Re: OSCON
OK, I will work on getting a booth working for GNOME. I think we have a reason to be there if we want to get more javascript folks. However, we are going to need to get all the materials that fledgling javascript writers would want to know to write for our platform. sri On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: It's good to spend a little time in the booth, and there is some networking to be done from there :) Perhaps we should email the foundations list when it gets a little closer and see if there are others attending who may not be on the marketing list? It's still pretty early for people to know if they're going. karen On Fri, March 22, 2013 11:52 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Actually, I don't expect you to be at the booth much at all I mostly thinking you would be out there networking. Much more important role. On Mar 21, 2013 11:40 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
Oh c'mon Sri, I did a booth all by my lonesome at Ohio Linux Fest :p In all seriousness, I'd love to help but, as with Brett you're on the other side of the continent, which makes it a bit hard. Though, IMHO we ought to have a GNOME booth at all the major conferences, though I'm probably dreaming. Emily On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Ack! These things are always on the other side of the continent from me... though I'd love to do a road trip out that way. BSDCan is in my neck of the woods (in Ottawa) though I do not think we're in good shape yet in that camp, at least in FreeBSD which is my primary BSD area of interest (correct me if I'm wrong, someone!) -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 2:40 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
Actually, I don't expect you to be at the booth much at all I mostly thinking you would be out there networking. Much more important role. On Mar 21, 2013 11:40 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Mar 22, 2013 5:57 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Oh c'mon Sri, I did a booth all by my lonesome at Ohio Linux Fest :p In all seriousness, I'd love to help but, as with Brett you're on the other side of the continent, which makes it a bit hard. Though, IMHO we ought to have a GNOME booth at all the major conferences, though I'm probably dreaming. I have as well. Although, I did manage to get volunteers. The problem is more related to work. I'm more busy now than when I was an engineer in IT. So I have to spend some time during the day working. Sri Emily On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:19 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Ack! These things are always on the other side of the continent from me... though I'd love to do a road trip out that way. BSDCan is in my neck of the woods (in Ottawa) though I do not think we're in good shape yet in that camp, at least in FreeBSD which is my primary BSD area of interest (correct me if I'm wrong, someone!) -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 2:40 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
It's good to spend a little time in the booth, and there is some networking to be done from there :) Perhaps we should email the foundations list when it gets a little closer and see if there are others attending who may not be on the marketing list? It's still pretty early for people to know if they're going. karen On Fri, March 22, 2013 11:52 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Actually, I don't expect you to be at the booth much at all I mostly thinking you would be out there networking. Much more important role. On Mar 21, 2013 11:40 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 1:42 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am thinking about getting a booth this time. I've always resisted because we don't really have a good reason to be there. Butt his time, with our push to javascript I would like to be able to market to javascript writers at OSCON. Unfortunately, I'm one guy, and I'm not even sure I can even do that. I'm not sure if I can pull off manning the booth. I need to see if I can get some volunteers to man it. I'll see what I can do.. I can do a little time at the booth (if one of my talk proposals is accepted and I go to the conference) but I can't commit to being there for big long stretches of the days since I'll try to pack it with meetings if possible. I can definitely help all around though. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 21:21 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: My earlier suggestion was to have a11y devices that we can take advantage of and give a demo of how well it works for them. Show them the value of a11y and then see if they could donate a couple of bits for the cause. sri At the last CSUN event, the only thing we really did for demo purposes was to hook up a decent speaker (which I bought for the CSUN event) to Orca. Bringing a11y assistive devices isn't feasible. But speaker + Orca did demonstrate enough for interested visitors about what GNOME is capable of doing. Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 15:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: The best booths are the ones that engage people passing by. I had a few ideas but they may be way out there... could be cool for OSCON, though. Interesting ideas! I like the thought process going into this. 1. Croud-source something we need that isn't getting done - The classic example was last year, there's a project aiming to create audio learning materials to go along with words and images. They have English down pretty well, but could use others. I can't remember the name, unfortunately... I suggested that they could set up a recording booth, and take advantage of the international make-up of the audience to get recordings of different languages. It becomes a demo of their tools, and an opportunity to get contributions at the same time. It probably would be useful if we discussed what it is we want to gain from our visitors. What are the things specific to GNOME we need to put up front and and how can we do it simply in a booth setting? OpenStreetMap does something similar, hosting mapping parties in the evening after conferences in places where they have booths. Do we have something where we could engage the public and get material we could use later? Translations? Mallard docs? Something where we can show a checklist and see everything going to green as people do the work during the conference would be cool! 2. Interactive demo booths - Something like a coding competition, where on Day 1, you pair people off to write a Shell extension to do the same thing as a bake-off, the winners do something else on day 2, and on day 3 you have the final. I haven't thought this through fully, but the fact that you can write shell extensions in JS should appeal to the web cloud crowd, no? This could be a very cool idea. We might even put up a poster or something indicating a wishlist of extensions. And it serves a dual purpose: 1) Get people to code for extensions and 2) raise awareness about the existence of extensions. What can GNOME afford as a prize for these entries? And how would it be awarded? Best of show? or First to submit working extension? 3. Some way to follow through - My experience of GNOME booths is that we rarely have a call to action for after the conference. We don't collect email addresses for a newsletter, or ask people to do anything in particular. It'd be nice if we used contact with a highly technical audience as an opportunity to get some new contributors. What might that be? Signing up Friends of GNOME might be a start, Bribery always helps. :-) What if we offered a little something extra if you sign up for FoG at the event in addition to the items you will get from normal signup? but also having some way to sign people up for an announce mailing list I dunno. Sometimes these things can get a little iffy. People feeling that they don't want to be on some spamming list or have their names in some database. You just don't see that kind of data collection (incl. business cards) at FLOSS events like you do at commercial enterprise events. But we should provide for nice way to give them sign up information, via handouts or QR Code on a very conspicuous poster. Bryen (not paper pen! No-one ever types all that in again - either a form that stores contact details in a Mailman compatible batch subscription format, or a proper connection to the announce mailing list, and a follow-up afterwards with a call to engage) In terms of getting people involved, it might be interesting to do something about the new applications. Some new designs are in the works, but there are others that need developers to step up. You could do something along the lines of 'Help us to make the next generation of GNOME applications', possibly. I think that getting people to sign up to Friends of GNOME would be a great idea. You could have special badges/t-shirts that they could wear at the conference if they do. Let's not forget the a11y campaign that is happening, either. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 08:57 +, Allan Day wrote: I think that getting people to sign up to Friends of GNOME would be a great idea. You could have special badges/t-shirts that they could wear at the conference if they do. Let's not forget the a11y campaign that is happening, either. Allan And would it also make sense to make sure people wear their just-bought t-shirts by saying there will be one random winner of a special prize at the end of the event? Hmm, we seem to have hijacked this thread (in a good and interesting way) from its original intent. Maybe we should restart this as a fresh thread like Booth Strategies or something. Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 01/29/2012 02:16 AM, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: I manned the GNOME booth at OSCON for 3 years. It just seems that the participants there are not really interested in Linux desktops in general. They are all cloud/web apps type of people. The best booths are the ones that engage people passing by. That is totally correct, that's why I didn't want a booth where we just sat around passively. We want to show something, do something whatever it is. Of course, those kind of booths required preparation and planning. :-) I had a few ideas but they may be way out there... could be cool for OSCON, though. 1. Croud-source something we need that isn't getting done - The classic example was last year, there's a project aiming to create audio learning materials to go along with words and images. They have English down pretty well, but could use others. I can't remember the name, unfortunately... I suggested that they could set up a recording booth, and take advantage of the international make-up of the audience to get recordings of different languages. It becomes a demo of their tools, and an opportunity to get contributions at the same time. I like the idea. I'm trying to think of how we could fit that in, in a GNOME booth. The only only thing I could think of is to show off the a11y have a screen reader or some other device hooked up and people try to use the desktop using those devices with appropriate handicaps of course. OpenStreetMap does something similar, hosting mapping parties in the evening after conferences in places where they have booths. Yeah, I remember that from last OSCON. :) Do we have something where we could engage the public and get material we could use later? Translations? Mallard docs? Something where we can show a checklist and see everything going to green as people do the work during the conference would be cool! 2. Interactive demo booths - Something like a coding competition, where on Day 1, you pair people off to write a Shell extension to do the same thing as a bake-off, the winners do something else on day 2, and on day 3 you have the final. I haven't thought this through fully, but the fact that you can write shell extensions in JS should appeal to the web cloud crowd, no? The thing here is that marketing doesn't really want to focus on extensions so much. We want to sell the original design. The extensions are kind of a get out of jail and let people extend the desktop or allow designers to try out new stuff. But the marketing team themselves are not going to be pushing it in an official capacity. However, showing off gobject-introspection and how we can easily get bindings instantly by writing a gobject C library and have that immediately show up in all the bindings. I think that is NEAT stuff and is worth talking about. Vala also is neat to talk about. 