Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi Stormy, I think I haven't replied yet but it sounds like a good idea to take the a11y proposals into consideration for the pre-conference. Papers-team, what do you think? Sense, or Crhistophe, can you grant me the rights to see the proposals? best, Sanne Stormy Peters schreef: Perhaps we could give all the core day a11y proposals to Sanne and he can approach them for the government summit as well. Stormy On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Op dinsdag 30-03-2010 om 16:11 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sanne te Meerman: Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried Really? I think something must be wrong. Eitan Isaacson said to me he submitted a paper about accessibility: http://monotonous.org/2010/03/23/accessibility-hackday/#comments There are several things getting conflated - Sanne is talking about an accessibility talk for the government summit he's been trying to put together. Eitan submitted a presentation proposal for the core days, which will be evaluated by the program committee. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-papers mailing list guadec-pap...@gnome.org mailto:guadec-pap...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-papers ___ guadec-papers mailing list guadec-pap...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-papers -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Or We could see if there is someone willing to organise an IDABC summit at GUADEC, and let them take care of it? Good idea. I've put Ismael Olea in the googledoc, any news from him yet? If there is, let me know, or put info in the doc I've shared with you. Cheers, Dave. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi Willie, Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried to contact Javier Martinez, but so far I have not received a reply. Could you connect us? I'm still very much interested. Thanks, Sanne Sanne te Meerman schreef: Wow, that's really great... the fact that a local organisation gets involved with software development from the bottom up is fantastic, but this is also great for marketing Open Source, a showcase for the added value of open source development. And for Gnome and Guadec this could also be very valuable. Thank you. Javier, if you're reading this, I'd love to hear more. Sanne Willie Walker schreef: Hi: The ONCE organization in Spain does a fair amount with GNOME and GNOME accessibility. I'm CC'ing Javier Martinez on this e-mail -- he's my primary contact with ONCE. Will Sanne te Meerman wrote: I've made this a new thread. (this time really, sorry Andre) Thanks Dave, If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know. thank you, Sanne Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector markets in Europe. Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also, as government sector users of GNOME. Chers, Dave. Stormy Peters schreef: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? Stormy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is experienced in this subject? thank you, Sanne te Meerman Guadec organisation Sanne te Meerman schreef: I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being off-topic, I've made a subthread. I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation. I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on accessibility and usability can draw attention for several reasons, in my opinion: -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important. Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with policymakers (more than technique) -Government is more inclined to have attention to these subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention and pressure to these issues. -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people. The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to more traditional ICT companies in this niche market. It might be good to have some sessions about usability and accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and targeting the government market, that someone can point me to. That would be helpful. thank you, Sanne te Meerman Brian Cameron schreef: Willie/Dave: It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of accessibility a bit more. For example, I think it would be nice to highlight something about the GNOME accessibility community. Perhaps something about the fact that a number of people with disabilities participate in development and in user forums. I think the promise of joining a community of people working to address accessibility usability issues is attractive to highlight. If that wouldn't make it too long, and you agree. Brian Thanks Dave! Something about the specialised hardware to interact with applications portion seems odd to me. In GNOME, we have a core value that people with disabilities have free compelling
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi Willie, Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried to contact Javier Martinez, but so far I have not received a reply. Could you connect us? I'm still very much interested. Thanks, Sanne Sanne te Meerman schreef: Wow, that's really great... the fact that a local organisation gets involved with software development from the bottom up is fantastic, but this is also great for marketing Open Source, a showcase for the added value of open source development. And for Gnome and Guadec this could also be very valuable. Thank you. Javier, if you're reading this, I'd love to hear more. Sanne Willie Walker schreef: Hi: The ONCE organization in Spain does a fair amount with GNOME and GNOME accessibility. I'm CC'ing Javier Martinez on this e-mail -- he's my primary contact with ONCE. Will Sanne te Meerman wrote: I've made this a new thread. (this time really, sorry Andre) Thanks Dave, If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know. thank you, Sanne Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector markets in Europe. Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also, as government sector users of GNOME. Chers, Dave. Stormy Peters schreef: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? Stormy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is experienced in this subject? thank you, Sanne te Meerman Guadec organisation Sanne te Meerman schreef: I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being off-topic, I've made a subthread. I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation. I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on accessibility and usability can draw attention for several reasons, in my opinion: -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important. Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with policymakers (more than technique) -Government is more inclined to have attention to these subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention and pressure to these issues. -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people. The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to more traditional ICT companies in this niche market. It might be good to have some sessions about usability and accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and targeting the government market, that someone can point me to. That would be helpful. thank you, Sanne te Meerman Brian Cameron schreef: Willie/Dave: It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of accessibility a bit more. For example, I think it would be nice to highlight something about the GNOME accessibility community. Perhaps something about the fact that a number of people with disabilities participate in development and in user forums. I think the promise of joining a community of people working to address accessibility usability issues is attractive to highlight. If that wouldn't make it too long, and you agree. Brian Thanks Dave! Something about the specialised hardware to interact with applications portion seems odd to me. In GNOME, we have a core value that people with disabilities have free
