Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Marketing Confcall wiki page update
Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote on 2011-06-13 19.32: I have modified the ConfCall wiki page[1] a bit by adding templates for the next months. These will help us track more easily our decisions from month to month. I'll commit to updating the templates after confcalls and filling in the blanks. thanks a lot, that is great work - much appreciated! Keep up the good work! ;) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me
Hello, Rajesh Sankar Iyer wrote on 2011-06-13 19.32: My name is Rajesh Sankar.R. I am a final year student of Chemical Engineering at Adhiyamaan College of Engineering, Hosur, India. I have just joined the marketing mailing list, and I would like to contribute actively. My college consists of more than 5000 students and staffs. Almost all of them are using MS Office as their default productivity suite. The main reason is that many are unaware of the capability of the opensource suites like LibreOffice. Previously I was using OpenOffice.org and suggested to many of my friends and classmates. Some of them did shift to OpenOffice.org. Now I would like to take up the job of promoting LibreOffice in my college as much as I can. I would like to join hands with the team and deliver as much as I can. thank you very much for your introduction, and welcome to the community - it is good to have you with us! This is the main marketing mailing list, so you have arrived at the right place. :-) Just lurk around for a few days to see how things are going and what we do, and soon you will feel comfortable and home. Should you have time, I'd also like to invite you to the marketing conference call on June 22nd: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls Again, welcome, great to have you on the show! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] French Ministries will migrate to LibreOffice
Hi, So you have to read French to understand it. This is not a PR (they don't write PR), and it's a small, magical sentence at the bottom of the page: basically the french ministerial coordination group for Open productivity suites now recommends to switch away from MS Office and OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualisation_interministérielle_pour_une_bureautique_ouverte Best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] French Ministries will migrate to LibreOffice
Hi :) Please feel free to add it to the French page (or even the English page) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_In_The_Press/fr Regards from Tom :) From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 9:32:22 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] French Ministries will migrate to LibreOffice Hi, So you have to read French to understand it. This is not a PR (they don't write PR), and it's a small, magical sentence at the bottom of the page: basically the french ministerial coordination group for Open productivity suites now recommends to switch away from MS Office and OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualisation_interministérielle_pour_une_bureautique_ouverte Best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] French Ministries will migrate to LibreOffice
Hello Italo, 2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com On 6/14/11 10:32 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: So you have to read French to understand it. This is not a PR (they don't write PR), and it's a small, magical sentence at the bottom of the page: basically the french ministerial coordination group for Open productivity suites now recommends to switch away from MS Office and OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualisation_interministérielle_pour_une_bureautique_ouverte Hi Charles, do you think we can leverage their statement? I would like to blog about it (and we shouldn't probably ask for an approval for a post, unless you deem it necessary), and then disseminate the text through out @announce mailing list (I suspect that we need to get their approval for this). The statement is very important for us, because is the first official corporate endorsement. I think we ought at least to tweet about it and I'll try to speak to french journalists (here the news will be BIG). We can blog as well but it does not have to look as if it's a victory or an announcement made with TDF. I'm thus unsure what TDF could do aside tweeting or talking to journalists about it... best, Charles. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me
Hi Rajesk Sankar, Welcome to LibreOffice community, feel at home. Clóvis On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Rajesh Sankar Iyer rajesh301...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Sirs, My name is Rajesh Sankar.R. I am a final year student of Chemical Engineering at Adhiyamaan College of Engineering, Hosur, India. I have just joined the marketing mailing list, and I would like to contribute actively. My college consists of more than 5000 students and staffs. Almost all of them are using MS Office as their default productivity suite. The main reason is that many are unaware of the capability of the opensource suites like LibreOffice. Previously I was using OpenOffice.org and suggested to many of my friends and classmates. Some of them did shift to OpenOffice.org. Now I would like to take up the job of promoting LibreOffice in my college as much as I can. I would like to join hands with the team and deliver as much as I can. Thanking You, Rajesh Sankar.R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Clóvis Tristão Net Admin Phone: 55 (19) 3296-4057 Mobile: 55 (19) 9117-3116 MSN: clovis_trista...@hotmail.com Skype: tclovis GTalk: tclo...@gmail.com Facebook: clovis.tristao Twitter: @tclovis Identi.ca: tclovis ---;~) Be Cool, use GNU/Linux BrOffice.org -- http://broffice.org/ LibreOffice.org -- http://libreoffice.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me