3. Some way to follow through - My experience of GNOME booths is that we rarely have a call to action for after the conference. We don't collect email addresses for a newsletter, or ask people to do anything in particular. It'd be nice if we used contact with a highly technical audience as an opportunity to get some new contributors. What might that be? Signing up Friends of GNOME might be a start, but also having some way to sign people up for an announce mailing list (not paper pen! No-one ever types all that in again - either a form that stores contact details in a Mailman compatible batch subscription format, or a proper connection to the announce mailing list, and a follow-up afterwards with a call to engage) I think signing up for FoG is a great idea, but the other bits is might raise privacy concerns and secondly we have to actually have a process to do something with those email addresses. Clearly, we can't just add htem to a mailing list. I know personally I would not like to have my email spammed like that. The booth would have to be focused on applications or integration with cloud, a11y, or online services to get traction IMHO. A booth for the sake of just showing a GNOME desktop is not very inspiring or useful. Web APIs and cloud/online services sounds like a great focus! Yeah, I thinking integration is always a great thing. I know as a corporate user, I would love to show people how a GNOME desktop can neatly fit as a valuable resource in a corporate network. Thanks for putting that out there, Dave. sri Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/**listinfo/marketing-listhttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: In terms of getting people involved, it might be interesting to do something about the new applications. Some new designs are in the works, but there are others that need developers to step up. You could do something along the lines of 'Help us to make the next generation of GNOME applications', possibly. I'm very interested in the new epiphany designs. I think showing that and the full screen features would be an interesting demo of how to cruise the web. I'd love to see something working. I think that getting people to sign up to Friends of GNOME would be a great idea. You could have special badges/t-shirts that they could wear at the conference if they do. Let's not forget the a11y campaign that is happening, either. My earlier suggestion was to have a11y devices that we can take advantage of and give a demo of how well it works for them. Show them the value of a11y and then see if they could donate a couple of bits for the cause. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
Hi, On 01/29/2012 02:16 AM, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: I manned the GNOME booth at OSCON for 3 years. It just seems that the participants there are not really interested in Linux desktops in general. They are all cloud/web apps type of people. The best booths are the ones that engage people passing by. I had a few ideas but they may be way out there... could be cool for OSCON, though. 1. Croud-source something we need that isn't getting done - The classic example was last year, there's a project aiming to create audio learning materials to go along with words and images. They have English down pretty well, but could use others. I can't remember the name, unfortunately... I suggested that they could set up a recording booth, and take advantage of the international make-up of the audience to get recordings of different languages. It becomes a demo of their tools, and an opportunity to get contributions at the same time. OpenStreetMap does something similar, hosting mapping parties in the evening after conferences in places where they have booths. Do we have something where we could engage the public and get material we could use later? Translations? Mallard docs? Something where we can show a checklist and see everything going to green as people do the work during the conference would be cool! 2. Interactive demo booths - Something like a coding competition, where on Day 1, you pair people off to write a Shell extension to do the same thing as a bake-off, the winners do something else on day 2, and on day 3 you have the final. I haven't thought this through fully, but the fact that you can write shell extensions in JS should appeal to the web cloud crowd, no? 3. Some way to follow through - My experience of GNOME booths is that we rarely have a call to action for after the conference. We don't collect email addresses for a newsletter, or ask people to do anything in particular. It'd be nice if we used contact with a highly technical audience as an opportunity to get some new contributors. What might that be? Signing up Friends of GNOME might be a start, but also having some way to sign people up for an announce mailing list (not paper pen! No-one ever types all that in again - either a form that stores contact details in a Mailman compatible batch subscription format, or a proper connection to the announce mailing list, and a follow-up afterwards with a call to engage) The booth would have to be focused on applications or integration with cloud, a11y, or online services to get traction IMHO. A booth for the sake of just showing a GNOME desktop is not very inspiring or useful. Web APIs and cloud/online services sounds like a great focus! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 15:37 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: The best booths are the ones that engage people passing by. I had a few ideas but they may be way out there... could be cool for OSCON, though. Interesting ideas! I like the thought process going into this. 1. Croud-source something we need that isn't getting done - The classic example was last year, there's a project aiming to create audio learning materials to go along with words and images. They have English down pretty well, but could use others. I can't remember the name, unfortunately... I suggested that they could set up a recording booth, and take advantage of the international make-up of the audience to get recordings of different languages. It becomes a demo of their tools, and an opportunity to get contributions at the same time. It probably would be useful if we discussed what it is we want to gain from our visitors. What are the things specific to GNOME we need to put up front and and how can we do it simply in a booth setting? OpenStreetMap does something similar, hosting mapping parties in the evening after conferences in places where they have booths. Do we have something where we could engage the public and get material we could use later? Translations? Mallard docs? Something where we can show a checklist and see everything going to green as people do the work during the conference would be cool! 2. Interactive demo booths - Something like a coding competition, where on Day 1, you pair people off to write a Shell extension to do the same thing as a bake-off, the winners do something else on day 2, and on day 3 you have the final. I haven't thought this through fully, but the fact that you can write shell extensions in JS should appeal to the web cloud crowd, no? This could be a very cool idea. We might even put up a poster or something indicating a wishlist of extensions. And it serves a dual purpose: 1) Get people to code for extensions and 2) raise awareness about the existence of extensions. What can GNOME afford as a prize for these entries? And how would it be awarded? Best of show? or First to submit working extension? 3. Some way to follow through - My experience of GNOME booths is that we rarely have a call to action for after the conference. We don't collect email addresses for a newsletter, or ask people to do anything in particular. It'd be nice if we used contact with a highly technical audience as an opportunity to get some new contributors. What might that be? Signing up Friends of GNOME might be a start, Bribery always helps. :-) What if we offered a little something extra if you sign up for FoG at the event in addition to the items you will get from normal signup? but also having some way to sign people up for an announce mailing list I dunno. Sometimes these things can get a little iffy. People feeling that they don't want to be on some spamming list or have their names in some database. You just don't see that kind of data collection (incl. business cards) at FLOSS events like you do at commercial enterprise events. But we should provide for nice way to give them sign up information, via handouts or QR Code on a very conspicuous poster. Bryen (not paper pen! No-one ever types all that in again - either a form that stores contact details in a Mailman compatible batch subscription format, or a proper connection to the announce mailing list, and a follow-up afterwards with a call to engage) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 18:00 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Is it worth registering a booth at OSCON? I guess, if we have applications to show then perhaps it might be better. We could also try to get donations for a11y as well. Anyways, let me know what people think. I'd like to to have a meeting on how to deal wtih conferences.. what conferences we should be going to etc. sri I'll be going to OSCON this year on behalf of openSUSE. The procedure has changed this year for getting an OSCON booth (which the procedures have always sucked.) In the past it was first-come, first-served for dotorgs to get a free both. This year, they will open up an application process in March and then consider which ones qualify for a free both. No word on what the criteria will be. OSCON has promised they will contact me as soon as the application process is opened. I'll be sure to let the GNOME team here know when that happens so you guys can figure out a booth. We could also consider doing shared booths in order to increase dotOrg presence at these events. Worth thinking about. Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
The chair of OSCON used to be a GNOME contributor. We can probably ask him regarding any confusion on the criteria. I'm not that bullish of manning the booth but I will if it will help the cause. sri On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:25 -0600, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 18:00 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Is it worth registering a booth at OSCON? I guess, if we have applications to show then perhaps it might be better. We could also try to get donations for a11y as well. Anyways, let me know what people think. I'd like to to have a meeting on how to deal wtih conferences.. what conferences we should be going to etc. sri I'll be going to OSCON this year on behalf of openSUSE. The procedure has changed this year for getting an OSCON booth (which the procedures have always sucked.) In the past it was first-come, first-served for dotorgs to get a free both. This year, they will open up an application process in March and then consider which ones qualify for a free both. No word on what the criteria will be. OSCON has promised they will contact me as soon as the application process is opened. I'll be sure to let the GNOME team here know when that happens so you guys can figure out a booth. We could also consider doing shared booths in order to increase dotOrg presence at these events. Worth thinking about. Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 16:37 -0800, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: The chair of OSCON used to be a GNOME contributor. We can probably ask him regarding any confusion on the criteria. I'm not that bullish of manning the booth but I will if it will help the cause. sri I wouldn't want to see anyone stuck manning the booth. But surely within Portland and the nearby areas, there are people willing to volunteer to help staff the booth. A well-scheduled rotation makes boothing enjoyable and gives everyone a chance to do other things instead of feeling like it is all work and no play. As I recall, there's about 3 days of exhibit hall time. And it kicks off with a general meet n greet within the exhibit hall the first night incl horsey doors. (No I cannot spell that appetizer word to save my life!) Bryen On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:25 -0600, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 18:00 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Is it worth registering a booth at OSCON? I guess, if we have applications to show then perhaps it might be better. We could also try to get donations for a11y as well. Anyways, let me know what people think. I'd like to to have a meeting on how to deal wtih conferences.. what conferences we should be going to etc. sri I'll be going to OSCON this year on behalf of openSUSE. The procedure has changed this year for getting an OSCON booth (which the procedures have always sucked.) In the past it was first-come, first-served for dotorgs to get a free both. This year, they will open up an application process in March and then consider which ones qualify for a free both. No word on what the criteria will be. OSCON has promised they will contact me as soon as the application process is opened. I'll be sure to let the GNOME team here know when that happens so you guys can figure out a booth. We could also consider doing shared booths in order to increase dotOrg presence at these events. Worth thinking about. Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:47 -0600, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 16:37 -0800, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: The chair of OSCON used to be a GNOME contributor. We can probably ask him regarding any confusion on the criteria. I'm not that bullish of manning the booth but I will if it will help the cause. sri I wouldn't want to see anyone stuck manning the booth. But surely within Portland and the nearby areas, there are people willing to volunteer to help staff the booth. A well-scheduled rotation makes boothing enjoyable and gives everyone a chance to do other things instead of feeling like it is all work and no play. As I recall, there's about 3 days of exhibit hall time. And it kicks off with a general meet n greet within the exhibit hall the first night incl horsey doors. (No I cannot spell that appetizer word to save my life!) I manned the GNOME booth at OSCON for 3 years. It just seems that the participants there are not really interested in Linux desktops in general. They are all cloud/web apps type of people. The booth would have to be focused on applications or integration with cloud, a11y, or online services to get traction IMHO. A booth for the sake of just showing a GNOME desktop is not very inspiring or useful. sri Bryen On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 18:25 -0600, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: On Fri, 2012-01-27 at 18:00 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Is it worth registering a booth at OSCON? I guess, if we have applications to show then perhaps it might be better. We could also try to get donations for a11y as well. Anyways, let me know what people think. I'd like to to have a meeting on how to deal wtih conferences.. what conferences we should be going to etc. sri I'll be going to OSCON this year on behalf of openSUSE. The procedure has changed this year for getting an OSCON booth (which the procedures have always sucked.) In the past it was first-come, first-served for dotorgs to get a free both. This year, they will open up an application process in March and then consider which ones qualify for a free both. No word on what the criteria will be. OSCON has promised they will contact me as soon as the application process is opened. I'll be sure to let the GNOME team here know when that happens so you guys can figure out a booth. We could also consider doing shared booths in order to increase dotOrg presence at these events. Worth thinking about. Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON
On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 17:16 -0800, Sri Ramkrishna wrote: I manned the GNOME booth at OSCON for 3 years. It just seems that the participants there are not really interested in Linux desktops in general. They are all cloud/web apps type of people. The booth would have to be focused on applications or integration with cloud, a11y, or online services to get traction IMHO. A booth for the sake of just showing a GNOME desktop is not very inspiring or useful. sri Well yes. In general, when planning for a booth (or even presentations at an event) you should study the event itself and make your materials match the audience there to some degree. Just showing up with a standard booth without any prior consideration makes for a rather ineffective investment. In the case of OSCON, my understanding is that it is more developer-oriented. So the booth should likely focus on how to attract developers to GNOME whatnot, and the examples you provide above as well. Generally, I find X is great! to be rather limiting. We're more than just awesome. :-) Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON?
