Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
June data is out, and subscriptions went way down: http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/ I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May and June. In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on: * Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun Andreas, I believe you were working on this? Any updates?) * Add a Donate button to the footer of gnome.org (For example, Gimp at http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation) * We're approaching our $20k goal for Sysadmin - what's our next goal, and how much? (I like goals, I think it helps people to focus on them and want to attain them) If anyone wants to grab a task, the help is appreciated! Thanks. Paul On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: I can have a go at it. BTW how high were the donations in June? Did it go up? Jaap On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 18:46, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Who would like to be the Friends of GNOME maintainer? We've gotten a lot of feedback, especially on the subscription process. People would like to be able to: - choose their monthly amount - pick an annual subscription or a monthly subscription - pick dollars or euros And we've gotten feedback like: - the default amount should be at least $25 - make it easy to make a one time payment in your preferred amount And we need it to be easy to just pick the default and go without lots of choices overwhelming people. I'm not a usability expert, but obviously we can't just keep listing more and more options, we need to branch out into drop down lists, etc. Another complication is that Paypal doesn't allow variable amounts, so we will have to create a Paypal subscription for every option we offer. Rosanna and I can help with that part. Would somebody like to take on the challenge? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: June data is out, and subscriptions went way down: http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/ I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May and June. In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on: * Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun Andreas, I believe you were working on this? Any updates?) * Add a Donate button to the footer of gnome.org (For example, Gimp at http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation) Andreas and I talked about this at the Desktop Summit and I think he was going to do it ... * We're approaching our $20k goal for Sysadmin - what's our next goal, and how much? (I like goals, I think it helps people to focus on them and want to attain them) Actually, we haven't. That's why we could use the thermometer. We've reached our original goal for the year of $20K. The sys admin goal was an additional goal on top of that. If anyone wants to grab a task, the help is appreciated! If you want to help and aren't sure how, just propose it here! Stormy Thanks. Paul On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: I can have a go at it. BTW how high were the donations in June? Did it go up? Jaap On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 18:46, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Who would like to be the Friends of GNOME maintainer? We've gotten a lot of feedback, especially on the subscription process. People would like to be able to: - choose their monthly amount - pick an annual subscription or a monthly subscription - pick dollars or euros And we've gotten feedback like: - the default amount should be at least $25 - make it easy to make a one time payment in your preferred amount And we need it to be easy to just pick the default and go without lots of choices overwhelming people. I'm not a usability expert, but obviously we can't just keep listing more and more options, we need to branch out into drop down lists, etc. Another complication is that Paypal doesn't allow variable amounts, so we will have to create a Paypal subscription for every option we offer. Rosanna and I can help with that part. Would somebody like to take on the challenge? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
Done! - Andreas On 07/21/2009 03:51 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: Not sure if this paragraph header fits, but here's a first draft, using similar copy from the Friends page: Become a Friend of GNOME Help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME. Your donation will ensure that GNOME continues to be a free and open source desktop. Learn more and become a Friend of GNOME today! (With links to www.gnome.org/friends http://www.gnome.org/friends in the last sentence) On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se mailto:nisses.m...@home.se wrote: On 07/21/2009 03:13 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: June data is out, and subscriptions went way down: http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/ I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May and June. In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on: * Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun Andreas, I believe you were working on this? Any updates?) Still in progress. I still need to do graphics for a vertical thing as well. Will ping Shaumn again and ask about how things are going for him. * Add a Donate button to the footer of gnome.org http://gnome.org (For example, Gimp at http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation) I was thinking of doing it as a header between What is GNOME? and Get GNOME t-shirts Any ideas for the text? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
Thanks! Can I suggest a minor word change? We should include the word Donate prominently since that's what people might be looking for. Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or it could go in the title: Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME! Two minor things: - There's an extra space after the Friends section. - We should end the title in a ! for consistency. Stormy On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.sewrote: Done! - Andreas On 07/21/2009 03:51 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: Not sure if this paragraph header fits, but here's a first draft, using similar copy from the Friends page: Become a Friend of GNOME Help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME. Your donation will ensure that GNOME continues to be a free and open source desktop. Learn more and become a Friend of GNOME today! (With links to www.gnome.org/friends in the last sentence) On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.sewrote: On 07/21/2009 03:13 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: June data is out, and subscriptions went way down: http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/ I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May and June. In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on: * Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun Andreas, I believe you were working on this? Any updates?) Still in progress. I still need to do graphics for a vertical thing as well. Will ping Shaumn again and ask about how things are going for him. * Add a Donate button to the footer of gnome.org (For example, Gimp at http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation) I was thinking of doing it as a header between What is GNOME? and Get GNOME t-shirts Any ideas for the text? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
Ahoj, Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters: Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or it could go in the title: Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME! Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/blaed about http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last days so I can't give credits. Proposal: Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free desktop for all users. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
