marketing meeting minutes
Here are the minutes for today's marketing meeting. Thanks to Fabiana for doing the minutes! https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing2013 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting minutes
Hi Sri, Thanks for sending those out. The actual URL, though, is this one: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/09APR2013 Fabiana On 04/09/2013 06:36 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Here are the minutes for today's marketing meeting. Thanks to Fabiana for doing the minutes! https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing2013 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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yep I sent a correction mail. Sorry about that. sri On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Sri, Thanks for sending those out. The actual URL, though, is this one: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/09APR2013 Fabiana On 04/09/2013 06:36 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Here are the minutes for today's marketing meeting. Thanks to Fabiana for doing the minutes! https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/Marketing2013 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Jan 22 Marketing Meeting Minutes
Bonjour, thanks for the minutes! Really handy. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 01:15:13PM -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Propaganda: *Andreas has a t-shirt and flyer on our privacy campaign are ready for FOSDEM. https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/t-shirts/fosdem2013.png Oh, cool. Anything I can help with? I.e. providing an address to send the shirts to. For how much are we going to sell these? It's been 15 EUR fuer non-member and 10 EUR for members IIRC. I inted to print a few sheets with the T-Shirt price. https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/flyers/privacy-flyer.png Can you update the PDF in that repository? Otherwise I will use the current one on https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/flyers/privacy-flyer.pdf and try to print it. Bonuspoints if you can provide me a PDF that I can just hand to my DIN A4 printer. Venue for Party: We are going back to the original venue - La Bécasse - Fred Peters and Guillaume Desmottes are the organizer. I would like to have something printed out for that and hang it i.e. on the wall behind our booth. I'll try to create something but as I am artistically challenged, I'd appreciate if someone could mash something together. Maybe even something machine readable like a barcode to help the people finding it. Activities at the booth: Possible entertainment that involves user participation at the booth? * Nerf basketball * Love/Hate wall - put postits on what people like about GNOME and what you don't. Hm. I like the wall as a means for the users to provide feedback. So far, we didn't really do anything with the wall though so it's actively lying to the people using the wall. But has anyone committed to managing the wall? I plan to buy some duck tape, rope and other consumables, so I can probably get some sticky notes, too. But we would still need smth wally to stick the notes on. Cheers, Tobi -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Jan 22 Marketing Meeting Minutes
Attendees: Sri, Allan, Karen, Emily, Fabiana, Joseph, Andreas, Flavia Topics: * Fosdem Booth staffing: * +1 to Emily, who committed to spending time at the booth. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Standhttps://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Stand#attendees #attendees https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Stand#attendees We have some holes in coverage so we should try to look for opportunities to fill the hole. ACTION: Karen will email the foundations list. Propaganda: *Andreas has a t-shirt and flyer on our privacy campaign are ready for FOSDEM. https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/t-shirts/fosdem2013.png Final work should be done by tomorrow. Our time is growing short in order to put in the order. https://raw.github.com/gnome-design-team/gnome-marketing/master/flyers/privacy-flyer.png Flier is complete, and all attendees have approved the design and text. Venue for Party: We are going back to the original venue - La Bécasse - Fred Peters and Guillaume Desmottes are the organizer. Activities at the booth: Possible entertainment that involves user participation at the booth? * Nerf basketball * Love/Hate wall - put postits on what people like about GNOME and what you don't. * Friends of GNOME * Possible interviews that would support the FoG. * Putting together our own privacy policy and then advertising it. Every once in awhile report on it. Communicate this is what we want to be, even though we are not there yet. Reflect some of our current practices and as the technical part improves we can elaborate on it. Biggest concern is are we doing enough for the people who signed up that they feel good about contributing to GNOME. The impression right now is that we are not doign a great job of that right now. There is some agreement with that. We are trying to improve, Tobias has sent thank you cards to people who have contributed. We are hoping that the contractor that we are working with will alleviate this issue. Nobody should be dropped and not get the t-shirt or not get acknowledged when they contributed money. How should we be addressing? Have a newsletter? How often? Quarterly? Monthly. Allan doesn't think it has to be regular, it could be done at certain points of time or interest. We can time it with a hackfest and put out a comment where we thank contributors for making this happen so that they know what events they are funding. ACTION: Allan and Karen will talk with Bastian and Matthias to see where we are with the privacy controls. Things like privacy mode in Web would be great. ACTION: Sri will try to find other people to help volunteer. * Annual Report 2012 We really need to get going on the annual report. Dave Neary is right that we need to get the right people to write the right articles. Last year was tough because we relied on a committee of three. (It did get done!) https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-December/msg0.html ACTION: Karen and Emily working on a wiki page to plan writing content. Andreas is happy to contribute articles. Having more people contribute the easier this task will be to