Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
On 01/14/2011 05:57 AM, Jason Lo wrote: I got some more info from China, and I received some really good contact info updates from Bangalore. I will update the wiki page accordingly. Hi! I'm curious as to what feedback you got from the Bangalore group: we're currently preparing for both a GNOME 3.0 hackfest and the 4th edition of GNOME.Asia summit, their website has been down for quite some time and when asking 'around' it seems they have nothing going on. We also discovered a 'GNOME India' at http://gnome-in.sarovar.org/, so I believe all in all it's a great opportunity to wake up all those people and inject them with fresh blood. Please let us know if you know more than we do. Thanks. Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Thanks Jason! Let's see how many replies you get. How're things looking at this stage? Cheers, Dave. Jason Lo wrote: I have sent an email to every user group with a main contact listed. I will send an email to the gugmasters list soon. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Oh - and, fwiw: as a mamber of GNOME France, I have not heard anything about your request, and as a member of guigmasters, I didn't see any email from you there yet. Cheers, Dave. Jason Lo wrote: So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
I got some more info from China, and I received some really good contact info updates from Bangalore. I will update the wiki page accordingly. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Thanks Jason! Let's see how many replies you get. How're things looking at this stage? Cheers, Dave. Jason Lo wrote: I have sent an email to every user group with a main contact listed. I will send an email to the gugmasters list soon. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Oh - and, fwiw: as a mamber of GNOME France, I have not heard anything about your request, and as a member of guigmasters, I didn't see any email from you there yet. Cheers, Dave. Jason Lo wrote: So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Heya, On 07.01.2011 06:07, Jason Lo wrote: Hi, just an update. I've sent emails to Gnome [...] Deutschland so far, and am waiting for replies. Where have you sent the mail to Germany to? I can't find it in the archives for gnome-de http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-de/2011-January/thread.html. Cheers, Tobi signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
I sent it to the main contact listed. If I don't get a reply soon, I'll try the mailing list. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.dewrote: Heya, On 07.01.2011 06:07, Jason Lo wrote: Hi, just an update. I've sent emails to Gnome [...] Deutschland so far, and am waiting for replies. Where have you sent the mail to Germany to? I can't find it in the archives for gnome-de http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-de/2011-January/thread.html. Cheers, Tobi -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
I have sent an email to every user group with a main contact listed. I will send an email to the gugmasters list soon. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Oh - and, fwiw: as a mamber of GNOME France, I have not heard anything about your request, and as a member of guigmasters, I didn't see any email from you there yet. Cheers, Dave. Jason Lo wrote: So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Oh - and, fwiw: as a mamber of GNOME France, I have not heard anything about your request, and as a member of guigmasters, I didn't see any email from you there yet. Cheers, Dave. Jason Lo wrote: So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Concerning France, it seems that I had forgotten to email it's group/contact for some reason. I will get on to it. Concerning the gugmasters group, I will email there once I have sent to all of the individual groups. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Oh - and, fwiw: as a mamber of GNOME France, I have not heard anything about your request, and as a member of guigmasters, I didn't see any email from you there yet. Cheers, Dave. Jason Lo wrote: So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
On 01/11/2011 12:22 PM, Jason Lo wrote: So I'm still doing this task. I'm sorry I haven't sent any updates in the last two days, I was quite busy. So far I've emailed about half of the list, and have only gotten info from China and Brazil. I've gotten updated contact info from them and estimated member populations. Also, GNOME Brazil had a meetup recently (which I have added to the wiki), and GNOME China is trying to open up a store, if I read correctly. And I just noticed that technically the GCI thing finished, so I can't get credit for this task. Oh well, I'll still follow it through; I'd feel like a jerk if I were to just drop it, especially seeing the other two students who did just go and drop it, heh. More updates soon! -- Jason From what I know, both the Beijing and Taiwan GUG meet monthly (Taiwan GUG meeting has been in Taipei so far). Fred -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Hi Jason, To get around Melange's funky feature set, can you please resubmit this update plus a link to the wiki page as Work submitted? I will then be able to extend the deadline for you. Thanks! Dave. Jason Lo wrote: Hi, just an update. I've sent emails to Gnome Australia, Brazil, Chicago, Chile, China, and Deutschland so far, and am waiting for replies. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Jason Lo wrote: It seems to fit more with contact addresses. You said to a previous student that there were others doing this task as well, and that I should coordinate my efforts with them to make sure we don't pester the same folks over and over again. Also, in your post on GCI, you said you would provide emails that I could send this to. There is the gugmasters list: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list - but I think if you mail the list, you will not get a good response rate. Worth trying - but if you don't get a good response rate, we can try send an email to each member individually. Perhaps I could do it on your behalf... The other contacts are those in this wiki page. The list of lists you point to is OK, but bear in mind that mailing a list is hit miss at best. You might get a better response rate by sending an email to the Contact field, if it's set. The French one is definitely out of date, though :) You should contact Vincent Untz instead. There is also a GNOME developing world list: developing-world-list - I don't really know who's on it. You will need to be persistent, and make sure you keep us posted on what groups you have information for, and which you don't, when information starts coming in. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org -- Jason -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Hi, just an update. I've sent emails to Gnome Australia, Brazil, Chicago, Chile, China, and Deutschland so far, and am waiting for replies. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Jason Lo wrote: It seems to fit more with contact addresses. You said to a previous student that there were others doing this task as well, and that I should coordinate my efforts with them to make sure we don't pester the same folks over and over again. Also, in your post on GCI, you said you would provide emails that I could send this to. There is the gugmasters list: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list - but I think if you mail the list, you will not get a good response rate. Worth trying - but if you don't get a good response rate, we can try send an email to each member individually. Perhaps I could do it on your behalf... The other contacts are those in this wiki page. The list of lists you point to is OK, but bear in mind that mailing a list is hit miss at best. You might get a better response rate by sending an email to the Contact field, if it's set. The French one is definitely out of date, though :) You should contact Vincent Untz instead. There is also a GNOME developing world list: developing-world-list - I don't really know who's on it. You will need to be persistent, and make sure you keep us posted on what groups you have information for, and which you don't, when information starts coming in. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
