Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
Hi Italo, I agree that we need proof stories like this. The story is public available and there is no problem if we use it active. If you need me to clarify details from the Danish article please ask. I work on the case every day, so if you need press contacts etc. I can arrange that. But please have in mind that this is a very large project: We have prepared it for more than a year and we will not finish it before in a year or so. The story will not run away but grow even better over time ;-) I will suggest a defensive approach like mention the reference as an example when we release 3.4.3 (rock solid version). The roll-out/press release *was* coordinated with our release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 witch was the reason that the enterprise ready label was important to me :-) Right now I'm waiting for a response from the competitor(s). I'm in no hurry. Cheers, Leif 2011/8/10 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Hi Leif, can we use this news story for a press release? Or a success story? We need to show corporate adoption to attract more users. Ciao, Italo Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On 09/ago/2011, at 14:42, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Just for your information... Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. Danish: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/ English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=daie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=datl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F118467%2F Just wanted everyone to know :-) Cheers, Leif Lodahl The (very prowd) Danish Team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
Hi :) It would be great if a link to an article could be added to this page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_In_The_Press I can tidy up the formatting afterwards if someone can post the link there. Regards from Tom :) From: Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 10:07:23 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre Hi Italo, I agree that we need proof stories like this. The story is public available and there is no problem if we use it active. If you need me to clarify details from the Danish article please ask. I work on the case every day, so if you need press contacts etc. I can arrange that. But please have in mind that this is a very large project: We have prepared it for more than a year and we will not finish it before in a year or so. The story will not run away but grow even better over time ;-) I will suggest a defensive approach like mention the reference as an example when we release 3.4.3 (rock solid version). The roll-out/press release *was* coordinated with our release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 witch was the reason that the enterprise ready label was important to me :-) Right now I'm waiting for a response from the competitor(s). I'm in no hurry. Cheers, Leif 2011/8/10 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com Hi Leif, can we use this news story for a press release? Or a success story? We need to show corporate adoption to attract more users. Ciao, Italo Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On 09/ago/2011, at 14:42, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Just for your information... Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. Danish: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/ English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=daie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=datl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F118467%2F F Just wanted everyone to know :-) Cheers, Leif Lodahl The (very prowd) Danish Team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Espírito Livre Magazine n. 28 released!
Hello João, João Fernando wrote on 2011-08-08 00:08: Sorry for my English. I still have much to learn... So... Espírito Livre Magazine n. 28 released! This issue is about*LibreOffice*. It has interviews with Sophie Gautier and the Italo Vignoli. I would also like to thank immensely Eliane Domingos, Klaibson Ribeiro, Olivier Hallot and David Jourdain. Without them this issue would not be born. Sophie and Italo, my thanks too. This edition have 132 pages. 32 pages are about LibreOffice. thank you for sharing, and thanks a lot for all your work on this! Hope we have more magazines in various languages in the future. ;-) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
Hi Leif, Leif Lodahl wrote on 2011-08-09 14:42: Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. these are excellent news, congratulations, and thanks a lot for all your hard work! I support Italos idea - if we can have some statement for a press release or media information, that could have a great impact! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:35 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: Hi Leif, can we use this news story for a press release? Or a success story? We need to show corporate adoption to attract more users. Is it? Is this private industry or government owned hospitals? thanks //drew Ciao, Italo Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On 09/ago/2011, at 14:42, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Just for your information... Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. Danish: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/ English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=daie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=datl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F118467%2F Just wanted everyone to know :-) Cheers, Leif Lodahl The (very prowd) Danish Team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