complete. * Communication with the release team They usually have meetings in IRC, but they are having a Face 2 Face meeting at FOSDEM. Would be great if someone could send the minutes from that meeting to the marketing meeting. We could also invite some of the release team members to marketing list? * Follow up on action items from the last meeting ACTION: Andreas to check with Alberto if Healtcheck can be done for all modules. ACTION Andreas to look into creating materials for FOSDEM (DONE) ACTION: Emily to post on the Forums (on going) * Going to post a call for help on the annual report. ACTION: Karen will work on a general privacy statement from GNOME (on going) ACTION: Andreas to look at design area of forums as well as re-doign their theme * waiting on a proposal so that they have something to switch. ACTION: Karen to setup regular call with release and marketing teams to better coordinate messaging with releases (cancelled - Allan was talking to release team in particpating.. we should meet with them prior to any big decisions) ACTION: Karen will open up a dialogue for more formal communication between release team and marketing team. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting Minutes
Thanks for the minutes, Emily. Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Emily: Privacy/Security Pros: Buzz creation, something different and important to virtually everyone Cons: how to implement privacy and security in gnome design ... I would much prefer that we focus on privacy and not security. Privacy as a concept is something that people can relate to, and would be a stronger campaign on its own, in my opinion. - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense, but it will need more research before we can make a decision. Allan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689339 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Hi, On 11/30/2012 12:20 PM, Allan Day wrote: - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense, but it will need more research before we can make a decision. I assume everyone has heard about this by now? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/tor-operator-charged-for-child-porn-transmitted-over-his-servers/ Tor will be a big battleground over the next year - with all sorts of repercussions for Net Neutrality, privacy on the net and the ability to avoid tracking, versus law enforcement and facilitation of illegal activity. I would be very happy to see GNOME take a strong stance in defence of personal liberty and freedom from tracking - I think there's a huge opportunity for us to team up with groups like Mozilla and EFF, who are thinking a lot about the issue of tracking on the web, and make a group effort to defend projects like Tor against persecution by law enforcement, with the end result of a practical erosion of our freedoms. The frame is being set - if you're for Tor you're for child pornography. We cannot allow the message to be set in this way, we need to tell another story, one of Big Brother and protecting our children from predators on the internet with projects like ghostery and collusion: http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_kovacs_tracking_the_trackers.html Who's with me? Should we reach out to Gary Kovacs and others at Mozilla and EFF to see if we can't help create an Alliance for Personal Internet Liberty? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 11/30/2012 12:20 PM, Allan Day wrote: - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense, but it will need more research before we can make a decision. I assume everyone has heard about this by now? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/tor-operator-charged-for-child-porn-transmitted-over-his-servers/ Tor will be a big battleground over the next year - with all sorts of repercussions for Net Neutrality, privacy on the net and the ability to avoid tracking, versus law enforcement and facilitation of illegal activity. I would be very happy to see GNOME take a strong stance in defence of personal liberty and freedom from tracking - I think there's a huge opportunity for us to team up with groups like Mozilla and EFF, who are thinking a lot about the issue of tracking on the web, and make a group effort to defend projects like Tor against persecution by law enforcement, with the end result of a practical erosion of our freedoms. The frame is being set - if you're for Tor you're for child pornography. We cannot allow the message to be set in this way, we need to tell another story, one of Big Brother and protecting our children from predators on the internet with projects like ghostery and collusion: http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_kovacs_tracking_the_trackers.html Who's with me? Should we reach out to Gary Kovacs and others at Mozilla and EFF to see if we can't help create an Alliance for Personal Internet Liberty? Cheers, Dave. I'm with you 100% Dave! I would love to see us partner with Tor, EFF, Mozilla, etc on such a project to speak out and show how we are working to protect our and everyone elses' freedoms online. We could make the FoG Campaign about Freedom Privacy Online which is what we are really talking about. The biggest 'disadvantage' to Tor as I understand it comes from the hit you take in overall network performance, which can be considerable, and is highly variable depending on the speeds you get through the nodes Tor chooses. If you get unlucky and hit a node run by somebody with a crappy connection like me, it can be considerable :) But sometimes the privacy it provides trumps the hit in speed you take - and for many people who are 'just surfing around' its not a big deal. HTH! Emily -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting Minutes
