Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-06-01 Thread Allan Day
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:
 The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is
 Tweetdeck. I'd be really happy to use that on a shared GNOME account.


 Hmmm, there seem to be a lot of proprietary solutions for this. But
hopefully we can do better - have you looked into tricklepost? Could that
work for what we need? I'll do some further digging too!

I had a look at Tricklepost, but it doesn't seem relevant. Have you
discovered anything useful?

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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-29 Thread Karen Sandler

On 2012-05-28 06:15, Allan Day wrote:

Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:
...

I really need a way to schedule
microblogging posts.

...

This leaves two options that I can see:

1. Change our workflow so that we publish posts on Twitter and push
them to Identi.ca from there. Then use a Twitter client with
scheduling capabilities.

2. Use the gnome.org Wordpress install to schedule microblogging 
posts

and push them to Twitter.

...
This sounds like a good plan to me - is it easy to use the Wordpress 
install
in that way? I think it would be worth the inconvenience to be able 
to do
this. I'm not a microblogger by nature, but it's really important we 
have
that kind of content out there (and I usually think of things to 
microblog

long after they're relevant, and think darn...)

...

I've tried a couple of Wordpress plugins for posting to Identi.ca, 
but
these are generally focused on sending updates when you publish a 
blog

post, and none of them really fitted the bill. Identi.ca itself does
have a feature that allows you to generate messages from an RSS/Atom
feed (which we could generate using Wordpress), but the feature isn't
working for me, for some reason.

I'm also starting to think that using Wordpress as a microblogging
platform is just wrong. :)

The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is
Tweetdeck. I'd be really happy to use that on a shared GNOME account.



Hmmm, there seem to be a lot of proprietary solutions for this. But 
hopefully we can do better - have you looked into tricklepost? Could 
that work for what we need? I'll do some further digging too!


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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-29 Thread Tobias Mueller
Heya :)

On 28.05.2012 12:15, Allan Day wrote:
 The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is
 Tweetdeck. 
I haven't seen why using at doesn't do what we want. Have I missed that?

The man page reads as if it was designed for the usecase ;-)

 NAME
at,  batch,  atq, atrm - queue, examine or delete jobs for later execu‐
tion

Cheers,
  Tobi



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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-29 Thread Allan Day
Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote:
 The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is
 Tweetdeck.
 I haven't seen why using at doesn't do what we want. Have I missed that?
...

If you schedule posts, other contributors need to be able to see what
has been scheduled. Otherwise you could easily end up with conflicts.

And I don't want to have to leave a machine running to know that a
post will be made. We might want to schedule posts weeks in advance.

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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-29 Thread Anthony Papillion
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On 5/29/2012 4:19 PM, Allan Day wrote:
 Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote:
 The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is 
 Tweetdeck.
 I haven't seen why using at doesn't do what we want. Have I
 missed that?
 ...
 
 If you schedule posts, other contributors need to be able to see
 what has been scheduled. Otherwise you could easily end up with
 conflicts.
 
 And I don't want to have to leave a machine running to know that a 
 post will be made. We might want to schedule posts weeks in
 advance.

Tweetdeck is great except it's not really for group microblogging. I'm
part of a crisis mappers group and we use a service called Timely to
coordinate tweeting as a team. It's great and it lets people
collaborate on the tweets sent out, track metrics, reach, etc.

I believe the site is www.time.ly but if that's not it let me know and
I'll dig it up.

HTH,
Anthony
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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-29 Thread Allan Day
Anthony Papillion anth...@papillion.me wrote:
...
 Tweetdeck is great except it's not really for group microblogging. I'm
 part of a crisis mappers group and we use a service called Timely to
 coordinate tweeting as a team. It's great and it lets people
 collaborate on the tweets sent out, track metrics, reach, etc.

 I believe the site is www.time.ly but if that's not it let me know and
 I'll dig it up.

Thanks for the suggestion, Anthony! It looks like Timely [1] does
automatic scheduling of posts rather than allowing you to schedule
them for a specific time in the future... is that right?

Allan

[1] http://timely.is
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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-29 Thread Allan Day
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anthony Papillion anth...@papillion.me wrote:
 ...
 Tweetdeck is great except it's not really for group microblogging. I'm
 part of a crisis mappers group and we use a service called Timely to
 coordinate tweeting as a team. It's great and it lets people
 collaborate on the tweets sent out, track metrics, reach, etc.

 I believe the site is www.time.ly but if that's not it let me know and
 I'll dig it up.

 Thanks for the suggestion, Anthony! It looks like Timely [1] does
 automatic scheduling of posts rather than allowing you to schedule
 them for a specific time in the future... is that right?
...

Could it be that Buffer [1] is what we need?

Allan

[1] http://bufferapp.com/
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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-29 Thread Stormy Peters
I've heard lots of good things about CoTweet and groups of people tweeting
on the same account. However, it doesn't do Identica.

Stormy

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Anthony Papillion anth...@papillion.me wrote:
  ...
  Tweetdeck is great except it's not really for group microblogging. I'm
  part of a crisis mappers group and we use a service called Timely to
  coordinate tweeting as a team. It's great and it lets people
  collaborate on the tweets sent out, track metrics, reach, etc.
 
  I believe the site is www.time.ly but if that's not it let me know and
  I'll dig it up.
 
  Thanks for the suggestion, Anthony! It looks like Timely [1] does
  automatic scheduling of posts rather than allowing you to schedule
  them for a specific time in the future... is that right?
 ...

 Could it be that Buffer [1] is what we need?

 Allan

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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-28 Thread Allan Day
Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:
...
 I really need a way to schedule
 microblogging posts.
...
 This leaves two options that I can see:

 1. Change our workflow so that we publish posts on Twitter and push
 them to Identi.ca from there. Then use a Twitter client with
 scheduling capabilities.