Congrats Leif! I think Drew's question has some importancefor North America but whatever the answer to it we ought to be able to use it in a PR. Tom, feel free to add the reference to the wiki :-) Best, Charles. Le 10 août 2011 14:06, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit : On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:35 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: Hi Leif, can we use this news story for a press release? Or a success story? We need to show corporate adoption to attract more users. Is it? Is this private industry or government owned hospitals? thanks //drew Ciao, Italo Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On 09/ago/2011, at 14:42, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Just for your information... Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. Danish: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/ English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=daie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=datl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F118467%2F Just wanted everyone to know :-) Cheers, Leif Lodahl The (very prowd) Danish Team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:20 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Congrats Leif! I think Drew's question has some importancefor North America but whatever the answer to it we ought to be able to use it in a PR. Tom, feel free to add the reference to the wiki :-) Hi Charles Yes, I'm just pointing out that there are differences in market segments. The 'win' is great on it's own. I also noted the mention of JCaps and Apache Camel in the article - so one is also informed that Java is NOT a bad word with the IT crew. Finally - hopefully Leif knows the contractor that landed this sale (let's call things what they are) and this contractor is an active member of what goes on here - that is the idea for moving forward, yes? Thanks, Drew Best, Charles. Le 10 août 2011 14:06, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit : On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:35 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: Hi Leif, can we use this news story for a press release? Or a success story? We need to show corporate adoption to attract more users. Is it? Is this private industry or government owned hospitals? thanks //drew Ciao, Italo Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On 09/ago/2011, at 14:42, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Just for your information... Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. Danish: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/ English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=daie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=datl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F118467%2F Just wanted everyone to know :-) Cheers, Leif Lodahl The (very prowd) Danish Team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
2011/8/10 drew d...@baseanswers.com On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:35 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: Hi Leif, can we use this news story for a press release? Or a success story? We need to show corporate adoption to attract more users. Is it? Is this private industry or government owned hospitals? Sorry, that was my pooor English skills. It's a public organization managing all public hospitals in the capital region. Cheers, Leif thanks //drew Ciao, Italo Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On 09/ago/2011, at 14:42, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Just for your information... Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. Danish: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/ English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=daie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=datl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F118467%2F Just wanted everyone to know :-) Cheers, Leif Lodahl The (very prowd) Danish Team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
2011/8/10 drew d...@baseanswers.com On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:20 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Congrats Leif! I think Drew's question has some importancefor North America but whatever the answer to it we ought to be able to use it in a PR. Tom, feel free to add the reference to the wiki :-) Hi Charles Yes, I'm just pointing out that there are differences in market segments. The 'win' is great on it's own. So true so true, but the most important thing to me is that its what we could call professional users in a huge organization. I also noted the mention of JCaps and Apache Camel in the article - so one is also informed that Java is NOT a bad word with the IT crew. Finally - hopefully Leif knows the contractor that landed this sale (let's call things what they are) and this contractor is an active member of what goes on here - that is the idea for moving forward, yes? I did (my company Magenta), and I have a few more interesting things just around the corner :-) Thanks, Drew Cheers again, Leif -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
Absolutely true Drew, my point was that if these are private hospitals then it may add more clout in the US. Best, Charles. Le 10 août 2011 14:39, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit : On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:20 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Congrats Leif! I think Drew's question has some importancefor North America but whatever the answer to it we ought to be able to use it in a PR. Tom, feel free to add the reference to the wiki :-) Hi Charles Yes, I'm just pointing out that there are differences in market segments. The 'win' is great on it's own. I also noted the mention of JCaps and Apache Camel in the article - so one is also informed that Java is NOT a bad word with the IT crew. Finally - hopefully Leif knows the contractor that landed this sale (let's call things what they are) and this contractor is an active member of what goes on here - that is the idea for moving forward, yes? Thanks, Drew Best, Charles. Le 10 août 2011 14:06, drew d...@baseanswers.com a écrit : On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 07:35 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote: Hi Leif, can we use this news story for a press release? Or a success story? We need to show corporate adoption to attract more users. Is it? Is this private industry or government owned hospitals? thanks //drew Ciao, Italo Italo Vignoli Mobile +39.348.5653829 Email italo.vign...@gmail.com On 09/ago/2011, at 14:42, Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com wrote: Just for your information... Al hospitals in the capital region in Denmark (Copenhagen region) is dropping MS Office and will shift to LibreOffice. Its 25.000 users! First year cost savings are estiamted 40.000.000 DKK ~ 5.3 million EUR. Danish: http://www.computerworld.dk/art/118467/ English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=nprev=_thl=daie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=datl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerworld.dk%2Fart%2F118467%2F Just wanted everyone to know :-) Cheers, Leif Lodahl The (very prowd) Danish Team -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