Hey Tom, I need an information about the DVD idea. I am the Vice-President of my a club in my college. We organize a lot of programs where we bring students from all over the state together for sharing their ideas on their field. I would like to know if I can distribute CD's containing installation file of LibreOffice along with the user guide? If yes, then can I charge them the CD cost alone? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Yes, welcome in. Mostly people like to post at the bottom of threads which might take a while to get used to. There are quite a few plans here to produce localised Dvds of LibreOffice to distribute at conferences and such-like. Some people even try to sell them in order to raise funds to make that a more sustainable venture and/or to give a percentage back to TDF. There might be some good ideas for what to include on a Dvd. Good luck and welcome in Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 8:13:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me Hello, Rajesh Sankar Iyer wrote on 2011-06-13 19.32: My name is Rajesh Sankar.R. I am a final year student of Chemical Engineering at Adhiyamaan College of Engineering, Hosur, India. I have just joined the marketing mailing list, and I would like to contribute actively. My college consists of more than 5000 students and staffs. Almost all of them are using MS Office as their default productivity suite. The main reason is that many are unaware of the capability of the opensource suites like LibreOffice. Previously I was using OpenOffice.org and suggested to many of my friends and classmates. Some of them did shift to OpenOffice.org. Now I would like to take up the job of promoting LibreOffice in my college as much as I can. I would like to join hands with the team and deliver as much as I can. thank you very much for your introduction, and welcome to the community - it is good to have you with us! This is the main marketing mailing list, so you have arrived at the right place. :-) Just lurk around for a few days to see how things are going and what we do, and soon you will feel comfortable and home. Should you have time, I'd also like to invite you to the marketing conference call on June 22nd: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls Again, welcome, great to have you on the show! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Rajesh Sankar.R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me
Hi Florian, Thanks a lot. I am receiving great support. I should get to know what is going on here very soon, and I will start contributing. Rajesh Sankar.R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me
Hi David, You can call me Raj. With a friendly atmosphere like this I am already feeling comfortable here. I hope that it will take a little bit of time for me to understand my full responsibilities completely. But i will keep up with the team and do my best. -- Rajesh Sankar.R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Magazine LibreOffice International.
Hi. I was thinking if we organize an Magazine on LibreOffice, with members of all communities the world? Good week. -- Klaibson Ribeiro Tel: (48) 9625-8273 www.creativesolucoes.com.br -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] French Ministries will migrate to LibreOffice
Hi Charles, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-14 10.32: So you have to read French to understand it. This is not a PR (they don't write PR), and it's a small, magical sentence at the bottom of the page: basically the french ministerial coordination group for Open productivity suites now recommends to switch away from MS Office and OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualisation_interministérielle_pour_une_bureautique_ouverte excellent news! I've just tweeted it :) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me
Hi :) LibreOffice is released under copy-left licences a bit like the GPL, specifically the MPL and LGPL licences. So, yes you can charge a reasonable amount for the Cds, more than the cost of the cd alone. Generally, people keep the price as low as possible which means they can't afford to give special discounts when they need to and it also restricts how much they can build-up against the day when they need to replace hardware such as Cd/Dvd-burners. Err, i found the German one which was very advanced a long time ago. http://de.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-box-dvd/ There is a wiki page for the American one http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Americas_LibreOffice_DVD But there are no language codes along the top to navigate to projects for other languages. I'm not sure about how all this is going but other people might be more helpful later. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Rajesh Sankar Iyer rajesh301...@gmail.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 15:54:41 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me Hey Tom, I need an information about the DVD idea. I am the Vice-President of my a club in my college. We organize a lot of programs where we bring students from all over the state together for sharing their ideas on their field. I would like to know if I can distribute CD's containing installation file of LibreOffice along with the user guide? If yes, then can I charge them the CD cost alone? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Yes, welcome in. Mostly people like to post at the bottom of threads which might take a while to get used to. There are quite a few plans here to produce localised Dvds of LibreOffice to distribute at conferences and such-like. Some people even try to sell them in order to raise funds to make that a more sustainable venture and/or to give a percentage back to TDF. There might be some good ideas for what to include on a Dvd. Good luck and welcome in Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 8:13:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me Hello, Rajesh Sankar Iyer wrote on 2011-06-13 19.32: My name is Rajesh Sankar.R. I am a final year student of Chemical Engineering at Adhiyamaan College of Engineering, Hosur, India. I have just joined the marketing mailing list, and I would like to contribute actively. My college consists of more than 5000 students and staffs. Almost all of them are using MS Office as their default productivity suite. The main reason is that many are unaware of the capability of the opensource suites like LibreOffice. Previously I was using OpenOffice.org and suggested to many of my friends and classmates. Some of them did shift to OpenOffice.org. Now I would like to take up the job of promoting LibreOffice in my college as much as I can. I would like to join hands with the team and deliver as much as I can. thank you very much for your introduction, and welcome to the community - it is good to have you with us! This is the main marketing mailing list, so you have arrived at the right place. :-) Just lurk around for a few days to see how things are going and what we do, and soon you will feel comfortable and home. Should you have time, I'd also like to invite you to the marketing conference call on June 22nd: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls Again, welcome, great to have you on the show! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Rajesh Sankar.R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more:
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me
You might want to look at what the North American Community DVD Project is working on. We took the idea that was started by the German group and modified it for the North American region. Right now we have English-only, Spanish-only [alpha testing], with French-only being worked on offline. We have our primary Windows/Linux/MacOSX DVD plus a Windows-only DVD. This is the link to the English 3.3.2 DVD testing pages http://libreoffice-na.us/English/index.html This is the link to the main portal page where you can look at what it being worked on that is being tested online. http://libreoffice-na.us/ We have the 3.3.2 install version of our DVD[s], and working on a 3.4.x DVD as well. We have the Install files, Documentation, Extensions and Dictionaries, Templates, Artwork and Galleries, plus some extra software packages. This may give you an idea of what can be done for a DVD. If you want to use the same format as we do, which is based off the original DVD style from the Germans, we can send you archives of the needed files and folders for the CSS and images. You might want to look at the dictionary list we have. The large list, below the small one, has as many dictionaries I could find. Since there are many languages and dialects in India, I hope there are a few in this list that would be helpful for the students of your college. As far as I have been told, or read, there are ways to create simple dictionaries from word lists. So if you need a dictionary for a language/dialect, all you need to start is a large enough word list. There should be enough documentation online, somewhere, to give you the information to go from that point. http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict Let me/us know what you think. Tim Lungstrom webmaster, and lead DVD editor for the North American Community DVD Project dedicated to Canadian, US American, Mexican, Latin American users [north to south]. On 06/14/2011 10:54 AM, Rajesh Sankar Iyer wrote: Hey Tom, I need an information about the DVD idea. I am the Vice-President of my a club in my college. We organize a lot of programs where we bring students from all over the state together for sharing their ideas on their field. I would like to know if I can distribute CD's containing installation file of LibreOffice along with the user guide? If yes, then can I charge them the CD cost alone? On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Yes, welcome in. Mostly people like to post at the bottom of threads which might take a while to get used to. There are quite a few plans here to produce localised Dvds of LibreOffice to distribute at conferences and such-like. Some people even try to sell them in order to raise funds to make that a more sustainable venture and/or to give a percentage back to TDF. There might be some good ideas for what to include on a Dvd. Good luck and welcome in Regards from Tom :) From: Florian Effenbergerflo...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 8:13:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Introduction about me Hello, Rajesh Sankar Iyer wrote on 2011-06-13 19.32: My name is Rajesh Sankar.R. I am a final year student of Chemical Engineering at Adhiyamaan College of Engineering, Hosur, India. I have just joined the marketing mailing list, and I would like to contribute actively. My college consists of more than 5000 students and staffs. Almost all of them are using MS Office as their default productivity suite. The main reason is that many are unaware of the capability of the opensource suites like LibreOffice. Previously I was using OpenOffice.org and suggested to many of my friends and classmates. Some of them did shift to OpenOffice.org. Now I would like to take up the job of promoting LibreOffice in my college as much as I can. I would like to join hands with the team and deliver as much as I can. thank you very much for your introduction, and welcome to the community - it is good to have you with us! This is the main marketing mailing list, so you have arrived at the right place. :-) Just lurk around for a few days to see how things are going and what we do, and soon you will feel comfortable and home. Should you have time, I'd also like to invite you to the marketing conference call on June 22nd: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls Again, welcome, great to have you on the show! Florian -- Florian Effenbergerflo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
What? Oh my God! What did I miss? Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive message. Rgs, Luiz Oliveira 2011/6/14 Klaibson Ribeiro klaib...@gmail.com Hi. I was thinking if we organize an Magazine on LibreOffice, with members of all communities the world? Good week. -- Klaibson Ribeiro Tel: (48) 9625-8273 www.creativesolucoes.com.br -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive message. I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see any unspoken intentions behind it. In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive attitude vs new proposals. Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your message is clearly hiding something. Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
