Re: [mapguide-users] MapGuide 2.X : Why Developers don't develop MapGuide to replace the local arbitrary SRS of DataSource by the SRS of the parent Map when we open a session ?

2013-02-02 Thread Rémy Gourrat
Don't worry Jackie, i understand without problem the SRS abitrary concept.

Thanks for your reply, i will send this week a conceptual schema to explain 
more clearly why i do that.

Remy



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[mapguide-users] MapGuide 2.X : Why Developers don't develop MapGuide to replace the local arbitrary SRS of DataSource by the SRS of the parent Map when we open a session ?

2013-02-01 Thread Rémy GOURRAT
Hi,

Developper's MapGuide can tell me why MapGuide don't replace SRS DataSource 
automatically, when I use a data source with local arbitrary SRS with a Map 
which have a standard SRS Spatial, by the SRS  of the Map ?

I have a lot of DataSource SHP, SQLite which contain Data with different SRS 
and we use it without SRS.

It's reducing considerably MapGuide Administrator task : 1 data source without 
SRS specified and 1 layer for all the Maps with different SRS

To display in the Map it's Ok but when I want make some buffer or execute 
geometry API, it's bad...

I understand that I need :
-  A data source with a standard or customize SRS and a map with a 
standard or customized SRS
Or
-  A data source with a local arbitrary SRS and a map with a local 
arbitrary SRS

But I ask the question again : why Developers don't develop MapGuide to replace 
the local arbitrary SRS of DataSource by the SRS of the parent Map when we open 
a session  ?

thanks for your answered

Rémy
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Re: [mapguide-users] MapGuide 2.X : Why Developers don't develop MapGuide to replace the local arbitrary SRS of DataSource by the SRS of the parent Map when we open a session ?

2013-02-01 Thread Jackie Ng
I hope you understand what an *arbitrary* SRS means. 

It's an SRS that has no real world context. The coordinates of your
geometries cannot be determined on the surface of planet earth.

Now for a Map to do its auto-magical re-projection of layers, the Map's
coordinate system and the layer's coordinate system must be of the same
type. It can't re-project a layer if it's data is based on arbitrary
coordinates. 

Think of what I already said: Geometries in arbitrary SRS coordinates cannot
be determined on the Earth's surface, so how could CS-Map possibly know what
real world context from which to transform said layer's coordinates to the
coordinate system of your Map?

Okay, suppose your Feature Source has an arbitrary SRS, but you know what
SRS the coordinates actually represent. Then this is where you can use the
Coordinate System override mechanism in the Feature Source to replace the
arbitrary SRS with a non-arbitrary one, allowing for the Map to re-project
such data if required. The Coordinate System override is a hint to MapGuide
as to how to interpret the coordinates from that Feature Source. It won't do
any validation. For example, if you override your SRS with WGS84, MapGuide
is not going to check that your coordinates must be within [-180, 180],
[-90, 90].

If you're intentionally using your *geospatial* data with a local SRS, I'd
really question why you must do this. Do you give SHP files to people
without the .prj file? That's effectively what you're doing.

- Jackie



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