Hi :) I might add the link to the In the Press page if i get time later but i would be a lot happier if people just added stuff to the page whenever they spot something worth attention. Grr, today i was just 5mins short of getting 1 person to try Ubuntu and LibreOffice but they preferred to faff around with usb-sticks rather than admit that Windows is hopeless at finding new network connections. Preferring 2 hours work to 10mins is ridiculous especially when it means missing out on greater efficiencies later on. Such is life tho. At least i'm not in London and the rioting there. On the main street here a huge amount of people showed up yday with flowers to show respect for one of the local community leaders. The 25,000 in the article is a huge scoop :)) Regards from Tom :) From: Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 15:03:15 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre 2011/8/10 drew d...@baseanswers.com On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:20 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Congrats Leif! I think Drew's question has some importancefor North America but whatever the answer to it we ought to be able to use it in a PR. Tom, feel free to add the reference to the wiki :-) Hi Charles Yes, I'm just pointing out that there are differences in market segments. The 'win' is great on it's own. So true so true, but the most important thing to me is that its what we could call professional users in a huge organization. I also noted the mention of JCaps and Apache Camel in the article - so one is also informed that Java is NOT a bad word with the IT crew. Finally - hopefully Leif knows the contractor that landed this sale (let's call things what they are) and this contractor is an active member of what goes on here - that is the idea for moving forward, yes? I did (my company Magenta), and I have a few more interesting things just around the corner :-) Thanks, Drew Cheers again, Leif -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] All hospitals in capital region goes Libre
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 16:03 +0200, Leif Lodahl wrote: 2011/8/10 drew d...@baseanswers.com On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 14:20 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Congrats Leif! I think Drew's question has some importancefor North America but whatever the answer to it we ought to be able to use it in a PR. Tom, feel free to add the reference to the wiki :-) Hi Charles Yes, I'm just pointing out that there are differences in market segments. The 'win' is great on it's own. So true so true, but the most important thing to me is that its what we could call professional users in a huge organization. Agreed. snip Finally - hopefully Leif knows the contractor that landed this sale (let's call things what they are) and this contractor is an active member of what goes on here - that is the idea for moving forward, yes? I did (my company Magenta), and I have a few more interesting things just around the corner :-) Excellent! I was asking mostly, not because of any difference between sales to institutions in say, the EU vs US, but more the thought of a difference between marketing and sales, and addressing both functions is required to expand, IMO. While marketing has a macro view of markets sales always gets down to the nitty gritty details of the specific installation. If one growth plan for TDF is using a vendor certification mechanism as the engine, or large part of the engine, then it seems to me important to ensure it involves some, likely small, component on helping new vendors not only with technical aspects of the software but with some transfer of 'best practices', tips, or advice from those with sales experience. Anyway - traveling rather far afield for this email thread - Great news Leif, //drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] How about regional contacts as well in addition to mailing list based ones
Hi All, Sorry for starting a new thread for our search of Volunteers for being Marketing Contacts.. I would like to propose that for languages like English, Spanish which have huge catchment areas, we can have regional contacts as well.. For example - English - North America, Europe, South Asia, Australia Spanish - Europe, South America We can also have some more regional contacts if we have enough volunteers. What do you guys feel about language + region approach in place of only language based one ? Just my 2 cents ... :) Thank You Best Regards Varun Mittal https://www.google.com/profiles/varunmittal87 Moderator - Global Mailing Lists Libre Office Blog http://www.varunmittal.info/ Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/mittal.varun LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/varunmittal87 Twitterhttp://twitter.com/varunmittal19 Uncertainty is the only Certainty of LIFE -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] How about regional contacts as well in addition to mailing list based ones
Hi. An volunteer. I living in the Brazil, speak portuguese and english. Good week. On 10 August 2011 15:07, Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Sorry for starting a new thread for our search of Volunteers for being Marketing Contacts.. I would like to propose that for languages like English, Spanish which have huge catchment areas, we can have regional contacts as well.. For example - English - North America, Europe, South Asia, Australia Spanish - Europe, South America We can also have some more regional contacts if we have enough volunteers. What do you guys feel about language + region approach in place of only language based one ? Just my 2 cents ... :) Thank You Best Regards Varun Mittal https://www.google.com/profiles/varunmittal87 Moderator - Global Mailing Lists Libre Office Blog http://www.varunmittal.info/ Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/mittal.varun LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/varunmittal87 Twitterhttp://twitter.com/varunmittal19 Uncertainty is the only Certainty of LIFE -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Klaibson Ribeiro Tel: (48) 9625-8273 www.creativesolucoes.com.br Participe do VI Solisc - Congresso Catarinense de Software Livre www.solisc.org.br -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] How about regional contacts as well in addition to mailing list based ones
