Re: GSM

2010-08-04 Thread Juanjo Marín


--- El mar, 3/8/10, Nathan Willis nwil...@glyphography.com escribió:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:




On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:




Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 12:26 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:

 I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the

 GNOME Software Map



Can you please elaborate on the term Software map?



The project used to maintain a list of Gnome software back in the day, but it 
fell into dis-use and Eugenia's http://gnome-files.org/ kind of became the new 
software map.  There was at one point some work afoot to either make 
gnome-files an official software map or someone was going to make another 
website to replace.  It possibly might have been some work rolled into the new 
Gnome website.  (is that done yet?)



There is also a list at projects.gnome.org -- what is the status of that one?

The footer says it is maintained by Christian Schaller, but that could 
obviously be out-of-date, too.  Certainly, I think, the link at the top of that 
page to the now-absent software map could stand to be removed.



Well, I've realised that Nanny, the Gnome Parental Control tool is a recent 
project so it has been added recently. However I don't think that with this we 
can say this page is properly maintained :)

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Re: GSM

2010-08-04 Thread Juanjo Marín


--- El lun, 2/8/10, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me escribió:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:


Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 12:26 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:

 I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the

 GNOME Software Map



Can you please elaborate on the term Software map?



The project used to maintain a list of Gnome software back in the day, but it 
fell into dis-use and Eugenia's http://gnome-files.org/ kind of became the new 
software map.  There was at one point some work afoot to either make 
gnome-files an official software map or someone was going to make another 
website to replace.  It possibly might have been some work rolled into the new 
Gnome website.  (is that done yet?)


I think we had discussed some portal similar to the android marketplace where 
we can highlight these applications but that will require some significant 
resources.  Probably something we should target for Gnome OS (4.0).  


sri
I think Sri is talking about the Jon McCann proposal about GNOME OS in his 
Shell Yes ! talk at GUADEC. [1]

Another talk with a proposal for a sort-of GNOME Market at GUADEC was Alberto 
Ruiz GNOME's next place in the industry [2]. He talk about a Federated GNOME 
Application Marketplace [3].

The creation of a GNOME Marketplace seems to be an action with a lot of 
marketing sense and these talks at GUADEC shows, at least, some intererest in 
the community, but as Sri stated, it seems to be a resource consuming task that 
involves both technical and human resources.

IMHO, I think it is worth some discussion about this.

Just my 2 cents,

    -- Juanjo Marin

Links:
[1] http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2010/08/01/shell-yes/
[2] http://www.guadec.org/index.php/guadec/2010/paper/view/106
[3] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjmarin/4839518833/



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Re: GSM

2010-08-04 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.eswrote:



 --- El *lun, 2/8/10, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me* escribió:

 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Andre Klapper 
 ak...@gmx.nethttp://mc/compose?to=ak...@gmx.net
  wrote:

 Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 12:26 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:
  I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the
  GNOME Software Map

 Can you please elaborate on the term Software map?


 The project used to maintain a list of Gnome software back in the day, but
 it fell into dis-use and Eugenia's http://gnome-files.org/ kind of became
 the new software map.  There was at one point some work afoot to either make
 gnome-files an official software map or someone was going to make another
 website to replace.  It possibly might have been some work rolled into the
 new Gnome website.  (is that done yet?)

 I think we had discussed some portal similar to the android marketplace
 where we can highlight these applications but that will require some
 significant resources.  Probably something we should target for Gnome OS
 (4.0).

 sri

 I think Sri is talking about the Jon McCann proposal about GNOME OS in his
 Shell Yes ! talk at GUADEC. [1]


Yes, the GNOME OS (or GNOME 4.0) would be the time frame to have a
marketplace type.  If the GNOME website is any indication on when we can
roll out something like that it will take a couple of years unless of course
we can find some university student/volunteers who have time on their hands
to do this.

A generic code base to do a marketplace would be awesome if we had it.



 IMHO, I think it is worth some discussion about this.


In the meanwhile, you could do a the following in order to generate more
interest in GNOME apps and also perhaps make some money in the process:

1) good Gnome apps could be advertised using google ad sense to help drive
traffic.  For instance, with Banshee having their Amazon marketplace set up,
Gnome foundation could invest in some advertising since it can also run in
windows and if we get money from people's purchases that's going to be
great.

2) the video channel on youtube would be neat again.  I think that one is in
progress.  The idea there is to generate content that people can look at.
 I've seen some examples already of screencasts on planet that could go into
this channel.

3) GNOME Journal - more articles on apps is of course great.  With a focus
on family oriented apps.  A lot of us now have kids and I think we would
like to show the world how we can interact with our kids using Gnome.  We
really need to get out of the rut of silly special effects type utilization.
 That's not what people are looking for unless you're some teen.

As for the design of the marketplace, I envision we'd have some icon or
something on the shell that would sort of zoom you there (and I mean zoom
special effect.. really!)  Eventually, we'd move our video channel to the
market place, as well as the Gnome Journal.

I got other ideas.. although that will be another post.  But my idea would
be to approach tv vendors about using Gnome + shell as tv software.  Sony
for instance already runs Linux, let's hit them wtih the next level then
link the market place to the TV.  Think big.  Call them up.. make a
presentation.
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GSM

2010-08-02 Thread Nathan Willis
Hi everyone,

I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the GNOME
Software Map  Is it undergoing / slated to undergo revision?

Thanks,
Nate
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Re: GSM

2010-08-02 Thread Paul Cutler
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 12:26 -0500, Nathan Willis wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the
 GNOME Software Map  Is it undergoing / slated to undergo revision?
 
 Thanks,
 Nate
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Hi Nathan,

I don't believe anyone has worked on updating the Software Map in the
last 3 or 4 years.

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Re: GSM

2010-08-02 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 12:26 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:
 I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the
 GNOME Software Map 

Can you please elaborate on the term Software map?

Thanks,
andre
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Re: GSM

2010-08-02 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 12:26 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:
  I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the
  GNOME Software Map

 Can you please elaborate on the term Software map?


The project used to maintain a list of Gnome software back in the day, but
it fell into dis-use and Eugenia's http://gnome-files.org/ kind of became
the new software map.  There was at one point some work afoot to either make
gnome-files an official software map or someone was going to make another
website to replace.  It possibly might have been some work rolled into the
new Gnome website.  (is that done yet?)

I think we had discussed some portal similar to the android marketplace
where we can highlight these applications but that will require some
significant resources.  Probably something we should target for Gnome OS
(4.0).

sri
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Re: GSM

2010-08-02 Thread Nathan Willis
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:



 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 Am Montag, den 02.08.2010, 12:26 -0500 schrieb Nathan Willis:
  I was wondering if someone could tell me what the latest is with the
  GNOME Software Map

 Can you please elaborate on the term Software map?


 The project used to maintain a list of Gnome software back in the day, but
 it fell into dis-use and Eugenia's http://gnome-files.org/ kind of became
 the new software map.  There was at one point some work afoot to either make
 gnome-files an official software map or someone was going to make another
 website to replace.  It possibly might have been some work rolled into the
 new Gnome website.  (is that done yet?)


There is also a list at projects.gnome.org -- what is the status of that
one?

The footer says it is maintained by Christian Schaller, but that could
obviously be out-of-date, too.  Certainly, I think, the link at the top of
that page to the now-absent software map could stand to be removed.

Thanks,
Nate
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