I think that Luiz, like me, don't understand why here in Brazil we need an international magazine if we already have one. Regards, Renata Marques 2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive message. I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see any unspoken intentions behind it. In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive attitude vs new proposals. Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your message is clearly hiding something. Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
On 6/15/11 12:20 AM, Renata Marques wrote: I think that Luiz, like me, don't understand why here in Brazil we need an international magazine if we already have one. If it is international, then it covers more than the Brazilian one, or might have a different angle. I do not understand, in this case, why one is better than two. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com On 6/15/11 12:20 AM, Renata Marques wrote: I think that Luiz, like me, don't understand why here in Brazil we need an international magazine if we already have one. If it is international, then it covers more than the Brazilian one, or might have a different angle. I do not understand, in this case, why one is better than two. *It isn't. But, as you said: a global magazine is a difficult project. Many hands are needed to do that and, we don't have hands enough for a local project, so we could wonder who will help that guy in that difficult project. * * * *Maybe it could be more helpfull consolidating brazilian local magazine and later begin to think about higher flights ;-)* * * *Cheers.* -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
I'll try to explain. Once again we are faced with an issue which is not applicable to the TDF and marketing list. This a internal question. Although I do not believe that TDF is so alienated. Did not take the death of BrOffice.org. That still leaves the death of the BrOffice magazine and any semblance of this ill-fated brand. I did not believe it would come back, but came back! I end my participation here this theme because I believe the list does not deserve this kind of discussion. Brazil, show your face .. Rgds, Luiz Oliveira 2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive message. I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see any unspoken intentions behind it. In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive attitude vs new proposals. Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your message is clearly hiding something. Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
Hi :) There is a lot of extreme emotion about this area. BrOffice seems to have been excellent for many years, gained a good reputation, good people and did great work. Inevitably any large community will have misunderstandings and different people heading in different directions but all believing they are doing the best for the whole community. Sometimes people are too enthusiastic and haven't noticed what already exists or how their ideas might already be being implemented. I think it's best to guide people into what is already going on so that they can channel their enthusiasm in a positive direction. The post that sparked this controversy was clearly not written in the person native language so the misunderstanding should be easier to clarify on Brazilian lists. Most of the good stuff about BrOffice seems to have merged into the wider community here at TDF in the LibreOffice community. It has enriched the wider community considerably. Most of the good people are here now, and the structures, websites, the passion and so on. It does still retain a unique identity even if the name has changed. It's influencing the wider community too now :) Regards from Tom :) From: luizh...@gmail.com luizh...@gmail.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 0:53:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International. I'll try to explain. Once again we are faced with an issue which is not applicable to the TDF and marketing list. This a internal question. Although I do not believe that TDF is so alienated. Did not take the death of BrOffice.org. That still leaves the death of the BrOffice magazine and any semblance of this ill-fated brand. I did not believe it would come back, but came back! I end my participation here this theme because I believe the list does not deserve this kind of discussion. Brazil, show your face .. Rgds, Luiz Oliveira 2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive message. I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see any unspoken intentions behind it. In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive attitude vs new proposals. Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your message is clearly hiding something. Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
Thanks Tom, for your lucid words. To understand the whole issue about BrOffice gate need much more than the arrogance of some leaders. Regards, Luiz Oliveira 2011/6/14 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) There is a lot of extreme emotion about this area. BrOffice seems to have been excellent for many years, gained a good reputation, good people and did great work. Inevitably any large community will have misunderstandings and different people heading in different directions but all believing they are doing the best for the whole community. Sometimes people are too enthusiastic and haven't noticed what already exists or how their ideas might already be being implemented. I think it's best to guide people into what is already going on so that they can channel their enthusiasm in a positive direction. The post that sparked this controversy was clearly not written in the person native language so the misunderstanding should be easier to clarify on Brazilian lists. Most of the good stuff about BrOffice seems to have merged into the wider community here at TDF in the LibreOffice community. It has enriched the wider community considerably. Most of the good people are here now, and the structures, websites, the passion and so on. It does still retain a unique identity even if the name has changed. It's influencing the wider community too now :) Regards from Tom :) From: luizh...@gmail.com luizh...@gmail.