Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?

2010-11-12 Thread Michael Wheatland
David,
As a part of the website development team I thought I might share some
info which relates directly to what you were saying.

 Further to the discussions during to the conference call, my POV
 concerning communications channels is that lists don't make a good
 information storage medium. People quote badly, people go OT, people
 rant, and ideas and info easily get lost in the noise. They *can* be
 good for brainstorming. But very soon after each important thread
 reaches a natural conclusion, someone needs to collate and summarize
 the results and then post them to the wiki.

We found exactly the same thing within the website team that too many
rants were getting in the way of progress on many topics. With the
steering committee's decision to move to Drupal within 6 months, the
team who are currently working on the implementation had to tackle
these exact issues. We have come up with a way to satisfy all (most)
of our community with forums which would also allow mailing list
functionality for those who would actually still choose to use it.

For those interested the official Drupal development site is located at:
www.libreofficeaustralia.org
(sorry about the localisation, but I plan an Aussie group setup after
it goes live on libreoffice.org)
P.S. Anyone with Drupal theme experience would be greatly appreciated.

Until the Drupal site is setup this kind of functionality will not be
'officially' available, but in the meantime the website team has been
chatting through the mailing list, tracking the ideas and progress on
the wiki and turning great ideas into reality. See:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website

 (Google Wave is also great for brainstorming, in many ways, but takes
 some getting used to, and also demands posting discipline.)

A 'Wave' is an open source federated communication protocol. In
'non-geeklish' we can install a wave server on our server and use
either a web based client or desktop clients to access the server.
This is a great idea. I will float the idea in the website mailing
list and see what kind of response I get.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?

2010-11-12 Thread Cor Nouws

Bernhard Dippold wrote (12-11-10 00:57)


I agree that it is not easy to follow the threads on the topics you


I too have to make choices, and do skip threads.


mention, but from our experience with the OOo Art project and even more
the Branding Initiative there are important topics to be shared between
the general marketing guys and the designers/artist working on
branding and visual design.


Indeed. So one, at most two lists, is best, AFAIAC.

Ciao - Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?

2010-11-12 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 19:56, Michael Wheatland
mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote:
 A 'Wave' is an open source federated communication protocol. In
 'non-geeklish' we can install a wave server on our server and use
 either a web based client or desktop clients to access the server.
 This is a great idea. I will float the idea in the website mailing
 list and see what kind of response I get.

Actually, Michael, I feel that TDF could actually lighten its workload
quite a bit by relying on outside services from robust sources such as
Google for quite a few things, and would then be able to focus its
efforts on deploying and maintaining those things for which it really
feels the effort is worthwhile, such as the blog and the wiki. Google
Apps provides Wave - and lots of other useful collaboration
facilities. Why re-invent the wheel?

0.2 cents. ;-)

David Nelson

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?

2010-11-12 Thread Ivan M.
Hi all,

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Bernhard Dippold
bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote:
 [...]
 I'd propose to use the tag [DESIGN], as it covers not only artwork, branding
 and visual design, but usability design and UI design too.

 If this tag is not sufficient to differ these topics from general marketing,
 we should definitely ask for a dedicated list (and consistent with the tag
 I'd call it des...@libreoffice.org - what actually has been Christoph's idea
 I present now shamelessly)

+1. I think it's a good term that encompasses UX as well (if we don't
want separate UX/branding lists).

Regards,
Ivan.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?

2010-11-11 Thread David Nelson
P.S. If it's not already done, I'd recommend that TDF set-up Google
Apps for documentfoundation.org and/or libreoffice.org. There's a host
of really useful stuff for collaboration, etc. Plus you can fulfill
your mail needs without busting your heads configuring and maintaining
a mail server.

David Nelson

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