Hi :) +1 I think it hadn't occurred to anyone because we are all here together inside the screen regardless of irrelevancies such as geography. Or rather, you are all inside my screen but in a way that is here in my office. At a guess some regional contacts might be able to cover more than one language but in other lands, such as mine, there might need to be more than 1 local rep to cover the different languages spoken in different communities, perhaps more so after the rioting stops. Regards from Tom :) From: Varun Mittal varunmitta...@gmail.com To: TDF Marketing marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 19:07:19 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] How about regional contacts as well in addition to mailing list based ones Hi All, Sorry for starting a new thread for our search of Volunteers for being Marketing Contacts.. I would like to propose that for languages like English, Spanish which have huge catchment areas, we can have regional contacts as well.. For example - English - North America, Europe, South Asia, Australia Spanish - Europe, South America We can also have some more regional contacts if we have enough volunteers. What do you guys feel about language + region approach in place of only language based one ? Just my 2 cents ... :) Thank You Best Regards Varun Mittal https://www.google.com/profiles/varunmittal87 Moderator - Global Mailing Lists Libre Office Blog http://www.varunmittal.info/ Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/mittal.varun LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/varunmittal87 Twitterhttp://twitter.com/varunmittal19 Uncertainty is the only Certainty of LIFE -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] How about regional contacts as well in addition to mailing list based ones
2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) +1 I think it hadn't occurred to anyone because we are all here together inside the screen regardless of irrelevancies such as geography. Or rather, you are all inside my screen but in a way that is here in my office. At a guess some regional contacts might be able to cover more than one language but in other lands, such as mine, there might need to be more than 1 local rep to cover the different languages spoken in different communities, perhaps more so after the rioting stops. I agree. I think that, here in Brazil, there should be two or three people who could represent the main different regions, such South/South East and North East/North/Middle West. Regards from Tom :) Cheers =) -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot to make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something that stands for free software, open standards and a major productivity suite. Many of you have recognized that we have not yet set-up fixed community roles, official titles or named team leads. This has been on purpose, to not create fixed structures from the beginning, and I have a feeling we are performing very well with this approach. In the next months, I am sure that we will see some more structure growing, but I hope it will not be as diverse and large as we had it with OpenOffice.org -- to me, the flat approach we are following at LibreOffice works very well and keeps lowering barriers for people joining the community. When many people contribute their amazing talent, creativity and a lot of time, it is not necessary to have too many different hierarchies in the project. I fully agree to that!!! We are working just fine without such titles and hierarquies... However, there is one area where we should move forward and work for more structures, and that is marketing. Those who have been involved with OpenOffice.org remember our so-called MarCons, the marketing contacts, and I would like to start building something similar in the LibreOffice community. We had various discussions on the marketing mailing list on this topic, and there is a common agreement that this approach is worth a try. For those who don't remember, have a look at this page: http://marketing.openoffice.**org/contacts.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.htmlDon't be irritated by the fact that some well-known LibreOffice people are still listed, it seems that nobody updated the page since September... snip What I want to do is to have a strong and solid network of marketeers for the *LibreOffice* project. They do not represent the Foundation as legal entity, but even more do represent the Community, the project and the product. So, in a nutshell, I am aiming for a distinction between the Foundation's official spokespeople, and the LibreOffice project's spokespeople. The rationale behind this is that in the future, the Foundation might have several projects, each with their own contacts. Ideally, for every international projects that we currently have - http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Local_**Mailing_Lists http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists- we should find at least two community representatives, ideally even three. They will be listed on an official website, should get some official title that we still can decide on (Marketing Contact might be a good choice, but I'm open to other solutions), be elegible to use LibreOffice business cards, and will be the first point of contact for any marketing, PR or journalist-related inquiries in their area. So, while not legally representing the Foundation, those contacts should be recognized as officially spokespeople for the project and the community. Their list of tasks is wide and interesting, like organization of trade shows, translating press releases, giving interviews and answering journalist questions. They will also have many important duties inside the project, the most important one being a gateway between the international marketing of LibreOffice and the local marketing, communicating ideas in both directions and giving feedback. Marketing heavily depends on the market and the area, and the better everyone understands the situation of different areas, the more we can improve our global marketing efforts. Of course, and especially since this is a volunteer job, nobody has to do the job alone. ;-) The most important is that there are trusted contacts in each region who have an overview what is going on, who are willing to coordinate things, and who can also cry for help in case things do not work out the way they plan. Challenges and tasks will heavily differ between various regions, but the core set of todos will be rather similar. In order to make that magic happen, I also aim for improving the communication between the various international groups. One proposal that we currently investigate is to transform the marketing conference calls into some sort of monthly updates on what is going on in the community. We will also ensure that all marketing contacts will receive press releases before they are made public, so they have enough time to translate them or, see above, search for another volunteer to do the translation. Should those people be voted and have a mandate or those positions will be for a lifetime? =) I think we could locally promote ellections from time to time. What do you think? Before I start writing an encyclopedia on community marketing and make everybody