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 0:53:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International. I'll try to explain. Once again we are faced with an issue which is not applicable to the TDF and marketing list. This a internal question. Although I do not believe that TDF is so alienated. Did not take the death of BrOffice.org. That still leaves the death of the BrOffice magazine and any semblance of this ill-fated brand. I did not believe it would come back, but came back! I end my participation here this theme because I believe the list does not deserve this kind of discussion. Brazil, show your face .. Rgds, Luiz Oliveira 2011/6/14 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive message. I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see any unspoken intentions behind it. In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive attitude vs new proposals. Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your message is clearly hiding something. Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
The only problem I had with the BrOffice online magazine was there was no English Translation. Maybe if the idea of an International LibreOffice online magazine was in several of the common languages, like English, French, German, Spanish, etc., besides Brazil's Portuguese THEN it would be more International than what BrOffice's publication was. I would love to see a publication, in many languages, that showcased LibreOffice world wide. Have news about what countries and multinational companies are moving away from MSO and towards LibreOffice. Maybe with such a publication, in many languages, some organizations, governments, etc., etc., would look at LibreOffice as a more serious player in the office suite market, let alone the Open Source's office suite market. On 06/14/2011 08:42 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Tom, for your lucid words. To understand the whole issue about BrOffice gate need much more than the arrogance of some leaders. Regards, Luiz Oliveira 2011/6/14 Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) There is a lot of extreme emotion about this area. BrOffice seems to have been excellent for many years, gained a good reputation, good people and did great work. Inevitably any large community will have misunderstandings and different people heading in different directions but all believing they are doing the best for the whole community. Sometimes people are too enthusiastic and haven't noticed what already exists or how their ideas might already be being implemented. I think it's best to guide people into what is already going on so that they can channel their enthusiasm in a positive direction. The post that sparked this controversy was clearly not written in the person native language so the misunderstanding should be easier to clarify on Brazilian lists. Most of the good stuff about BrOffice seems to have merged into the wider community here at TDF in the LibreOffice community. It has enriched the wider community considerably. Most of the good people are here now, and the structures, websites, the passion and so on. It does still retain a unique identity even if the name has changed. It's influencing the wider community too now :) Regards from Tom :) From: luizh...@gmail.comluizh...@gmail.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 15 June, 2011 0:53:11 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International. I'll try to explain. Once again we are faced with an issue which is not applicable to the TDF and marketing list. This a internal question. Although I do not believe that TDF is so alienated. Did not take the death of BrOffice.org. That still leaves the death of the BrOffice magazine and any semblance of this ill-fated brand. I did not believe it would come back, but came back! I end my participation here this theme because I believe the list does not deserve this kind of discussion. Brazil, show your face .. Rgds, Luiz Oliveira 2011/6/14 Italo Vignoliitalo.vign...@gmail.com On 6/14/11 11:31 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Something tells me there are more unspoken intentions behind this naive message. I simply consider a global magazine a difficult project, but I cannot see any unspoken intentions behind it. In my opinion, a free software project should have a generally positive attitude vs new proposals. Maybe, you should clarify which are your unspoken intentions, as your message is clearly hiding something. Best regards. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Magazine LibreOffice International.
2011/6/14 webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com The only problem I had with the BrOffice online magazine was there was no English Translation. Maybe if the idea of an International LibreOffice online magazine was in several of the common languages, like English, French, German, Spanish, etc., besides Brazil's Portuguese THEN it would be more International than what BrOffice's publication was. Some time ago this was discussed in this list. Many people suggested that a multilanguage magazine would be difficult and could not include relevant contents to all countries, ethinics and so on. My personal point of view is: LibreOffice could publish a generic magazine, in english, with content from all over the world. People from specific locations could use the example to produce local magazines. I would love to see a publication, in many languages, that showcased LibreOffice world wide. Have news about what countries and multinational companies are moving away from MSO and towards LibreOffice. Here in Brazil, we thought about an international magazine. We have made a little try when we published an English version for OO International Meeting in 2010. Some of you may have seen it. Maybe with such a publication, in many languages, some organizations, governments, etc., etc., would look at LibreOffice as a more serious player in the office suite market, let alone the Open Source's office suite market. I still have the dream to make it happen. Maybe Klaibson and some other people, including those from BrOffice Magazine (sorry, but we couldn't change its name yet), can join forces and try to make it come true. maybe some people from other countries could help too ;-) Cheers -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
