[MlMt] Image blocking

2014-10-29 Thread Werner Hintze
I have a problem with the option »image blocking«. There is another 
option »Unless messages are explicitly marked as not junk«. Does this 
mean that I have to mark all messages as »No junk« in order to see the 
images? Is it not enough to say once that messages from this address are 
not junk? Or is there another option I didn't find yet?


Thanks for helping me!

Werner
P.S.: What’s about MailMate 2.0 and it’s crowd founding action? Does 
anybody have some news?

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Re: [MlMt] Thread view in addition to correspondance view ?

2014-10-29 Thread Max Andersen
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com
 wrote:

 On 27 Oct 2014, at 19:08, Max Andersen wrote:

 Now this works pretty great *BUT* I can now see several mails where the
 thread-id does not
 actually work. Not sure why because the field References and Message-id
 definitely seem
 to be there.

 I would need an example to analyze that, that is, at least two messages
 (parent/child) clearly related but not threaded by MailMate.


Here is some scrambled data (replace company names to protect the innocents
:)

Msg 0:
Message-ID: 20140821201001.6025361.87397.47...@company2.org  ---
original mail
+ Message-Id: bdb28092-efac-431b-b0bb-9e876481d...@company1.com
  References: 20140821201001.6025361.87397.47...@company2.org
+ Message-ID: 459d7dea-4331-4ebe-9623-5952dbaf0...@company1.com
  In-Reply-To: 20140821201001.6025361.87397.47...@company2.org
  References: 20140821201001.6025361.87397.47...@company2.org
  + Message-Id: 5e95ebcf-d0e9-45f1-a93c-7cda28f65...@company1.com
References: 20140821201001.6025361.87397.47...@company2.org 
459d7dea-4331-4ebe-9623-5952dbaf0...@company1.com
In-Reply-To: 459d7dea-4331-4ebe-9623-5952dbaf0...@company1.com


Msg 0':
Message-ID: 544ca6c0.3030...@gmail.com   --- reply to original mail but
clicking Thread does not show the above tree and vice versa
References: 20140821201001.6025361.87397.47...@company2.org 
459d7dea-4331-4ebe-9623-5952dbaf0...@company1.com 
5e95ebcf-d0e9-45f1-a93c-7cda28f65...@company1.com 
c8f6cbec-e8ea-48f0-b72c-2af69797b...@company1.com 
92900075-e84e-45ee-b876-eacd8e4bb...@company1.com 
dd54b32c-f8af-41a2-a617-d26bd5201...@company1.com 
9a8ceea5-f9f7-4cdf-bd37-733dae755...@company1.com
In-Reply-To: 9a8ceea5-f9f7-4cdf-bd37-733dae755...@company1.com
+ Message-ID: ea4c20e5-1523-4f56-9c7e-c6edc0d6f...@company1.com
  In-Reply-To: 544ca6c0.3030...@gmail.com
  References: 20140821201001.6025361.87397.47...@company2.org 
459d7dea-4331-4ebe-9623-5952dbaf0...@company1.com 
5e95ebcf-d0e9-45f1-a93c-7cda28f65...@company1.com 
c8f6cbec-e8ea-48f0-b72c-2af69797b...@company1.com 
92900075-e84e-45ee-b876-eacd8e4bb...@company1.com 
dd54b32c-f8af-41a2-a617-d26bd5201...@company1.com 
9a8ceea5-f9f7-4cdf-bd37-733dae755...@company1.com 
544ca6c0.3030...@gmail.com


notice that Msg 0' have a reference to the root via references field.

 Is there a way to also make it show other mails with the same
 similar/subject (similar to when clicking the main subject text and
 mailmate show the related ones ?)

 Yes, that can also be done by the transformation string. Something like
 this I believe should work:

 transformation = $ALL_MESSAGES.filter(#thread-id = $mainOutline.#thread-id 
 or subject.body = $mainOutline.subject.body);


This is pretty damn awesome - now I dont have to wait for mailmate to show
mails from threads outside of the current search/folder ;)

Thanks!

/max

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Re: [MlMt] gmail Too Many simultaneous connections. (Failure)

2014-10-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Oct 2014, at 1:06, Dries Geeroms wrote:

They have for me but I'm now experiencing very long periods of being 
(offline). I need to check for mail manually as it doesn't seem to 
sync for hours at a time.


Hopefully I'll soon get around to review the last batch of connection 
logs. Sorry about the delay.


We just upgraded the router at work yesterday so maybe that'll help 
sorting things out. I'll send you more logs (off list) in a few days.


Thanks. It'll be interesting to see if this makes a difference.