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Op dinsdag 30-03-2010 om 16:11 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sanne te Meerman: Hi Willie, Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried Really? I think something must be wrong. Eitan Isaacson said to me he submitted a paper about accessibility: http://monotonous.org/2010/03/23/accessibility-hackday/#comments Wow, that's really great... the fact that a local organisation gets involved with software development from the bottom up is fantastic, but this is also great for marketing Open Source, a showcase for the added value of open source development. And for Gnome and Guadec this could also be very valuable. Thank you. Javier, if you're reading this, I'd love to hear more. In NL we have Stichting Accessibility (www.accessibility.nl). I don't think they are very aware of Free Software at all, but that could change if we invite them. :-) regards, -- Reinout van Schouwen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Op dinsdag 30-03-2010 om 16:11 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sanne te Meerman: Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried Really? I think something must be wrong. Eitan Isaacson said to me he submitted a paper about accessibility: http://monotonous.org/2010/03/23/accessibility-hackday/#comments There are several things getting conflated - Sanne is talking about an accessibility talk for the government summit he's been trying to put together. Eitan submitted a presentation proposal for the core days, which will be evaluated by the program committee. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Perhaps we could give all the core day a11y proposals to Sanne and he can approach them for the government summit as well. Stormy On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: Op dinsdag 30-03-2010 om 16:11 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sanne te Meerman: Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried Really? I think something must be wrong. Eitan Isaacson said to me he submitted a paper about accessibility: http://monotonous.org/2010/03/23/accessibility-hackday/#comments There are several things getting conflated - Sanne is talking about an accessibility talk for the government summit he's been trying to put together. Eitan submitted a presentation proposal for the core days, which will be evaluated by the program committee. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ guadec-papers mailing list guadec-pap...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/guadec-papers -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: Perhaps we could give all the core day a11y proposals to Sanne and he can approach them for the government summit as well. Or We could see if there is someone willing to organise an IDABC summit at GUADEC, and let them take care of it? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi Sanne: Javier's e-mail is the only contact I have. :-( He may be in the process of moving, but I'm not sure. I'm CC'ing Peter Korn, however. He may have some contacts that you can use. Will On Mar 30, 2010, at 10:11 AM, Sanne te Meerman wrote: Hi Willie, Besides a practical comment from Andre Klapper, you were the only one who responded to my request for a talk about accessibility. I've tried to contact Javier Martinez, but so far I have not received a reply. Could you connect us? I'm still very much interested. Thanks, Sanne Sanne te Meerman schreef: Wow, that's really great... the fact that a local organisation gets involved with software development from the bottom up is fantastic, but this is also great for marketing Open Source, a showcase for the added value of open source development. And for Gnome and Guadec this could also be very valuable. Thank you. Javier, if you're reading this, I'd love to hear more. Sanne Willie Walker schreef: Hi: The ONCE organization in Spain does a fair amount with GNOME and GNOME accessibility. I'm CC'ing Javier Martinez on this e-mail -- he's my primary contact with ONCE. Will Sanne te Meerman wrote: I've made this a new thread. (this time really, sorry Andre) Thanks Dave, If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know. thank you, Sanne Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector markets in Europe. Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also, as government sector users of GNOME. Chers, Dave. Stormy Peters schreef: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? Stormy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is experienced in this subject? thank you, Sanne te Meerman Guadec organisation Sanne te Meerman schreef: I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being off-topic, I've made a subthread. I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation. I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on accessibility and usability can draw attention for several reasons, in my opinion: -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important. Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with policymakers (more than technique) -Government is more inclined to have attention to these subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention and pressure to these issues. -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people. The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to more traditional ICT companies in this niche market. It might be good to have some sessions about usability and accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and targeting the government market, that someone can point me to. That would be helpful. thank you, Sanne te Meerman Brian Cameron schreef: Willie/Dave: It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of accessibility a bit more. For example, I think it would be nice to highlight something about the GNOME accessibility community. Perhaps something about the fact that a number of people with disabilities participate in development and in user forums. I think the promise of joining a community of people working to address accessibility usability issues is attractive to highlight. If that
