Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice
Hi Jean, all, Am 10.03.2012 05:13, schrieb Jean Weber: Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events, attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community and the customer base. 2 thoughts: - maybe interesting for the BoD-ml (board-disc...@documentfoundation.org) too. - maybe some part of the money for a travel refund (see point 12 of the BoD-tasks [1]? We are not yet in a position to pay these [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks --- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice
Hi :) I thought the plan was to have local teams, such as the Brazilian, or the French or wherever, all administering their own finances and then giving maybe a flat rate as Affiliation fees or some such and then maybe a percentage too. My personal feeling is that Local teams need to work towards being self-sufficient and it would be great if they can cover their own sundry costs without always having to discuss minutia and waiting for TDF's BoD to approve a sundry expense. I don't see any problem with Local Teams being affiliated to both OOo and LO at the same time now. I guess some funds may need to be restricted to one or the other but that is something for the bookkeeping records and end-of-year financial accounts. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 10/3/12, ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 10 March, 2012, 8:18 Hi Jean, all, Am 10.03.2012 05:13, schrieb Jean Weber: Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events, attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community and the customer base. 2 thoughts: - maybe interesting for the BoD-ml (board-disc...@documentfoundation.org) too. - maybe some part of the money for a travel refund (see point 12 of the BoD-tasks [1]? We are not yet in a position to pay these [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks --- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice
Can a marketing person request a printed LO user guide instead of money? I am approaching a Church School to adopt L O vice MSO. A book to show them in my presentation will help. On Mar 10, 2012 6:24 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, Are you supporting or objecting to having local groups request some of the money that Friends of OpenDocument is holding? Jean On 11/03/2012, at 8:55, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I thought the plan was to have local teams, such as the Brazilian, or the French or wherever, all administering their own finances and then giving maybe a flat rate as Affiliation fees or some such and then maybe a percentage too. My personal feeling is that Local teams need to work towards being self-sufficient and it would be great if they can cover their own sundry costs without always having to discuss minutia and waiting for TDF's BoD to approve a sundry expense. I don't see any problem with Local Teams being affiliated to both OOo and LO at the same time now. I guess some funds may need to be restricted to one or the other but that is something for the bookkeeping records and end-of-year financial accounts. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 10/3/12, ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 10 March, 2012, 8:18 Hi Jean, all, Am 10.03.2012 05:13, schrieb Jean Weber: Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events, attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community and the customer base. 2 thoughts: - maybe interesting for the BoD-ml (board-disc...@documentfoundation.org) too. - maybe some part of the money for a travel refund (see point 12 of the BoD-tasks [1]? We are not yet in a position to pay these [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks --- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice
Hi :) Ahh, i got really muddled about what was being asked. I think it sounds reasonable to ask for the money that was raised by the community that has now mostly moved to LibreOffice but i don't think we can expect them to comply. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 11/3/12, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 11 March, 2012, 1:00 Can a marketing person request a printed LO user guide instead of money? I am approaching a Church School to adopt L O vice MSO. A book to show them in my presentation will help. On Mar 10, 2012 6:24 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, Are you supporting or objecting to having local groups request some of the money that Friends of OpenDocument is holding? Jean On 11/03/2012, at 8:55, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I thought the plan was to have local teams, such as the Brazilian, or the French or wherever, all administering their own finances and then giving maybe a flat rate as Affiliation fees or some such and then maybe a percentage too. My personal feeling is that Local teams need to work towards being self-sufficient and it would be great if they can cover their own sundry costs without always having to discuss minutia and waiting for TDF's BoD to approve a sundry expense. I don't see any problem with Local Teams being affiliated to both OOo and LO at the same time now. I guess some funds may need to be restricted to one or the other but that is something for the bookkeeping records and end-of-year financial accounts. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 10/3/12, ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 10 March, 2012, 8:18 Hi Jean, all, Am 10.03.2012 05:13, schrieb Jean Weber: Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events, attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community and the customer base. 2 thoughts: - maybe interesting for the BoD-ml (board-disc...@documentfoundation.org) too. - maybe some part of the money for a travel refund (see point 12 of the BoD-tasks [1]? We are not yet in a position to pay these [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks --- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice
Tom, Expect *who* to comply? And comply with what? --Jean On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:14, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Ahh, i got really muddled about what was being asked. I think it sounds reasonable to ask for the money that was raised by the community that has now mostly moved to LibreOffice but i don't think we can expect them to comply. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 11/3/12, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 11 March, 2012, 1:00 Can a marketing person request a printed LO user guide instead of money? I am approaching a Church School to adopt L O vice MSO. A book to show them in my presentation will help. On Mar 10, 2012 6:24 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, Are you supporting or objecting to having local groups request some of the money that Friends of OpenDocument is holding? Jean On 11/03/2012, at 8:55, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I thought the plan was to have local teams, such as the Brazilian, or the French or wherever, all administering their own finances and then giving maybe a flat rate as Affiliation fees or some such and then maybe a percentage too. My personal feeling is that Local teams need to work towards being self-sufficient and it would be great if they can cover their own sundry costs without always having to discuss minutia and waiting for TDF's BoD to approve a sundry expense. I don't see any problem with Local Teams being affiliated to both OOo and LO at the same time now. I guess some funds may need to be restricted to one or the other but that is something for the bookkeeping records and end-of-year financial accounts. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 10/3/12, ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 10 March, 2012, 8:18 Hi Jean, all, Am 10.03.2012 05:13, schrieb Jean Weber: Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events, attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community and the customer base. 2 thoughts: - maybe interesting for the BoD-ml (board-disc...@documentfoundation.org) too. - maybe some part of the money for a travel refund (see point 12 of the BoD-tasks [1]? We are not yet in a position to pay these [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks --- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice
I should add that any request for books or money should say how the LO community might benefit, and why the requester (individual or group) is unable (or would find it difficult) to cover the cost themself. Each request will be considered on its merits, and no one should assume that any particular request would be approved or declined. Jean On 11/03/2012, at 11:17, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Dave. Yes, that's a common use of the money: sending copies of user guides to people for various promotional purposes. (And that way the books are paid for by the publisher -- FoOD -- at the wholesale price, not the retail price, typically saving more than enough to cover shipping.) Please send your request, with details of which book (there are several in the LO series), why wanted, address for delivery, etc) to i...@friendsofopendocument.com. Allow at least 4 weeks for delivery. Mind you, the covers on the current books don't look very exciting or professional. The next set of books will have a really nice cover... if the Docs team ever finishes an update so FoOD can publish it! --Jean On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:00, Dave Johnson davefilms...@gmail.com wrote: Can a marketing person request a printed LO user guide instead of money? I am approaching a Church School to adopt L O vice MSO. A book to show them in my presentation will help. On Mar 10, 2012 6:24 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Tom, Are you supporting or objecting to having local groups request some of the money that Friends of OpenDocument is holding? Jean On 11/03/2012, at 8:55, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I thought the plan was to have local teams, such as the Brazilian, or the French or wherever, all administering their own finances and then giving maybe a flat rate as Affiliation fees or some such and then maybe a percentage too. My personal feeling is that Local teams need to work towards being self-sufficient and it would be great if they can cover their own sundry costs without always having to discuss minutia and waiting for TDF's BoD to approve a sundry expense. I don't see any problem with Local Teams being affiliated to both OOo and LO at the same time now. I guess some funds may need to be restricted to one or the other but that is something for the bookkeeping records and end-of-year financial accounts. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sat, 10/3/12, ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: ol klaus-jürgen weghorn o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Funds available for marketing LibreOffice To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Saturday, 10 March, 2012, 8:18 Hi Jean, all, Am 10.03.2012 05:13, schrieb Jean Weber: Instead of giving the LO money to The Document Foundation for general expenses, we think it is better to make it available to cover expenses that The Document Foundation can't or won't deal with. Some examples might be the cost of marketing materials (including copies of the user guides) for tables at events, attendance at events aimed at potential and actual customers (librarians, educators, etc), or just about anything that would be valuable for spreading awareness and growing the community and the customer base. 2 thoughts: - maybe interesting for the BoD-ml (board-disc...@documentfoundation.org) too. - maybe some part of the money for a travel refund (see point 12 of the BoD-tasks [1]? We are not yet in a position to pay these [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Tasks --- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more:
