Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

2014-04-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
on Friday, April 18, 2014 4:06 PM Rob Weir wrote:

  What do you think what is the target group that is? Only
 project members, or interested OpenOffice users [*] who want
 to stay up to date?
  
 
 I think it would be a mix of two audiences:
 
 1) Project members who focus on one are of the project, say,
 translation, but want to have a high level view of what is happening
   ^^^
 in other areas of the project.


Yes, it is, at this specific perspective I had not thought


 That sounds like a lot of work. 

not really, please look here two points: 

1. 
I do not fully translate everything, but only the summary statements 

2.
Our work takes place in reality, that is, not all local projects will create 
translations, but this is not yet so bad. 
For example, see the Release Notes, there only translations for a part of the 
recorded languages will be created.

 But if you want to do it...

The English original of news should of course be published in the blog, the 
translations (eg German) but imho can remain in the wiki.

I have the structure in the wiki something customized. There is now for (de) 
the design area: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335 

the week is first deleted and then filled with new content. 

Also, there is the area for the publications, which is an archive of 
publications at the same time: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509513


Note:
I would also equal to post a link to the staging page with the entry in the 
German website, but the Apache CMS currently seems not to work.


 Another possibility to consider:  We could include native language
 stories directly in main wiki page.  For example, the 100 million
 download post had coverage in Italian and French.  They could be
 included directly.  If there is an interesting thread on a native
 language mailing list or forum, that could be added, etc.  So the main
 post could be international and multi-lingual, but not translated.

That's right, but please look realistic: AOO is a meritocracy project and only 
the work done, the concrete people want to do. 
Of course, many things would Other desirable, but this discussion is 
theoretically as long as there are no people who want to do the work 
concretely. 


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

2014-04-18 Thread Jörg Schmidt
on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:37 PM Rob Weir wrote:
 In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb
 project was doing on their blog:
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3
 
 I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting
 stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular
 intervals.  The feedback was good, so let's give it a try!
 
 The template, with a little content to get started is on the
 wiki here:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
 Id=40508638 
 
 As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the
 forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the
 wiki.   When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will
 copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset
 the wiki so we can start again for the next issue.

I think this is an interesting idea. 

What do you think what is the target group that is? Only project members, or 
interested OpenOffice users [*] who want to stay up to date? 

In the latter case, it would not make sense these blog posts to translate into 
important passages [**] and to link to the Native Language websites? 


[*]
Note: also, for example Consutants 
(http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html) are ultimately OO users

[**]
Why only in important passages? 
Because I can think of to do this work for de. There must be, however, always 
be a full translation, I lack the time to do so. 
See my current translation (still in progress): 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335



Greetings,
Jörg



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Re: OpenOffice Weekly News

2014-04-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote:
 on Monday, April 14, 2014 7:37 PM Rob Weir wrote:
 In another thread I pointed to an interesting thing the CouchDb
 project was doing on their blog:

 https://blogs.apache.org/couchdb/entry/couchdb_weekly_news_april_3

 I suggested doing something similar for AOO, perhaps by collecting
 stories on the wiki and then copying into a blog post at regular
 intervals.  The feedback was good, so let's give it a try!

 The template, with a little content to get started is on the
 wiki here:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
 Id=40508638

 As you come across interesting content, from within the community, the
 forums, in the press, blogs, wherever, feel free to add it to the
 wiki.   When April 21st comes, I (or someone else if they want) will
 copy it into the blog, do some light editing, publish and then reset
 the wiki so we can start again for the next issue.

 I think this is an interesting idea.

 What do you think what is the target group that is? Only project members, or 
 interested OpenOffice users [*] who want to stay up to date?


I think it would be a mix of two audiences:

1) Project members who focus on one are of the project, say,
translation, but want to have a high level view of what is happening
in other areas of the project.

2) Users who don't subscribe to our mailing lists but are interested
in knowing what happens between releases.


 In the latter case, it would not make sense these blog posts to translate 
 into important passages [**] and to link to the Native Language websites?


That sounds like a lot of work.  But if you want to do it...

Another possibility to consider:  We could include native language
stories directly in main wiki page.  For example, the 100 million
download post had coverage in Italian and French.  They could be
included directly.  If there is an interesting thread on a native
language mailing list or forum, that could be added, etc.  So the main
post could be international and multi-lingual, but not translated.

-Rob



 [*]
 Note: also, for example Consutants 
 (http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html) are ultimately OO users

 [**]
 Why only in important passages?
 Because I can think of to do this work for de. There must be, however, always 
 be a full translation, I lack the time to do so.
 See my current translation (still in progress): 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=40509335



 Greetings,
 Jörg



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