[MlMt] newlines missing when viewing plain text messages

2014-10-09 Thread TC Meggs


I'm a MailMate trial user on Yosemite. Is there something I'm missing or 
is this a bug? All plain text messages are missing newlines in the 
viewer, so all messages with inline quoting et al just word-wrap into 
oblivion.


Thanks!

TC
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[MlMt] default account hidden preference sometimes ignored

2014-10-09 Thread Dr Gregory Jefferis

Hello,

I have 3 accounts configured with mailmate. I almost never want to send 
using the first account (call it account1.com), but unfortunately it was 
the first one I happened to set up and it is the default send account in 
some circumstances.


I tried using the hidden preference:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDefaultAccount -string 
'imap://usern...@account2.com'


but i still get some emails using account1.com. One example I have 
noticed is clicking on a mailto url.


Has anyone else noticed this? Found a workaround?

Many thanks,

Greg.

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[MlMt] fixed....Re: applying Rules to inbox

2014-10-09 Thread Jason Davies
...whereas if I right-click in the full list under 
the account, it works


(Ok, but confusing!)

On 9 Oct 2014, at 19:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 9 Oct 2014, at 18:13, Jason Davies wrote:

I am just starting to use Rules in Mailmate -- but I can't apply them 
to the inbox, it seems...which makes them a bit redundant for me as 
that's where I want them to go from automatically. Am I missing 
something obvious?...


Well, I'm not sure exactly what the problem is (based on the above). 
Redundant?


Have you enabled 2.0 experimental features in the General preferences 
pane?


If not, then do that and then double-click the Inbox to find the Rules 
pane.


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Re: [MlMt] applying Rules to inbox

2014-10-09 Thread Jason Davies
Sorry for the overly brief report -- I did think it was something 
deliberate because it's consistent for all my accounts.


With the 2.0 features enabled and working on submailboxes happily, if I 
right-click on the inbox of any account (of five)  'Edit Mailbox' is 
greyed out. Therefore I cannot create rules nor apply any...I'm running 
build 4451 (the latest, right now).




On 9 Oct 2014, at 19:14, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I am just starting to use Rules in Mailmate -- but I can't apply them 
to the inbox, it seems...which makes them a bit redundant for me as 
that's where I want them to go from automatically. Am I missing 
something obvious?...



Well, I'm not sure exactly what the problem is (based on the above). 
Redundant?


Have you enabled 2.0 experimental features in the General preferences 
pane?

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Re: [MlMt] applying Rules to inbox

2014-10-09 Thread Luca Allodi

On 9 Oct 2014, at 21:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


Do you think this can explain what you see?


Definitely.


Some kind of “dynamic” event type is needed, [..]


Wouldn't an "Apply rules for this Mailbox upon restart" checkbox do the 
trick?
To my understanding, all the checkbox would have to do is to trigger 
ApplyRules().


If the only problem it would solve is mine, though, as a workaround it 
would probably mainly add complexity to the interface and solve too 
little a problem.


On the other hand, if "time-based rules" are the only ones suffering 
from this, then maybe this workaround can simply be "hard-coded" for any 
"Date" rule.


Luca

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Re: [MlMt] applying Rules to inbox

2014-10-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 9 Oct 2014, at 20:50, Luca Allodi wrote:

I have a smart box, "Default Archive", that all it should do is to 
keep my inbox clean by archiving messages older than 10 days (where 
they get sorted and marked if I should have probably replied to them 
and still haven't.. I just love MailMate :-)) ).


Anyway, that rule never really worked for me 100%. Sometimes it does, 
sometimes I find tons of emails in the smartbox (that should be always 
empty).


The problem is probably the same problem which makes the smart mailbox 
necessary in the first place: MailMate only has the “add” event 
implemented, that is, a rule is only triggered when a message is added 
to a mailbox. This is why the rule cannot be added to the Inbox. The 
condition is fulfilled *after* messages arrive in the mailbox.


The separate smart mailbox partly solves this problem by making the 
messages arrive in the smart mailbox when the condition is fulfilled. 
This doesn't work however if the condition is fulfilled while MailMate 
is not running. More precisely:


* Quit MailMate
* A message becomes older than 10 days.
* Launch MailMate.

When launching MailMate then the message is already in the smart mailbox 
and it doesn't arrive to trigger the rule. Confused? :-)


Do you think this can explain what you see?

A solution to this problem would also make the smart mailbox 
unnecessary. Some kind of “dynamic” event type is needed, that is, a 
rule with conditions where MailMate always keeps track of the conditions 
and always applies the action(s). Implementation-wise this is not so 
hard although it is not quite clear what MailMate should do if the rule 
does not have the side-effect of making the message no longer match the 
condition after the action(s).


I guess the main point is that I'm aware of this problem.

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Re: [MlMt] applying Rules to inbox

2014-10-09 Thread Luca Allodi
While we are at it, I hijack this thread for an old problem of mine I 
have never got resolved.


I have a smart box, "Default Archive", that all it should do is to keep 
my inbox clean by archiving messages older than 10 days (where they get 
sorted and marked if I should have probably replied to them and still 
haven't.. I just love MailMate :-)) ).


Anyway, that rule never really worked for me 100%. Sometimes it does, 
sometimes I find tons of emails in the smartbox (that should be always 
empty).


Here's a screenshot I've just taken with the rules' window (today only 2 
in the smartbox):


![Two mails in default archive mailbox](http://i.imgur.com/orCPuxd.png)

Thanks,

Luca

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Re: [MlMt] Keybase integration

2014-10-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 9 Oct 2014, at 13:23, Giovanni Lanzani wrote:

Any chances of integrating Mailmate with 
[Keybase.io](https://keybase.io)?


At least I now know the existence of Keybase.io. I'll keep an eye on it, 
but I don't have any immediate plans to integrate it.


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Re: [MlMt] applying Rules to inbox

2014-10-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 9 Oct 2014, at 18:13, Jason Davies wrote:

I am just starting to use Rules in Mailmate -- but I can't apply them 
to the inbox, it seems...which makes them a bit redundant for me as 
that's where I want them to go from automatically. Am I missing 
something obvious?...


Well, I'm not sure exactly what the problem is (based on the above). 
Redundant?


Have you enabled 2.0 experimental features in the General preferences 
pane?


If not, then do that and then double-click the Inbox to find the Rules 
pane.


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[MlMt] applying Rules to inbox

2014-10-09 Thread Jason Davies
Sorry if I'm being really dense but numerous searches etc have not 
helped with this.


I am just starting to use Rules in Mailmate -- but I can't apply them to 
the inbox, it seems...which makes them a bit redundant for me as that's 
where I want them to go from automatically. Am I missing something 
obvious?...

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[MlMt] Keybase integration

2014-10-09 Thread Giovanni Lanzani
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Re: [MlMt] Cannot connect to iCloud mailbox

2014-10-09 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 8 Oct 2014, at 17:54, Kip DeGraaf wrote:


Sorry, should have mentioned that in the previous posting.

Build 4551 is what I was running.  I've grabbed 4555 this morning, 
made a new App-Specific Password, still unable to use iCloud mail.


...

If it would help, I'm happy to give you a copy of the connection log 
from Apple Mail for my iCloud account.


No, it won't help me. `AUTH=ATOKEN` appears to be completely 
undocumented and therefore not something I can use.


We can try taking MailMate out of the equation. Use Terminal to connect 
to the server like this:


openssl s_client -connect imap.mail.me.com:993

When it has connected then write the following with your login details:

0 LOGIN username password

I have no problems with my own account, but I do not have two-step 
verification enabled.


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