Correct grammar should be: Donate! You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all users. Sometimes it's the little things. :) Paul On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.sewrote: On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters: Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or it could go in the title: Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME! Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/blaed about http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last days so I can't give credits. Proposal: Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free desktop for all users. Let's try it! Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done! - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
One minor tweak, perhaps. I¹m not so happy with the ³You should², myself, on two counts: ³Donate! Become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all users!² gets rid of two unnecessary words, and ³should² for me has a connotation of obligation, and invites me to think ³Well, I know I should, but...² They know they¹re ³you²; don¹t tell em what they should dothey don¹t do what they should do all day long, and so do Itell em what to do. (Also, I like a stressitalicized?--on the word ³all². There¹s an important subtext in there, in terms of localization, of accessibility, etc. Maybe we¹ll even get that gender-neutral-ish equal-opportunity-ish thing working sometime. Shoot me now.) On 7/21/09 3:20 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Correct grammar should be: Donate! You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all users. Sometimes it's the little things. :) Paul On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se wrote: On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters: Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or it could go in the title: Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME! Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/blaed about http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last days so I can't give credits. Proposal: Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free desktop for all users. Let's try it! Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done! - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
That kind of misses the point of the experiment that Andre pointed to where you should made a big difference. http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html Stormy On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Lefty (石鏡 ) le...@shugendo.org wrote: One minor tweak, perhaps. I’m not so happy with the “You should”, myself, on two counts: “Donate! Become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for *all *users!” gets rid of two unnecessary words, and “should” for me has a connotation of obligation, and invites me to think “Well, I know I *should*, but...” They know they’re “you”; don’t tell ‘em what they *should* do—they don’t do what they should do all day long, and so do I—tell ‘em what to *do*. (Also, I like a stress—italicized?--on the word “all”. There’s an important subtext in there, in terms of localization, of accessibility, etc. Maybe we’ll even get that gender-neutral-ish equal-opportunity-ish thing working sometime. Shoot me now.) On 7/21/09 3:20 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Correct grammar should be: Donate! You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all users. Sometimes it's the little things. :) Paul On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se wrote: On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters: Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or it could go in the title: Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME! Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/blaed about http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last days so I can't give credits. Proposal: Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free desktop for all users. Let's try it! Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done! - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
Sorry, my bad. I’m catching up with email after fighting off a post-Gran-Canaria bug. Inverse in-box problem, if you know what I mean. I sincerely apologize, and will endeavor not to repeat this irresponsible behavior in the future... =D On 7/21/09 3:45 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: That kind of misses the point of the experiment that Andre pointed to where you should made a big difference. http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html Stormy On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Lefty (石鏡 ) le...@shugendo.org wrote: One minor tweak, perhaps. I’m not so happy with the “You should”, myself, on two counts: “Donate! Become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all users!” gets rid of two unnecessary words, and “should” for me has a connotation of obligation, and invites me to think “Well, I know I should, but...” They know they’re “you”; don’t tell ‘em what they should do―they don’t do what they should do all day long, and so do I―tell ‘em what to do. (Also, I like a stress―italicized?--on the word “all”. There’s an important subtext in there, in terms of localization, of accessibility, etc. Maybe we’ll even get that gender-neutral-ish equal-opportunity-ish thing working sometime. Shoot me now.) On 7/21/09 3:20 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org http://pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Correct grammar should be: Donate!? You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all users. Sometimes it's the little things.? :) Paul On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se http://nisses.m...@home.se wrote: ? On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: ? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net http://ak...@gmx.net wrote: ? Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters: ? Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME or it could go in the title: Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME! ? ? Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/blaed about ?http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last days so I can't give credits. ? Proposal: Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free desktop for all users. Let's try it! ? ? Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done! - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
I can have a go at it. BTW how high were the donations in June? Did it go up? Jaap On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 18:46, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Who would like to be the Friends of GNOME maintainer? We've gotten a lot of feedback, especially on the subscription process. People would like to be able to: - choose their monthly amount - pick an annual subscription or a monthly subscription - pick dollars or euros And we've gotten feedback like: - the default amount should be at least $25 - make it easy to make a one time payment in your preferred amount And we need it to be easy to just pick the default and go without lots of choices overwhelming people. I'm not a usability expert, but obviously we can't just keep listing more and more options, we need to branch out into drop down lists, etc. Another complication is that Paypal doesn't allow variable amounts, so we will have to create a Paypal subscription for every option we offer. Rosanna and I can help with that part. Would somebody like to take on the challenge? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