Larry, I do not think we need the event box at OSCON. Thanks! Stormy On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.comwrote: Let me rephrase the question: Does anyone know if GNOME requested a booth for which the event box would be needed? Larry Cafiero On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Bryen M. Yunashko susero...@bryen.comwrote: I'm not actually going to OSCON. I will, however, be at the Community Leadership Summit over the weekend prior to OSCON. (Wearing my openSUSE hat for that weekend.) However, I plan to walk around the exhibits at OSCON on Monday and then sneak in to check out the Teaching Open Source BoF that night. Then I'll be heading to Las Vegas Tuesday afternoon for another event (this on top of being in Hartford, CT the day before CLS). I'd love the chance to meet up with you and others at some point during my all-too-brief stay in Portland. Bryen On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 20:06 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: This is what I get for answering email while drinking wine: Let me rephrase: I have done the GNOME booth at OSCON for the first 3 years of OSCON, but I haven't done it after that because I find that the audience is very web/LAMP based. The desktop is not really of interest for a lot of people. The audience are more interested in applications that use cloud software, cloud software, databases, and system stuff and the like. Plus I find the whole schmooze thing kind of tedious and while I'm a champion schmoozer I actually need material that people would actually find interest. In the futuer, we want to target Open Source Bridge which is truly a good general purpose conference since it can tackle a lot of different topics. It is a lot smaller unfortunately. There is also Northwest Linuxfset I think in Seattle, but that is done already. Linuxfest folks showed interest in having a track on GNOME but I was not able to find the time to set something up. Back to OSCON, the only thing I have planned is an evening with local OSS folks with Stormy. Although her time is somewhat limited I hope to have one short evening so that she can get to know the local fokls. We have some local GNOME folks (or rather some ex GNOME folks) and a crap load of kernel developers and Mozilla folks. We have a good time. :) (ask the ubuntu folks!) It might also be a good time to discuss strategy in marketing if we want to do that. Are you local or an attendee? If there is interest I can set up a BOF.. but a booth I think is a waste of time. Thanks, sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I could volunteer.. I used to do the OSCON booth.. GNOME3 stuff might be cool. Not sure if there is enough time to setup a vendor booth though. Stormy will be there and I was going to set up an evening with local OSS folks here in Portland, that's the only thing I've planned. In general, I stopped doing it because the audience is really geared towards LAMP and I find the hype tedious. I much rather schmooze (which is what OSCON is good for) Are you local? What do you prefer? sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, folks -- Is there going to be any GNOME presence at OSCON, and if so, who gets the event box and banner? Thanks. Larry Cafiero -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON?
I could volunteer.. I used to do the OSCON booth.. GNOME3 stuff might be cool. Not sure if there is enough time to setup a vendor booth though. Stormy will be there and I was going to set up an evening with local OSS folks here in Portland, that's the only thing I've planned. In general, I stopped doing it because the audience is really geared towards LAMP and I find the hype tedious. I much rather schmooze (which is what OSCON is good for) Are you local? What do you prefer? sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, folks -- Is there going to be any GNOME presence at OSCON, and if so, who gets the event box and banner? Thanks. Larry Cafiero -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON?
This is what I get for answering email while drinking wine: Let me rephrase: I have done the GNOME booth at OSCON for the first 3 years of OSCON, but I haven't done it after that because I find that the audience is very web/LAMP based. The desktop is not really of interest for a lot of people. The audience are more interested in applications that use cloud software, cloud software, databases, and system stuff and the like. Plus I find the whole schmooze thing kind of tedious and while I'm a champion schmoozer I actually need material that people would actually find interest. In the futuer, we want to target Open Source Bridge which is truly a good general purpose conference since it can tackle a lot of different topics. It is a lot smaller unfortunately. There is also Northwest Linuxfset I think in Seattle, but that is done already. Linuxfest folks showed interest in having a track on GNOME but I was not able to find the time to set something up. Back to OSCON, the only thing I have planned is an evening with local OSS folks with Stormy. Although her time is somewhat limited I hope to have one short evening so that she can get to know the local fokls. We have some local GNOME folks (or rather some ex GNOME folks) and a crap load of kernel developers and Mozilla folks. We have a good time. :) (ask the ubuntu folks!) It might also be a good time to discuss strategy in marketing if we want to do that. Are you local or an attendee? If there is interest I can set up a BOF.. but a booth I think is a waste of time. Thanks, sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I could volunteer.. I used to do the OSCON booth.. GNOME3 stuff might be cool. Not sure if there is enough time to setup a vendor booth though. Stormy will be there and I was going to set up an evening with local OSS folks here in Portland, that's the only thing I've planned. In general, I stopped doing it because the audience is really geared towards LAMP and I find the hype tedious. I much rather schmooze (which is what OSCON is good for) Are you local? What do you prefer? sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, folks -- Is there going to be any GNOME presence at OSCON, and if so, who gets the event box and banner? Thanks. Larry Cafiero -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON?
