Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-07 Thread Allan Day
Thanks for kicking this off, Andre! I'll be sure to chip in where I
can. My last blog post [1] might be useful, too.

Now, a question. We typically keep the release notes secret until the
release itself. At least one member of the press has told me that this
makes it quite difficult for him to cover GNOME releases, since there
is little information about the release until it is actually out.

Is there a way we can disclose what will be in the release prior to
release day itself? Maybe the release notes could be made public with
the release candidate, for example? It would be really useful to know
what other projects do in this regard.

One other thing that we've spoken about is moving away from the
library/documentation format for the release notes. Hosting them
directly on gnome.org would give us a lot more freedom in terms of how
we present the notes (so they would look more like the GNOME 3 page
[2], for example).

Allan

[1] http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/looking-forward-to-gnome-3-4/

[2] http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
 I've committed an initial stub for the 3.4 release notes:
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/release-notes/commit/?h=gnome-3-4id=87991dfb2c52704db6481ab3c3d78d7dc73d22e7

 The required steps are (hopefully) documented on
 https://live.gnome.org/AndreKlapper/WritingReleaseNotes

 @fpeters: Could you please set up
 http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.4/ with password
 protection?

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Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:


 Is there a way we can disclose what will be in the release prior to
 release day itself? Maybe the release notes could be made public with
 the release candidate, for example? It would be really useful to know
 what other projects do in this regard.

Don't the feature pages serve this need, at least partially ? Of
course, before we advertise them as 'this is whats coming', we need to
weed out the features that did not make it in the end, and make sure
the remaining ones reflect somewhat acurately what was actually done.
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Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-07 Thread Shaun McCance
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 09:28 +, Allan Day wrote:
 One other thing that we've spoken about is moving away from the
 library/documentation format for the release notes. Hosting them
 directly on gnome.org would give us a lot more freedom in terms of how
 we present the notes (so they would look more like the GNOME 3 page
 [2], for example).

How would we handle translations?

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Re: 3.4 Release Notes

2012-03-07 Thread Andre Klapper
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 09:28 +, Allan Day wrote:
 Now, a question. We typically keep the release notes secret until the
 release itself. At least one member of the press has told me that this
 makes it quite difficult for him to cover GNOME releases, since there
 is little information about the release until it is actually out.
 
 Is there a way we can disclose what will be in the release prior to
 release day itself? Maybe the release notes could be made public with
 the release candidate, for example? It would be really useful to know
 what other projects do in this regard.

I don't have any opinion on this. In the past we've been having a
password protection, but we could drop that and add a This is not the
final version, things might be wrong and change header - same as on
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/ReleaseNotes .

 One other thing that we've spoken about is moving away from the
 library/documentation format for the release notes. Hosting them
 directly on gnome.org would give us a lot more freedom in terms of how
 we present the notes

What would you like to see that Mallard cannot do?

  (so they would look more like the GNOME 3 page
 [2], for example).

I was thinking of switching from Docbook to Mallard for 3.6 (I didn't
have time to prepare this for 3.4 already).
The advantages of GNOME 3 page style are unclear to me currently,
however I would first have to know what markup language this move would
imply, plus if anybody would be actually willing to prepare this move.

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