Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 18 Nov 2014, at 22:24, Kai Großjohann wrote: FWIW, 5015 crashed for me on startup. It attempted to download 5017 but crashed before it got anything done. So I found 5017 and downloaded it manually, and now I'm a happy camper. Yes, r5017 appears to be relatively stable and if I didn't introduce new bugs then r5018 should be even more stable. I'll release that as a beta in a few minutes. (I haven't yet solved the performance problem reported by Max in another thread.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
FWIW, 5015 crashed for me on startup. It attempted to download 5017 but crashed before it got anything done. So I found 5017 and downloaded it manually, and now I'm a happy camper. Good job, Benny! Kai On 18 Nov 2014, at 10:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 18 Nov 2014, at 8:56, Max Andersen wrote: Downloaded it and it freezes. The main window never shows up. It does though show its counters both on icon and in main apple menubar. .ooh - its just veeery slow to startup. It finally popped up ;) I see in changelog it is stating faster startup fixes...is that because the 64bit is slower generally or should it be faster than the 32bit version ? For me startup time is about half of what it was for the 32 bit version (while also using less memory), but I've made a lot of changes which means there is great potential for various bugs. I'll write you off list to get more information about what makes it slow for you. The latest beta includes a few important bug fixes, but I don't think it can explain your slow startups (well, I'm not 100% sure about that): http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5017.tbz (right now it definitely does not start faster for me) I'm sure it will be eventually :-) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 18 Nov 2014, at 8:56, Max Andersen wrote: Downloaded it and it freezes. The main window never shows up. It does though show its counters both on icon and in main apple menubar. .ooh - its just veeery slow to startup. It finally popped up ;) I see in changelog it is stating faster startup fixes...is that because the 64bit is slower generally or should it be faster than the 32bit version ? For me startup time is about half of what it was for the 32 bit version (while also using less memory), but I've made a lot of changes which means there is great potential for various bugs. I'll write you off list to get more information about what makes it slow for you. The latest beta includes a few important bug fixes, but I don't think it can explain your slow startups (well, I'm not 100% sure about that): http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5017.tbz (right now it definitely does not start faster for me) I'm sure it will be eventually :-) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
Downloaded it and it freezes. The main window never shows up. It does though show its counters both on icon and in main apple menubar. .ooh - its just veeery slow to startup. It finally popped up ;) I see in changelog it is stating faster startup fixes...is that because the 64bit is slower generally or should it be faster than the 32bit version ? (right now it definitely does not start faster for me) On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:44, Max Andersen wrote: > > so I can say that I turned TLS off so it uses port 25 directly. >> >> and now things seem to work. (except its not encrypted anymore) >> > > I wouldn't have expected that to make a difference when you do not get any > output in the Activity Viewer. Nevertheless, here is the latest 64 bit > release with the changed SMTP handling: http://updates.mailmate-app. > com/archives/MailMate_r5015.tbz > > > -- > Benny > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > -- /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:44, Max Andersen wrote: so I can say that I turned TLS off so it uses port 25 directly. and now things seem to work. (except its not encrypted anymore) I wouldn't have expected that to make a difference when you do not get any output in the Activity Viewer. Nevertheless, here is the latest 64 bit release with the changed SMTP handling: http://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/MailMate_r5015.tbz -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:42, Andreas Kaiser wrote: After selecting "Watch for beta builds" in the update prefs you should be able to get r5013 (which is what I'm using). Pretty shure your version doesn't have the fix for that issue. This only works if you are already on the 64 bit builds. The first time requires a manual download. This was mainly done because the 64 bit builds were both slower and used a lot more memory. This is not the case for the next build though which I'll post here soon (it might be more buggy than the 32 bit build since it hasn't been tested by a lot of people). -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
so I can say that I turned TLS off so it uses port 25 directly. and now things seem to work. (except its not encrypted anymore) On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:36, Max Andersen wrote: > > btw. looks like google smtp works fine. >> >> its just our internal mail server that seem to have problems. >> >> Wild guess here - our servers been updated to disable SSL because of >> recent >> security issues. could it be mailmate client communication has issues with >> this ? >> > > In that case I think you would have failures reported by MailMate. > > I've recently (last few weeks) had a number of reports about SMTP servers > being reported as “unreachable” by a system API. I'm not sure exactly what > change and it may just be a coincidence. This triggers behavior like what > you are seeing now. I've changed the behavior of MailMate to handle this, > but it's only in the current 64 bit builds. I'll send you a link soon. (I > need to fix a couple of issues and upload it.) > > -- > Benny > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > -- /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:33, Andreas Kaiser wrote: On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:26, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:20, Andreas Kaiser wrote: MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending submission” being "not available" (greyed out). I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. Any pointers are highly appreciated. The most likely problem is that MailMate does not think that the SMTP server is reachable. Please send me the following files (off list): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Submisson.plist Note that when you change an SMTP server then it doesn't affect any scheduled drafts. You have to send a new message to test the new settings. I have the exact same issue ;/ Did you upgrade to the latest build yet? The issue should be fixed by now – at least it is for me. i'm on build 1.8 (4587) ...can't find any newer ? After selecting "Watch for beta builds" in the update prefs you should be able to get r5013 (which is what I'm using). Pretty shure your version doesn't have the fix for that issue. HTH, Andreas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:36, Max Andersen wrote: btw. looks like google smtp works fine. its just our internal mail server that seem to have problems. Wild guess here - our servers been updated to disable SSL because of recent security issues. could it be mailmate client communication has issues with this ? In that case I think you would have failures reported by MailMate. I've recently (last few weeks) had a number of reports about SMTP servers being reported as “unreachable” by a system API. I'm not sure exactly what change and it may just be a coincidence. This triggers behavior like what you are seeing now. I've changed the behavior of MailMate to handle this, but it's only in the current 64 bit builds. I'll send you a link soon. (I need to fix a couple of issues and upload it.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