It seems to fit more with contact addresses. You said to a previous student that there were others doing this task as well, and that I should coordinate my efforts with them to make sure we don't pester the same folks over and over again. Also, in your post on GCI, you said you would provide emails that I could send this to. And I apologize in advance if my updates are a bit more sparse: school is starting up in my area again. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Hi, Jason Lo wrote: It seems to fit more with contact addresses. You said to a previous student that there were others doing this task as well, and that I should coordinate my efforts with them to make sure we don't pester the same folks over and over again. Also, in your post on GCI, you said you would provide emails that I could send this to. There is the gugmasters list: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list - but I think if you mail the list, you will not get a good response rate. Worth trying - but if you don't get a good response rate, we can try send an email to each member individually. Perhaps I could do it on your behalf... The other contacts are those in this wiki page. The list of lists you point to is OK, but bear in mind that mailing a list is hit miss at best. You might get a better response rate by sending an email to the Contact field, if it's set. The French one is definitely out of date, though :) You should contact Vincent Untz instead. There is also a GNOME developing world list: developing-world-list - I don't really know who's on it. You will need to be persistent, and make sure you keep us posted on what groups you have information for, and which you don't, when information starts coming in. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Hi, Jason Lo wrote: I went and added a subsection with an email template based off Dave's. Any comments or suggestions? The one suggestion I have is to start really small - ask them to reply saying that they got your mail are still involved in the GUG, and if not to help redirect you. You can always follow up afterwards to get more information on what the GUG does. The longer someone has to spend replying to your email, the lower the response rate. And then, IMHO, it's good to go - could you perhaps let us know who you intend to email with this, please? It'd be good to know who it's going out to, whether they're mailing lists, contact@ addresses, or the names of people. Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Hello, my name is Jason Lo, and I have taken this GCI task ( http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/gnome/t129061755958#c16001). I was asked by Dave Neary to prepare an email to send out, but before I do that, I'd like to ask to some questions. Namely, what should the overall tone and content of this email be? And also, should I mention that I am a GCI student, and should I even go as far as to mention the two previous students that tried to undertake this task, maybe in a sort of apologetic tone? Thanks. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Hi Jason, Jason Lo wrote: Namely, what should the overall tone and content of this email be? Informal and short. Hi! I know you've been bothered a couple of times with this already, but I'm helping update which GNOME user groups are active and what you're up to, and I'd really appreciate a quick answer from you, since you're listed as a contact for GNOME user group name. Can you let me know if you're still involved with the GUG? If not, can you let me know who is now the main contact for the GUG, please? And also, should I mention that I am a GCI student, and should I even go as far as to mention the two previous students that tried to undertake this task, maybe in a sort of apologetic tone? Thanks. I definitely think that a somewhat apologetic tone is appropriate. Also, describing what GCI is, and the task as defined there, at the end of your mail, might help smooth things over too. I suspect many GNOME User Group people don't really know what GCI is. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Am Montag, den 03.01.2011, 17:40 +0100 schrieb Dave Neary: Can you let me know if you're still involved with the GUG? If not, can you let me know who is now the main contact for the GUG, please? This assumes that the GUG has a leader, however I have the feeling that some GUGs listed are just mailing lists without a defined internal hierarchy? andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
I agree with Dave Neary's points. I also think showing that you are going to follow up and record the information might encourage people to take your request seriously. Maybe create the wiki page beforehand and populate it with all the information you have? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: This assumes that the GUG has a leader, however I have the feeling that some GUGs listed are just mailing lists without a defined internal hierarchy? Maybe one piece of information is how many people are signed up on the mailing list and how active it is, i.e. how many mails/month? The sys admin team can probably help gather any information that's not public (like number of people on the list). Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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I went and added a subsection with an email template based off Dave's. Any comments or suggestions? http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups#Template_Email On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I agree with Dave Neary's points. I also think showing that you are going to follow up and record the information might encourage people to take your request seriously. Maybe create the wiki page beforehand and populate it with all the information you have? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: This assumes that the GUG has a leader, however I have the feeling that some GUGs listed are just mailing lists without a defined internal hierarchy? Maybe one piece of information is how many people are signed up on the mailing list and how active it is, i.e. how many mails/month? The sys admin team can probably help gather any information that's not public (like number of people on the list). Stormy -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction
Excellent! Great to see this task moving as it should be an important piece of our marketing and outreach efforts. I would replace open source by free and open source to make the email more inclusive, especially since GNOME is part of the GNU project (www.gnome.org/about/ ). If you need any help getting 'faster' responses with the GUGs in Asia please let me know as this is an area where I should be able to help. Thank you very much for your time and commitment. Fred On 01/04/2011 09:05 AM, Jason Lo wrote: I went and added a subsection with an email template based off Dave's. Any comments or suggestions? http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups#Template_Email On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org wrote: I agree with Dave Neary's points. I also think showing that you are going to follow up and record the information might encourage people to take your request seriously. Maybe create the wiki page beforehand and populate it with all the information you have? On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net mailto:ak...@gmx.net wrote: This assumes that the GUG has a leader, however I have the feeling that some GUGs listed are just mailing lists without a defined internal hierarchy? Maybe one piece of information is how many people are signed up on the mailing list and how active it is, i.e. how many mails/month? The sys admin team can probably help gather any information that's not public (like number of people on the list). Stormy -- Jason -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