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Re: [MlMt] feature request: Preview panel: adjust window

2014-10-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Oct 2014, at 1:23, Dries Geeroms wrote:

I'd love a [TextMate-like 
preference](http://glui.me/?i=7pkw8src8x4hqaq/2014-10-29_at_10.52_am.png/) 
to adjust the window size when displaying the Preview panel (I display 
it on the right).

That way the message source doesn't get resized.


I guess the same could be requested for the mailboxes outline. I'll give 
it some thought.


There also seems to be [a visual 
bug](http://glui.me/?i=bbcb2bysfv1fw2d/2014-10-29_at_11.17_am.png/) 
when toggling the preview Panel. Doesn't happen all the time and I 
haven't been able to consistently recreate it.


Let me know if you find a way to do it. I haven't seen it myself.

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Re: [MlMt] Image blocking

2014-10-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Oct 2014, at 10:41, Werner Hintze wrote:

I have a problem with the option »image blocking«. There is another 
option »Unless messages are explicitly marked as not junk«. Does 
this mean that I have to mark all messages as »No junk« in order to 
see the images?


No, it just means that “Not Junk” can be used to mark a specific 
message as trusted.


Is it not enough to say once that messages from this address are not 
junk?


No, it does not affect any other messages. There is no built-in way to 
whitelist addresses.



Or is there another option I didn't find yet?


No, it is possible to configure smart mailboxes to get something which 
behaves like whitelisting: 
http://blog.freron.com/2012/disabling-image-blocking-for-trusted-senders/


P.S.: What’s about MailMate 2.0 and it’s crowd founding action? 
Does anybody have some news?


You can find some general answers in the blog post for [version 
1.8](http://blog.freron.com/2014/mailmate-1-8-released/) which was 
released 2 weeks ago.


You can also enable fetching betas in the Software Update preferences 
pane, but currently that won't do much since I'm now mainly working on a 
separate 64 bit version of MailMate (memory and speed optimizations). If 
you are feeling adventurous then you can fetch it 
[here](http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_64bit.tbz). It 
was updated today and it appears to be stable for its currently small 
user base (~10 have downloaded it).


To the list: Those of you with large message stores are welcome to try 
out the 64 bit version and send me some time/memory comparisons with the 
current 32 bit version. (I'd like to switch to the 64 bit version for 
all users as soon as possible.)


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Re: [MlMt] Thread view in addition to correspondance view ?

2014-10-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Oct 2014, at 11:48, Max Andersen wrote:

I would need an example to analyze that, that is, at least two 
messages

(parent/child) clearly related but not threaded by MailMate.


Here is some scrambled data (replace company names to protect the 
innocents

:)

...

notice that Msg 0' have a reference to the root via references field.


Ok, currently MailMate only uses `References` if the `In-Reply-To` 
header is missing. I'm probably not going to do much to change that 
before I'm also able to offer some kind of “grouping” thread mode.


This is pretty damn awesome - now I dont have to wait for mailmate to 
show

mails from threads outside of the current search/folder ;)


Alternatively, you can also create a custom smart mailbox based on the 
Inbox which includes related messages.


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Re: [MlMt] Image blocking

2014-10-29 Thread Stephan van Maris
To the list: Those of you with large message stores are welcome to try 
out the 64 bit version and send me some time/memory comparisons with 
the current 32 bit version. (I'd like to switch to the 64 bit version 
for all users as soon as possible.)


It seems that the performance of the 64bit version is on par with that 
of the 32bit version for me. I've got three accounts configured with 
230k messages total.


The only issue I'm having is the occasional spinning beachball while 
editing a message in Markdown mode, so I'm guessing there's something 
complicated going on while updating the preview pane. 90% of the time 
the beachball disappears and I can continue editing, but sometimes 
MailMate crashes after a couple of seconds of beachballing.


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Re: [MlMt] Thread view in addition to correspondance view ?

2014-10-29 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 29 Oct 2014, at 17:15, Max Andersen wrote:

Okey. That would explain at lot of why threaded button rarely works 
for me

:)

Is there a way to add references search to my transformation view ?


I'm actually not sure. It might be possible to compare references with 
message-ids, but I'm guessing it might quite slow if it works. I don't 
have time to try it out right now.


I'm not sure I follow your alternative. Can you explain that a bit 
more

detailed ?


1. Select the Inbox.
2. Make sure no messages are selected.
3. Click the “Thread” button.
4. Save it as, e.g., “Inbox with Threads”.


...and is there a way to define the transformation search query the
threaded button do because I would like to change that to at least the 
one

that includes subject body search too.


Sorry, that is one of the few things in MailMate which is hardcoded.

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