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Wow, that's really great... the fact that a local organisation gets involved with software development from the bottom up is fantastic, but this is also great for marketing Open Source, a showcase for the added value of open source development. And for Gnome and Guadec this could also be very valuable. Thank you. Javier, if you're reading this, I'd love to hear more. Sanne Willie Walker schreef: Hi: The ONCE organization in Spain does a fair amount with GNOME and GNOME accessibility. I'm CC'ing Javier Martinez on this e-mail -- he's my primary contact with ONCE. Will Sanne te Meerman wrote: I've made this a new thread. (this time really, sorry Andre) Thanks Dave, If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know. thank you, Sanne Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector markets in Europe. Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also, as government sector users of GNOME. Chers, Dave. Stormy Peters schreef: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? Stormy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is experienced in this subject? thank you, Sanne te Meerman Guadec organisation Sanne te Meerman schreef: I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being off-topic, I've made a subthread. I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation. I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on accessibility and usability can draw attention for several reasons, in my opinion: -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important. Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with policymakers (more than technique) -Government is more inclined to have attention to these subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention and pressure to these issues. -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people. The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to more traditional ICT companies in this niche market. It might be good to have some sessions about usability and accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and targeting the government market, that someone can point me to. That would be helpful. thank you, Sanne te Meerman Brian Cameron schreef: Willie/Dave: It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of accessibility a bit more. For example, I think it would be nice to highlight something about the GNOME accessibility community. Perhaps something about the fact that a number of people with disabilities participate in development and in user forums. I think the promise of joining a community of people working to address accessibility usability issues is attractive to highlight. If that wouldn't make it too long, and you agree. Brian Thanks Dave! Something about the specialised hardware to interact with applications portion seems odd to me. In GNOME, we have a core value that people with disabilities have free compelling access to the graphical desktop and web. GNOME accomplishes this with full keyboard access, theming, and an industry leading accessibility infrastructure that is used by built-in assistive technologies including a screen reader, magnifier, and
Gnome/Guadec and Government market
I've made this a new thread. Thanks Dave, If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know. thank you, Sanne Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector markets in Europe. Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also, as government sector users of GNOME. Chers, Dave. Stormy Peters schreef: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? Stormy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is experienced in this subject? thank you, Sanne te Meerman Guadec organisation Sanne te Meerman schreef: I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being off-topic, I've made a subthread. I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation. I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on accessibility and usability can draw attention for several reasons, in my opinion: -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important. Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with policymakers (more than technique) -Government is more inclined to have attention to these subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention and pressure to these issues. -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people. The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to more traditional ICT companies in this niche market. It might be good to have some sessions about usability and accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and targeting the government market, that someone can point me to. That would be helpful. thank you, Sanne te Meerman Brian Cameron schreef: Willie/Dave: It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of accessibility a bit more. For example, I think it would be nice to highlight something about the GNOME accessibility community. Perhaps something about the fact that a number of people with disabilities participate in development and in user forums. I think the promise of joining a community of people working to address accessibility usability issues is attractive to highlight. If that wouldn't make it too long, and you agree. Brian Thanks Dave! Something about the specialised hardware to interact with applications portion seems odd to me. In GNOME, we have a core value that people with disabilities have free compelling access to the graphical desktop and web. GNOME accomplishes this with full keyboard access, theming, and an industry leading accessibility infrastructure that is used by built-in assistive technologies including a screen reader, magnifier, and on screen keyboard. With a model of built in versus bolted on, GNOME not only has free compelling accessibility today, but it also provides a rich and stable base for future accessibility work. or... (I just took my first stab at this and added by people with disabilities to the first sentence): In GNOME, accessibility by people with disabilities is a core value that touches all aspects of the system. With a model of built in versus bolted on, the GNOME Accessibility project has
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Am Donnerstag, den 17.12.2009, 19:07 +0100 schrieb Sanne te Meerman: I've made this a new thread. No you didn't, as you clicked Reply instead of writing a new mail to the list. Hence this is still in the same Thread in my Inbox and will mix with the other thread this came from... :-/ See the References: section in your message header. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Gnome/Guadec and Government market