 2. Use the gnome.org Wordpress install to schedule microblogging posts
 and push them to Twitter.
...
 This sounds like a good plan to me - is it easy to use the Wordpress install
 in that way? I think it would be worth the inconvenience to be able to do
 this. I'm not a microblogger by nature, but it's really important we have
 that kind of content out there (and I usually think of things to microblog
 long after they're relevant, and think darn...)
...

I've tried a couple of Wordpress plugins for posting to Identi.ca, but
these are generally focused on sending updates when you publish a blog
post, and none of them really fitted the bill. Identi.ca itself does
have a feature that allows you to generate messages from an RSS/Atom
feed (which we could generate using Wordpress), but the feature isn't
working for me, for some reason.

I'm also starting to think that using Wordpress as a microblogging
platform is just wrong. :)

The only thing I've found which is able to do what we need is
Tweetdeck. I'd be really happy to use that on a shared GNOME account.

Allan
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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-25 Thread Karen Sandler

On 2012-05-17 12:17, Allan Day wrote:

Hi all,

I do most of the GNOME microblogging, but I often find it difficult 
to
do it effectively. One reason for this is that there currently isn't 
a

way to schedule a post. I'll often think of things that need posting
at times when they won't get exposure, or I'll think of three
different posts all at once. I really need a way to schedule
microblogging posts.

Our microblogging posts are currently published on Identi.ca. From
there they are pushed to Twitter, and from Twitter to Facebook. I've
been unable to find an Ident.ca client that allows scheduling (they 
do

exist for Twitter). This leaves two options that I can see:

1. Change our workflow so that we publish posts on Twitter and push
them to Identi.ca from there. Then use a Twitter client with
scheduling capabilities.

2. Use the gnome.org Wordpress install to schedule microblogging 
posts

and push them to Twitter.

The second option seems nicer to me, because it gives us a common
shared platform for publishing news. I'm imagining that we'd have to
install a plugin and create a separate news category for
microblogging. Potential downside: we clutter the Wordpress install
with lots of microblogging guff.

Thoughts? Opinions?


hey Allan,

I'm mostly just bumping this up as I finally catch up on email from 
when I was away :)


This sounds like a good plan to me - is it easy to use the Wordpress 
install in that way? I think it would be worth the inconvenience to be 
able to do this. I'm not a microblogger by nature, but it's really 
important we have that kind of content out there (and I usually think of 
things to microblog long after they're relevant, and think darn...)


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Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-17 Thread Allan Day
Hi all,

I do most of the GNOME microblogging, but I often find it difficult to
do it effectively. One reason for this is that there currently isn't a
way to schedule a post. I'll often think of things that need posting
at times when they won't get exposure, or I'll think of three
different posts all at once. I really need a way to schedule
microblogging posts.

Our microblogging posts are currently published on Identi.ca. From
there they are pushed to Twitter, and from Twitter to Facebook. I've
been unable to find an Ident.ca client that allows scheduling (they do
exist for Twitter). This leaves two options that I can see:

1. Change our workflow so that we publish posts on Twitter and push
them to Identi.ca from there. Then use a Twitter client with
scheduling capabilities.

2. Use the gnome.org Wordpress install to schedule microblogging posts
and push them to Twitter.

The second option seems nicer to me, because it gives us a common
shared platform for publishing news. I'm imagining that we'd have to
install a plugin and create a separate news category for
microblogging. Potential downside: we clutter the Wordpress install
with lots of microblogging guff.

Thoughts? Opinions?

Allan
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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-17 Thread Tobias Mueller
Bonjour :)

On 17.05.2012 18:17, Allan Day wrote:
 Thoughts? Opinions?
 
What about writing or enhancing something to schedule a post. Identica
is, after all, free software, no?

But it can't be terribly hard to implement something like
'sleep 24h  identica my message'

And there seem to be many options to do use Identica from the command
line, i.e.
http://blog.philippklaus.de/2011/06/communicate-with-the-identi-ca-api-using-python-via-tweepy/

So all it takes to schedule something is access to a machine that runs
long enough, i.e. one of the GNOME servers.

You could even do smth like ssh gnome nohup bash -c 'sleep 24h 
identica message' from your machine as a fire and forget approach.

Cheers,
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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-17 Thread Olav Vitters
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 05:17:03PM +0100, Allan Day wrote:
 Thoughts? Opinions?

I saw a post somewhere on Google+ that with Feedburner you can
automatically turn your RSS stuff into posts on twitter.

The idea was:
Google+ - Some RSS thing for G+ - Feedburner - Twitter

But you could use this as well to go:
RSS thing - Feedburner - Twitter

not sure what kind of other things Feedburner allows

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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-17 Thread Allan Day
Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de wrote:
 Bonjour :)

 On 17.05.2012 18:17, Allan Day wrote:
 Thoughts? Opinions?

 What about writing or enhancing something to schedule a post. Identica
 is, after all, free software, no?

 But it can't be terribly hard to implement something like
 'sleep 24h  identica my message'
...

That's a nice idea; it's certainly an option! Would it let me see
which messages are queued up?

One thing that I liked about the Wordpress idea is that it would let
us collaborate in sending out microblogging posts. Contributors could
log in and see what messages are in the queue, and they could add
their own. People could even help to write posts weeks in advance.

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Re: Microblogging Workflow

2012-05-17 Thread Tobias Mueller
Bonjour :)

On 17.05.2012 21:59, Allan Day wrote:
 Would it let me see
 which messages are queued up?
well. Not automatically, but the poor man's option, again, would be to
do smth like ps aux | grep identica or atq depending on which
technology is about to be used.

Cheers,
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