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between their team and the English, perhaps more than one person. Regards from Tom :) From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot to make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something that stands for free software, open standards and a major productivity suite. Many of you have recognized that we have not yet set-up fixed community roles, official titles or named team leads. This has been on purpose, to not create fixed structures from the beginning, and I have a feeling we are performing very well with this approach. In the next months, I am sure that we will see some more structure growing, but I hope it will not be as diverse and large as we had it with OpenOffice.org -- to me, the flat approach we are following at LibreOffice works very well and keeps lowering barriers for people joining the community. When many people contribute their amazing talent, creativity and a lot of time, it is not necessary to have too many different hierarchies in the project. I fully agree to that!!! We are working just fine without such titles and hierarquies... However, there is one area where we should move forward and work for more structures, and that is marketing. Those who have been involved with OpenOffice.org remember our so-called MarCons, the marketing contacts, and I would like to start building something similar in the LibreOffice community. We had various discussions on the marketing mailing list on this topic, and there is a common agreement that this approach is worth a try. For those who don't remember, have a look at this page: http://marketing.openoffice.**org/contacts.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.htmlDon't be irritated by the fact that some well-known LibreOffice people are still listed, it seems that nobody updated the page since September... snip What I want to do is to have a strong and solid network of marketeers for the *LibreOffice* project. They do not represent the Foundation as legal entity, but even more do represent the Community, the project and the product. So, in a nutshell, I am aiming for a distinction between the Foundation's official spokespeople, and the LibreOffice project's spokespeople. The rationale behind this is that in the future, the Foundation might have several projects, each with their own contacts. Ideally, for every international projects that we currently have - http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Local_**Mailing_Lists http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists- we should find at least two community representatives, ideally even three. They will be listed on an official website, should get some official title that we still can decide on (Marketing Contact might be a good choice, but I'm open to other solutions), be elegible to use LibreOffice business cards, and will be the first point of contact for any marketing, PR or journalist-related inquiries in their area. So, while not legally representing the Foundation, those contacts should be recognized as officially spokespeople for the project and the community. Their list of tasks is wide and interesting, like organization of trade shows, translating press releases, giving interviews and answering journalist questions. They will also have many important duties inside the project, the most important one being a gateway between the international marketing of LibreOffice and the local marketing, communicating ideas in both directions and giving feedback. Marketing heavily depends on the market and the area, and the better everyone understands the situation of different areas, the more we can improve our global marketing efforts. Of course, and especially since this is a volunteer job, nobody has to do the job alone. ;-) The most important is that there are trusted contacts in each region who have an overview what is going on, who are willing to coordinate things, and who can also cry for help in case things do not work out the way they plan. Challenges and tasks will heavily differ between various regions, but the core set of todos will be rather similar. In order to make that magic happen, I also aim for improving the communication between the various international groups. One proposal that we currently investigate is to transform the marketing conference calls into some sort of monthly updates on what is going on in the community. We will also
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between their team and the English, perhaps more than one person. Regards from Tom :) I agree with all the notes given by all. Except this one. So, as Paulo already have manifested in the brasilian lists and in the international lists, it's delicate to have people who communicate through other, and that would happen here with this idea. Whether in Brazil or in any country. I agree that English can be a barrier in Brazil, as in other countries. But let middlemen emerge can create filters. And I'm not saying this just thinking about Brazil. After all, as I said, other countries are also experiencing this problem, you may be right. So, I think that the marketing list really should think about that idea, to have more contributors or Mitarbeiter, but I think that everybody on this list need to communicate in English. Without intermediaries, without filters. Best, David From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot to make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something that stands for free software, open standards and a major productivity suite. Many of you have recognized that we have not yet set-up fixed community roles, official titles or named team leads. This has been on purpose, to not create fixed structures from the beginning, and I have a feeling we are performing very well with this approach. In the next months, I am sure that we will see some more structure growing, but I hope it will not be as diverse and large as we had it with OpenOffice.org -- to me, the flat approach we are following at LibreOffice works very well and keeps lowering barriers for people joining the community. When many people contribute their amazing talent, creativity and a lot of time, it is not necessary to have too many different hierarchies in the project. I fully agree to that!!! We are working just fine without such titles and hierarquies... However, there is one area where we should move forward and work for more structures, and that is marketing. Those who have been involved with OpenOffice.org remember our so-called MarCons, the marketing contacts, and I would like to start building something similar in the LibreOffice community. We had various discussions on the marketing mailing list on this topic, and there is a common agreement that this approach is worth a try. For those who don't remember, have a look at this page: http://marketing.openoffice.