I just looked at the Northwest Linuxfest tracks and there can't be a conference more in aligned to talk about desktop than there for that part of the country. I'm very sorry that I missed the opportunity to present. I have mailed the organizers and have asked that they consider me as a speaker for GNOME 3 for next May/April. That will be right before the next major release of GNOME 3. So it will be a good time to talk about it. sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, folks -- Is there going to be any GNOME presence at OSCON, and if so, who gets the event box and banner? Thanks. Larry Cafiero -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON?
I'm not actually going to OSCON. I will, however, be at the Community Leadership Summit over the weekend prior to OSCON. (Wearing my openSUSE hat for that weekend.) However, I plan to walk around the exhibits at OSCON on Monday and then sneak in to check out the Teaching Open Source BoF that night. Then I'll be heading to Las Vegas Tuesday afternoon for another event (this on top of being in Hartford, CT the day before CLS). I'd love the chance to meet up with you and others at some point during my all-too-brief stay in Portland. Bryen On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 20:06 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: This is what I get for answering email while drinking wine: Let me rephrase: I have done the GNOME booth at OSCON for the first 3 years of OSCON, but I haven't done it after that because I find that the audience is very web/LAMP based. The desktop is not really of interest for a lot of people. The audience are more interested in applications that use cloud software, cloud software, databases, and system stuff and the like. Plus I find the whole schmooze thing kind of tedious and while I'm a champion schmoozer I actually need material that people would actually find interest. In the futuer, we want to target Open Source Bridge which is truly a good general purpose conference since it can tackle a lot of different topics. It is a lot smaller unfortunately. There is also Northwest Linuxfset I think in Seattle, but that is done already. Linuxfest folks showed interest in having a track on GNOME but I was not able to find the time to set something up. Back to OSCON, the only thing I have planned is an evening with local OSS folks with Stormy. Although her time is somewhat limited I hope to have one short evening so that she can get to know the local fokls. We have some local GNOME folks (or rather some ex GNOME folks) and a crap load of kernel developers and Mozilla folks. We have a good time. :) (ask the ubuntu folks!) It might also be a good time to discuss strategy in marketing if we want to do that. Are you local or an attendee? If there is interest I can set up a BOF.. but a booth I think is a waste of time. Thanks, sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I could volunteer.. I used to do the OSCON booth.. GNOME3 stuff might be cool. Not sure if there is enough time to setup a vendor booth though. Stormy will be there and I was going to set up an evening with local OSS folks here in Portland, that's the only thing I've planned. In general, I stopped doing it because the audience is really geared towards LAMP and I find the hype tedious. I much rather schmooze (which is what OSCON is good for) Are you local? What do you prefer? sri On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, folks -- Is there going to be any GNOME presence at OSCON, and if so, who gets the event box and banner? Thanks. Larry Cafiero -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON was Re: [Fwd: blah blah LinuxWorld San Francisco 2005 blah blah]
Hi, Paul Cooper wrote: I would tend to agree with Sriram that a booth may not be the most productive use of our time at OSCON. I've just found out that they are also doing a BarCamp style unconference in parallel with OSCON called (wait for it.) OSCAMP. See http://oscamp.org - in particular http://oscamp.org/Call_for_Speakers - although BarCamps are usually unstructured plan-it-on-the-day kind of events. Perhaps we can think of some things to present there? OK - take it away guys :) I agree that at this stage, a stand isn't as useful as a decent BOF - register the BOF here: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/46/bof.html Also OSCamp sounds good, and worthwhile. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Paul Cooper wrote: Another thing we could do is hold a BOF / impromptu event. Haven't been to OSCON at it's new venue but they alway used to provide rooms for BOFS. With at least Glynn, JDub and me there we should have enough people to do something (if nothing else talk about Guadec 2007). I'll see about the possibility of a stand, if people are available to man it. I would tend to agree with Sriram that a booth may not be the most productive use of our time at OSCON. I've just found out that they are also doing a BarCamp style unconference in parallel with OSCON called (wait for it.) OSCAMP. See http://oscamp.org - in particular http://oscamp.org/Call_for_Speakers - although BarCamps are usually unstructured plan-it-on-the-day kind of events. Perhaps we can think of some things to present there? Paul Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Paul Cooper| Tel: 0121 634 1620 Assistant Director | Fax: 0121 634 1630 OpenAdvantage | http://www.openadvantage.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON Booth planning..
