Fw: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Engaging Users?

2013-10-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
I didn't get any feedback on the survey draft I've set here:
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing so I thought I'd share it
with a wider audience. You can get more context in the quoted mails
and/or checking the thread Engaging Users on the marketing list.

Scroll down the marketing pad for the survey.

Thanks!


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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:46:36 +0200
De: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
À: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Sujet: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Engaging Users?


Hello,

Thank you everyone so far for your contributions to this thread. I
suggest that we fork our discussion at this point. One branch will
restart later on the website list and will be about the more practical
outcomes of our discussion (presenting opportunities to get involved to
users, roughly speaking) but one will continue here with that is
presumably an important step in our work and how we think about the
present challenge. 

More specifically we are going to focus on conducting a survey for the
users. I took the liberty to draft one, with my methodology being a top
down logic and trying to cover personal motivations, technical
awareness and knowledge as well as users' perception. I kept it
somewhat short in order to not flabbergast everyone, but your input is
welcome (and you can do so directly on the pad!):

http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/marketing (scroll down for the
survey)

Thanks,

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[libreoffice-marketing] CeBIT

2013-10-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

I'd like to bring your attention to next year's CeBIT in Hannover. CeBIT 
is amongst the longest and most important trade shows, at least in 
Europe, and we have been there ever since, mostly due to the laudable 
efforts of Jacqueline and Thomas. It takes place early March and lasts 
(IMHO) 5 days.


Given the international recognition and audience of CeBIT, it definitely 
makes sense to represent TDF internationally here, should we attend, 
e.g. by having people join for one or two days from the various at least 
European countries we are active in, and be present with talks.


Thomas Krumbein from FrODeV kindly checked prices and conditions, and is 
willing to organize CeBIT and staff the booth for the full week (but of 
course, more than just one person is needed, see above).


The drawback of CeBIT is the high costs, ranging around 7-10k € for the 
booth and booth rental, for about 12 m². While there are surely options 
of having a smaller booth, those don't make much sense - I'd rather 
prefer to not exhibit there, or to solely send in talk proposals, than 
joining at a small booth nobody looks at.


Last year, we paid about 4k € or so, but feedback was that by not having 
an individual booth, our recognition was rather low.


How do people generally feel about attending CeBIT and the associated 
costs? Is this something we should look forward into planning, and start 
looking for sponsors to cover parts of the cost, or shall we go for a 
different approach?


Thoughts welcome,
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] CeBIT

2013-10-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Florian,

Le Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:46:33 +0200,
Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

 Hello,
 
 I'd like to bring your attention to next year's CeBIT in Hannover.
 CeBIT is amongst the longest and most important trade shows, at least
 in Europe, and we have been there ever since, mostly due to the
 laudable efforts of Jacqueline and Thomas. It takes place early March
 and lasts (IMHO) 5 days.
 
 Given the international recognition and audience of CeBIT, it
 definitely makes sense to represent TDF internationally here, should
 we attend, e.g. by having people join for one or two days from the
 various at least European countries we are active in, and be present
 with talks.
 
 Thomas Krumbein from FrODeV kindly checked prices and conditions, and
 is willing to organize CeBIT and staff the booth for the full week
 (but of course, more than just one person is needed, see above).
 
 The drawback of CeBIT is the high costs, ranging around 7-10k € for
 the booth and booth rental, for about 12 m². While there are surely
 options of having a smaller booth, those don't make much sense - I'd
 rather prefer to not exhibit there, or to solely send in talk
 proposals, than joining at a small booth nobody looks at.
 
 Last year, we paid about 4k € or so, but feedback was that by not
 having an individual booth, our recognition was rather low.
 
 How do people generally feel about attending CeBIT and the associated 
 costs? Is this something we should look forward into planning, and
 start looking for sponsors to cover parts of the cost, or shall we go
 for a different approach?

I think that if we indeed put the question of the costs next to whether
we want to attend this event, then the real question is: what are we
looking to achieve? If it's mere presence, then few people won't notice
us like last year but that can still be helpful. Maybe we are looking
to have a stronger investment this year because of the following
(potential) reasons
- we want to raise our brand awareness
- we want to initiate new collaboration opportunities for the project
- we want to attract the press
- we have a special announcement to make or something specific to show

Contrary to an actual business we don't have the question of meeting
new and potential customers. But the question of the return on
investment makes sense of course. So I'm not answering your question
right away, just moving forward on it :-) Next we ought to see what
specific tasks we should work on should we decide to go to the CeBit.

best, 

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] CeBIT

2013-10-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2013-10-25 16:24:


I think that if we indeed put the question of the costs next to whether
we want to attend this event, then the real question is: what are we
looking to achieve? If it's mere presence, then few people won't notice
us like last year but that can still be helpful. Maybe we are looking


so, I think if we attend, we clearly should bring more TDF people on 
place. Like having you, Italo, me, and some other folks from Europe for 
one or two days, also with sending in talk proposals, makes a lot of sense.


I might be biased, but to me, attending CeBIT is rather important to be 
seen - it still is the largest IT event at least in Europe, if not 
worldwide.


However, finding some sponsors to lower the costs definitely is worth 
looking into...


Florian

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[libreoffice-marketing] rollApp LibreOffice apps running on browser

2013-10-25 Thread Zeki Bildirici
Hi,

I just see rollApp on twtiter while surfing on LibreOffice tag. I've
seen some demonstrations before but never seen it. And as far as i
searched lists it is not talked.

Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw is availbale:
https://www.rollapp.com/search?query=libreoffice

Interesting comments on the product pages.(Works good on ipad etc)

Also there is an alternative as Chorme Plugins:
http://www.muktware.com/2012/07/run-libreoffice-in-google-chrome,-chromebooks/2885

Do you know any more alternatives in browsers?

May be good to promote.

Best regards,
Zeki

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