**org/contacts.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.htmlDon't be irritated by the fact that some well-known LibreOffice people are still listed, it seems that nobody updated the page since September... snip What I want to do is to have a strong and solid network of marketeers for the *LibreOffice* project. They do not represent the Foundation as legal entity, but even more do represent the Community, the project and the product. So, in a nutshell, I am aiming for a distinction between the Foundation's official spokespeople, and the LibreOffice project's spokespeople. The rationale behind this is that in the future, the Foundation might have several projects, each with their own contacts. Ideally, for every international projects that we currently have - http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Local_**Mailing_Lists http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists- we should find at least two community representatives, ideally even three. They will be listed on an official website, should get some official title that we still can decide on (Marketing Contact might be a good choice, but I'm open to other solutions), be elegible to use LibreOffice business cards, and will be the first point of contact for any marketing, PR or journalist-related inquiries in their area. So, while not legally representing the Foundation, those contacts should be recognized as officially spokespeople for the project and the community. Their list of tasks is wide and interesting, like organization of trade shows, translating press releases, giving interviews and answering journalist questions. They will also have many important duties inside the project, the most important one being a gateway between the international marketing of LibreOffice and the local marketing, communicating ideas in both directions and giving
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
Hi :) So ban people from those positions unless they can speak English? It seems a bit elitist to me. Why middle men? Why not middle women? Regards from Tom :) From: David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 21:15:50 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between their team and the English, perhaps more than one person. Regards from Tom :) I agree with all the notes given by all. Except this one. So, as Paulo already have manifested in the brasilian lists and in the international lists, it's delicate to have people who communicate through other, and that would happen here with this idea. Whether in Brazil or in any country. I agree that English can be a barrier in Brazil, as in other countries. But let middlemen emerge can create filters. And I'm not saying this just thinking about Brazil. After all, as I said, other countries are also experiencing this problem, you may be right. So, I think that the marketing list really should think about that idea, to have more contributors or Mitarbeiter, but I think that everybody on this list need to communicate in English. Without intermediaries, without filters. Best, David From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot to make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something that stands for free software, open standards and a major productivity suite. Many of you have recognized that we have not yet set-up fixed community roles, official titles or named team leads. This has been on purpose, to not create fixed structures from the beginning, and I have a feeling we are performing very well with this approach. In the next months, I am sure that we will see some more structure growing, but I hope it will not be as diverse and large as we had it with OpenOffice.org -- to me, the flat approach we are following at LibreOffice works very well and keeps lowering barriers for people joining the community. When many people contribute their amazing talent, creativity and a lot of time, it is not necessary to have too many different hierarchies in the project. I fully agree to that!!! We are working just fine without such titles and hierarquies... However, there is one area where we should move forward and work for more structures, and that is marketing. Those who have been involved with OpenOffice.org remember our so-called MarCons, the marketing contacts, and I would like to start building something similar in the LibreOffice community. We had various discussions on the marketing mailing list on this topic, and there is a common agreement that this approach is worth a try. For those who don't remember, have a look at this page: http://marketing.openoffice.**org/contacts.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.htmlDon't be irritated by the fact that some well-known LibreOffice people are still listed, it seems that nobody updated the page since September... snip What I want to do is to have a strong and solid network of marketeers for the *LibreOffice* project. They do not represent the Foundation as legal entity, but even more do represent the Community, the project and the product. So, in a nutshell, I am aiming for a distinction between the Foundation's official spokespeople, and the LibreOffice project's spokespeople. The rationale behind this is that in the future, the Foundation might have several projects, each with their own contacts. Ideally, for every international projects that we currently have - http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Local_**Mailing_Lists http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists- we should find at least two community representatives, ideally even three. They will be listed on an official website, should get some official title that we still can decide on (Marketing Contact might be a good choice, but I'm open to other solutions), be elegible to use LibreOffice business cards, and will be the first point of contact for any marketing, PR or journalist-related inquiries in their area. So, while not legally representing the Foundation, those contacts should be recognized as officially spokespeople for the project and the
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
I'd like to represent middle Tennessee market. On Aug 10, 2011 5:39 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) So ban people from those positions unless they can speak English? It seems a bit elitist to me. Why middle men? Why not middle women? Regards from Tom :) From: David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 21:15:50 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between their team and the English, perhaps more than one person. Regards from Tom :) I agree with all the notes given by all. Except this one. So, as Paulo already have manifested in the brasilian lists and in the international lists, it's delicate to have people who communicate through other, and that would happen here with this idea. Whether in Brazil or in any country. I agree that English can be a barrier in Brazil, as in other countries. But let middlemen emerge can create filters. And I'm not saying this just thinking about Brazil. After all, as I said, other countries are also experiencing this problem, you may be right. So, I think that the marketing list really should think about that idea, to have more contributors or Mitarbeiter, but I think that everybody on this list need to communicate in English. Without intermediaries, without filters. Best, David From: Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 10 August, 2011 20:51:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers Hi Florian, Hello, since September 28th, 2010, everyone of you has done a fantastic job, invested a tremendous amount of work, and has been contributing a lot to make LibreOffice what it is today -- a software used worldwide, a well-recognized brand, and a name people trust in, something that stands for free software, open standards and a major productivity suite. Many of you have recognized that we have not yet set-up fixed community roles, official titles or named team leads. This has been on purpose, to not create fixed structures from the beginning, and I have a feeling we are performing very well with this approach. In the next months, I am sure that we will see some more structure growing, but I hope it will not be as diverse and large as we had it with OpenOffice.org -- to me, the flat approach we are following at LibreOffice works very well and keeps lowering barriers for people joining the community. When many people contribute their amazing talent, creativity and a lot of time, it is not necessary to have too many different hierarchies in the project. I fully agree to that!!! We are working just fine without such titles and hierarquies... However, there is one area where we should move forward and work for more structures, and that is marketing. Those who have been involved with OpenOffice.org remember our so-called MarCons, the marketing contacts, and I would like to start building something similar in the LibreOffice community. We had various discussions on the marketing mailing list on this topic, and there is a common agreement that this approach is worth a try. For those who don't remember, have a look at this page: http://marketing.openoffice.**org/contacts.html http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.htmlDon't be irritated by the fact that some well-known LibreOffice people are still listed, it seems that nobody updated the page since September... snip What I want to do is to have a strong and solid network of marketeers for the *LibreOffice* project. They do not represent the Foundation as legal entity, but even more do represent the Community, the project and the product. So, in a nutshell, I am aiming for a distinction between the Foundation's official spokespeople, and the LibreOffice project's spokespeople. The rationale behind this is that in the future, the Foundation might have several projects, each with their own contacts. Ideally, for every international projects that we currently have - http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/Local_**Mailing_Lists http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists- we should find at least two community representatives, ideally even three. They will be listed on an official website, should get some official title that we still can decide on (Marketing Contact might be a good choice, but I'm open to other solutions), be elegible to use LibreOffice business cards, and will be the first point of contact for any marketing, PR or journalist-related inquiries in their area. So, while not
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Building a network of marketeers
2011/8/10 David Emmerich Jourdain jourd...@documentfoundation.org Hi, 2011/8/10 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) It might be possible for a team of people or even an individual that don't speak English to choose someone that does speak English to translate between their team and the English, perhaps more than one person. Regards from Tom :) I agree with all the notes given by all. Except this one. So, as Paulo already have manifested in the brasilian lists and in the international lists, it's delicate to have people who communicate through other, and that would happen here with this idea. Whether in Brazil or in any country. I agree that English can be a barrier in Brazil, as in other countries. But let middlemen emerge can create filters. And I'm not saying this just thinking about Brazil. After all, as I said, other countries are also experiencing this problem, you may be right. So, I think that the marketing list really should think about that idea, to have more contributors or Mitarbeiter, but I think that everybody on this list need to communicate in English. Without intermediaries, without filters. Best, Well, we have to make clear that we are talking about verbal communications only, not all communications. Marketing lists and others are open and I don't think marketing team will discuss anything hidden verbally. So, only in this case, I am about to agree with those proxys, once what will be discussed in phone or personal meetings will be discussed in marketing lists also. What do you think? David Rgds -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