Hi, On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 11/30/2012 12:20 PM, Allan Day wrote: - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense, but it will need more research before we can make a decision. I assume everyone has heard about this by now? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/tor-operator-charged-for-child-porn-transmitted-over-his-servers/ Tor will be a big battleground over the next year - with all sorts of repercussions for Net Neutrality, privacy on the net and the ability to avoid tracking, versus law enforcement and facilitation of illegal activity. I would be very happy to see GNOME take a strong stance in defence of personal liberty and freedom from tracking - I think there's a huge opportunity for us to team up with groups like Mozilla and EFF, who are thinking a lot about the issue of tracking on the web, and make a group effort to defend projects like Tor against persecution by law enforcement, with the end result of a practical erosion of our freedoms. The frame is being set - if you're for Tor you're for child pornography. We cannot allow the message to be set in this way, we need to tell another story, one of Big Brother and protecting our children from predators on the internet with projects like ghostery and collusion: http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_kovacs_tracking_the_trackers.html I think you need to be pretty careful about how you word these kinds of statements. If you are trying to take on the task of countering a case that includes such serious charges you really need to also partner with organizations that have substantial credibility and are known for defending people who are being wrongfully charged (the ACLU comes to mind, although they are seen in some circles as being partisan). Otherwise you run the risk of looking like an organization that defends freedom at all costs. I don't think the EFF is well known enough to stand that test, at least in the United States. Who's with me? Should we reach out to Gary Kovacs and others at Mozilla and EFF to see if we can't help create an Alliance for Personal Internet Liberty? Meg Ford Cheers, Dave. I'm with you 100% Dave! I would love to see us partner with Tor, EFF, Mozilla, etc on such a project to speak out and show how we are working to protect our and everyone elses' freedoms online. We could make the FoG Campaign about Freedom Privacy Online which is what we are really talking about. The biggest 'disadvantage' to Tor as I understand it comes from the hit you take in overall network performance, which can be considerable, and is highly variable depending on the speeds you get through the nodes Tor chooses. If you get unlucky and hit a node run by somebody with a crappy connection like me, it can be considerable :) But sometimes the privacy it provides trumps the hit in speed you take - and for many people who are 'just surfing around' its not a big deal. HTH! Emily -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting Minutes
On Fri, November 30, 2012 8:26 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 11/30/2012 12:20 PM, Allan Day wrote: - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. I've had a bit of a think about Tor integration from a design point of view, and have filed a bug [1] against Settings. It could make sense, but it will need more research before we can make a decision. I assume everyone has heard about this by now? http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/11/tor-operator-charged-for-child-porn-transmitted-over-his-servers/ Tor will be a big battleground over the next year - with all sorts of repercussions for Net Neutrality, privacy on the net and the ability to avoid tracking, versus law enforcement and facilitation of illegal activity. I would be very happy to see GNOME take a strong stance in defence of personal liberty and freedom from tracking - I think there's a huge opportunity for us to team up with groups like Mozilla and EFF, who are thinking a lot about the issue of tracking on the web, and make a group effort to defend projects like Tor against persecution by law enforcement, with the end result of a practical erosion of our freedoms. The frame is being set - if you're for Tor you're for child pornography. We cannot allow the message to be set in this way, we need to tell another story, one of Big Brother and protecting our children from predators on the internet with projects like ghostery and collusion: http://www.ted.com/talks/gary_kovacs_tracking_the_trackers.html Who's with me? Should we reach out to Gary Kovacs and others at Mozilla and EFF to see if we can't help create an Alliance for Personal Internet Liberty? Cheers, Dave. I'm with you 100% Dave! I would love to see us partner with Tor, EFF, Mozilla, etc on such a project to speak out and show how we are working to protect our and everyone elses' freedoms online. We could make the FoG Campaign about Freedom Privacy Online which is what we are really talking about. I'll reach out to EFF today - Tor works closely with them - to see if they have anything in the works we can partner on! karen The biggest 'disadvantage' to Tor as I understand it comes from the hit you take in overall network performance, which can be considerable, and is highly variable depending on the speeds you get through the nodes Tor chooses. If you get unlucky and hit a node run by somebody with a crappy connection like me, it can be considerable :) But sometimes the privacy it provides trumps the hit in speed you take - and for many people who are 'just surfing around' its not a big deal. HTH! Emily -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Marketing Meeting Minutes
Hi all! We had a marketing meeting on a conference call today, with a few also participating on IRC (mostly Xan, and Fabiana Andreas Nilson who had problems with connections -if I missed anyone sorry!!). Deindre also participated - I think both on the phone IRC though I'm not 100% on that :) These are my notes/minutes from the meeting. If anyone else has stuff to add please do so! Introductions: Sririam Ramkrishna Karen Sandler Emily Gonyer Oliver Propst Allan Day Fabiana Simões Seif Lotfy (mid meeting) Friends of GNOME: Olivier: Web/Webkit Pros: Web is very important today, and our in-house browser could use some love. Web applications are becoming more important, and making people excited about us via a great in-house browser could be a boost. Cons: Webkit2 features - relating to privacy/security how to tie into a broader campaign? Difficultly getting our message across without a lengthy period of figuring out our message. Emily: Privacy/Security Pros: Buzz creation, something different and important to virtually everyone Cons: how to implement privacy and security in gnome design Seif: Usability Pros: user involvement, online buzz, we care about users. Cons: it would be better to do at a later date for various reasons - Tentative agreement for Karen to reach out to the Tor Project (https://www.torproject.org) and others for a campaign related to Privacy and Security. We're also hoping to have bi-weekly meetings going forward, as we all thought this one went well. Emily -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