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 at 11:17:38 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I think pretty much everything is ready logistically (we have about 3 for sure, and five if things work out) But I need a little help in locating the GNOME poster that I think was last headed out to California last year. If not, we need to come up with one. :-) The sign sent to California last year is back in Boston. What size is the OSCON booth? Is it pipe and drape? It's possible to use the same signs for OSCON and LWE in San Franciso. tim -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Alright. As for the size of the booth, I believe it is 10x10. My brother said he might help me design one as well. But yeah, if you could sent it that would be cool. I can probably send it back with someone going back to California or whatever. sri On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 19:01 +0200, Tim Ney, GNOME Foundation wrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 at 11:17:38 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I think pretty much everything is ready logistically (we have about 3 for sure, and five if things work out) But I need a little help in locating the GNOME poster that I think was last headed out to California last year. If not, we need to come up with one. :-) The sign sent to California last year is back in Boston. What size is the OSCON booth? Is it pipe and drape? It's possible to use the same signs for OSCON and LWE in San Franciso. tim -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON Booth planning..
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 02:51:22PM -0400, Luis Villa wrote: I don't think we have any quite yet. Next year, definitely :/ [But someone else should feel to correct me.] No worries. If we can't do t-shirts, I am cool with that. * I'm also trying to see if I can get a GNOME Live CD included in the conference packet that is given out to all the attendees. That will allow us to distribute GNOME conference wide. This sounds great. I need to determine if they agree to distribute it, how many they will need and when. Would it be possible to press say 1-2K cds? I got this done on about 4 working days notice for LWE, including couriered delivery. If the conference starts on Aug. 1st, that means we need to decide by roughly the 25th (22nd would be better.) Cost would be fairly high- somewhere in the neck of $1.1K for 2K CDs, which might be a problem. We can of course put OSCON content on the CD if they want to defer our costs. OK, thats good to bring up when I talk with them. I'll look into trying to get an automated demo going because last year I find that people aren't interested in doing hands on approach to playing with GNOME. A nice little automated demo will show things nicely. Hrm. I'd like to play with this, but I can promise nothing in this time frame. Did you have any ideas on how you wanted to do it? Well, the participants are people who are in government and small to midsized companies. A great target in my opinions. So you'll see people who are sysadmins at school systems, or work in state govt, or have consultancy firms and so forth. Strategically, What you probably want to show off is this: * multimedia capabilities * creating theora videos for educational purposes (ex the demo itself) * streaming video demo * office compatibility (nebulous..no idea on how to show that) * maybe a sabayon demo on sysadmining GNOME boxen etc. * file management Stuff though like beagle would be killer because being able to get real time info about things would really drum up interest in GNOME. It's exactly the kind of thing that Windows doesn't have. Thats some stuff off the top of my head. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON GNOME booth..
Hi, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: So OSCON is offering me a free both for GNOME Foundation and since my boss as approved me attending I am going to try for it. But I don't know if I will be able to get volunteers. :/ Jeff's going to be there. He likes GNOME. Tim will probably also be there. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OSCON GNOME booth..
Actually, I may be there also... We are discussing it at work now. --Ken Quoting Sriram Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replying to myself: Some people asked the location and date of OSCON 05. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/ August 1 - 5, Portland, OR USA Miguel and Jeff Waugh will be there and some other folks. sri On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:33:18AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: So OSCON is offering me a free both for GNOME Foundation and since my boss as approved me attending I am going to try for it. But I don't know if I will be able to get volunteers. :/ I'll ask the usual suspect and see if I can get some help. Maybe tht guy Aseigo can help he's only 3 hours away. :-) I'd like to try to figure out how we could run automated GNOME tours that we were talking about earlier. Things like dashboard, Xgl and other cool things that I can get people to come over to the booth to look at. The goal is to set up a net, so they can come by and think wow, thats kind of cool sri -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