also, activity monitor shows *Zero* activity for the smtp server in question. On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Max Andersen wrote: > btw. looks like google smtp works fine. > > its just our internal mail server that seem to have problems. > > Wild guess here - our servers been updated to disable SSL because of > recent security issues. could it be mailmate client communication has > issues with this ? > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen < > max.ander...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: >> >> On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:20, Andreas Kaiser wrote: >>> >>> MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending submission” being "not available" (greyed out). I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. Any pointers are highly appreciated. >>> >>> The most likely problem is that MailMate does not think that the SMTP >>> server is reachable. Please send me the following files (off list): >>> >>> ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist >>> ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Submisson.plist >>> >>> Note that when you change an SMTP server then it doesn't affect any >>> scheduled drafts. You have to send a new message to test the new settings. >>> >>> >> I have the exact same issue ;/ >> >> what mail do you want the above sent to ? >> >> /max >> http://about.me/maxandersen >> > > > > -- > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > -- /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:33, Andreas Kaiser wrote: On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:26, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:20, Andreas Kaiser wrote: MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending submission” being "not available" (greyed out). I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. Any pointers are highly appreciated. The most likely problem is that MailMate does not think that the SMTP server is reachable. Please send me the following files (off list): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Submisson.plist Note that when you change an SMTP server then it doesn't affect any scheduled drafts. You have to send a new message to test the new settings. I have the exact same issue ;/ Did you upgrade to the latest build yet? The issue should be fixed by now – at least it is for me. i'm on build 1.8 (4587) ...can't find any newer ? HTH, Andreas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
btw. looks like google smtp works fine. its just our internal mail server that seem to have problems. Wild guess here - our servers been updated to disable SSL because of recent security issues. could it be mailmate client communication has issues with this ? On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen < max.ander...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > > On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:20, Andreas Kaiser wrote: >> >> MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck >>> in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending >>> submission” being "not available" (greyed out). >>> >>> I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for >>> correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. >>> I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts >>> are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. >>> >>> Any pointers are highly appreciated. >>> >> >> The most likely problem is that MailMate does not think that the SMTP >> server is reachable. Please send me the following files (off list): >> >> ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist >> ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Submisson.plist >> >> Note that when you change an SMTP server then it doesn't affect any >> scheduled drafts. You have to send a new message to test the new settings. >> >> > I have the exact same issue ;/ > > what mail do you want the above sent to ? > > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > -- /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:26, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:20, Andreas Kaiser wrote: MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending submission” being "not available" (greyed out). I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. Any pointers are highly appreciated. The most likely problem is that MailMate does not think that the SMTP server is reachable. Please send me the following files (off list): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Submisson.plist Note that when you change an SMTP server then it doesn't affect any scheduled drafts. You have to send a new message to test the new settings. I have the exact same issue ;/ Did you upgrade to the latest build yet? The issue should be fixed by now – at least it is for me. HTH, Andreas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:20, Andreas Kaiser wrote: MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending submission” being "not available" (greyed out). I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. Any pointers are highly appreciated. The most likely problem is that MailMate does not think that the SMTP server is reachable. Please send me the following files (off list): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Submisson.plist Note that when you change an SMTP server then it doesn't affect any scheduled drafts. You have to send a new message to test the new settings. I have the exact same issue ;/ what mail do you want the above sent to ? /max http://about.me/maxandersen ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
On 3 Nov 2014, at 11:20, Andreas Kaiser wrote: MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending submission” being "not available" (greyed out). I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. Any pointers are highly appreciated. The most likely problem is that MailMate does not think that the SMTP server is reachable. Please send me the following files (off list): ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Sources.plist ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Submisson.plist Note that when you change an SMTP server then it doesn't affect any scheduled drafts. You have to send a new message to test the new settings. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] MailMate not sending emails at all
Hi all, MailMate recently completely stopped sending emails. All mails are stuck in the Drafts folders with “State” being "Pending submission" and "Pending submission” being "not available" (greyed out). I haven't changed any of my account settings and triple checked them for correctness. The activity window doesn't show any SMTP activity at all. I've also tried a different SMTP host with the same results. Both accounts are working fine in Mail.app with the exact same settings. Any pointers are highly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Andreas ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