I've made this a new thread. (this time really, sorry Andre) Thanks Dave, If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know. thank you, Sanne Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector markets in Europe. Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also, as government sector users of GNOME. Chers, Dave. Stormy Peters schreef: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? Stormy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is experienced in this subject? thank you, Sanne te Meerman Guadec organisation Sanne te Meerman schreef: I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being off-topic, I've made a subthread. I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation. I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on accessibility and usability can draw attention for several reasons, in my opinion: -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important. Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with policymakers (more than technique) -Government is more inclined to have attention to these subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention and pressure to these issues. -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people. The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to more traditional ICT companies in this niche market. It might be good to have some sessions about usability and accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and targeting the government market, that someone can point me to. That would be helpful. thank you, Sanne te Meerman Brian Cameron schreef: Willie/Dave: It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of accessibility a bit more. For example, I think it would be nice to highlight something about the GNOME accessibility community. Perhaps something about the fact that a number of people with disabilities participate in development and in user forums. I think the promise of joining a community of people working to address accessibility usability issues is attractive to highlight. If that wouldn't make it too long, and you agree. Brian Thanks Dave! Something about the specialised hardware to interact with applications portion seems odd to me. In GNOME, we have a core value that people with disabilities have free compelling access to the graphical desktop and web. GNOME accomplishes this with full keyboard access, theming, and an industry leading accessibility infrastructure that is used by built-in assistive technologies including a screen reader, magnifier, and on screen keyboard. With a model of built in versus bolted on, GNOME not only has free compelling accessibility today, but it also provides a rich and stable base for future accessibility work. or... (I just took my first stab at this and added by people with disabilities to the first sentence): In GNOME, accessibility by people with disabilities is a core value that touches all aspects of the system. With a model of built in versus bolted on, the
Re: Gnome/Guadec and Government market
Hi: The ONCE organization in Spain does a fair amount with GNOME and GNOME accessibility. I'm CC'ing Javier Martinez on this e-mail -- he's my primary contact with ONCE. Will Sanne te Meerman wrote: I've made this a new thread. (this time really, sorry Andre) Thanks Dave, If these companies could connect with the public sector during or before Guadec, the involvement of public sector and the mentioned companies will be more attractive for both. Do you have names/ emails of i.e. persons responsible for marketing open source related products at these companies? Or maybe someone from Novell/RH/Mandriva is listening? That would be a good start. Their participation in shaping a meeting of some sort would give me something to 'brag about' at public sector. I've had some contacts in spain in the past, I'll look through my emails for that. Again, if someone from Extremadura is involved with Gnome, let me know. thank you, Sanne Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? I believe that Novell, Red Hat and Mandriva all target public sector markets in Europe. Perhaps Extremadura and Andalucia would be good contacts for Sanne also, as government sector users of GNOME. Chers, Dave. Stormy Peters schreef: I don't think there is anyone currently targeting governments but I think we need to do this. Anybody willing to help Sanne? Stormy On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Sanne te Meerman sa...@opensourceadvies.nl mailto:sa...@opensourceadvies.nl wrote: Hi, Repeated request: is there some information I'm unaware of about Gnome and targeting the government market? Or anyone who is experienced in this subject? thank you, Sanne te Meerman Guadec organisation Sanne te Meerman schreef: I've just subscibed to this mailinglist, so to avoid being off-topic, I've made a subthread. I was immediately triggered by this subject and conversation. I am trying to involve Dutch national governemnt with Guadec (I'm part of the dutch team of organisers). Focus on accessibility and usability can draw attention for several reasons, in my opinion: -attention on policy issues instead of technique is important. Accessibility and usability are issues that ring with policymakers (more than technique) -Government is more inclined to have attention to these subjects than i.e. companies because of political attention and pressure to these issues. -the bottom-up development of open source might be the best way to connect with the personal itches of disabled people. The industry involved therefore might have an advantage to more traditional ICT companies in this niche market. It might be good to have some sessions about usability and accesebility during Guadec. I will propose that. Any other suggestions? Maybe there is some documentation about Gnome and targeting the government market, that someone can point me to. That would be helpful. thank you, Sanne te Meerman Brian Cameron schreef: Willie/Dave: It might also be nice to highlight the humanitarian aspects of accessibility a bit more. For example, I think it would be nice to highlight something about the GNOME accessibility community. Perhaps something about the fact that a number of people with disabilities participate in development and in user forums. I think the promise of joining a community of people working to address accessibility usability issues is attractive to highlight. If that wouldn't make it too long, and you agree. Brian Thanks Dave! Something about the specialised hardware to interact with applications portion seems odd to me. In GNOME, we have a core value that people with disabilities have free compelling access to the graphical desktop and web. GNOME accomplishes this with full keyboard access, theming, and an industry leading accessibility infrastructure that is used by built-in assistive technologies including a screen reader, magnifier, and on screen keyboard. With a model of built in versus bolted on, GNOME not only has free compelling accessibility today, but it also provides a rich and stable base for future accessibility work. or... (I just took my first stab at this and added by people with disabilities to the first sentence):
