Re: Suggestion about providing more value to Foundation members
Ar Mer, 2009-09-16 am 11:03 -0600, ysgrifennodd Stormy Peters: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.com wrote: Stormy: How do we encourage people to write recommendations? Could we do some sort of Pass it on campaign? A few of us could write recommendations and then ask the people we recommended to pass it on by recommending two more people. That is not a bad idea. However, I think one thing that makes this hard is that many people probably do not know who is doing good hard work. Many people might be thrilled by the new bugzilla, for example, but have no idea who did the work. It is hard to recommend people if you do not know who is doing things. What if we had a thank you GNOME mailing list or page. People could send in their thanks for specific features or work and we could match it up with the right person. Perl have a 'perlthanks' utility which is essentially a configuration of their bug reporting tool to emial thank-you notes. It would be nice to have such a program in GNOME (possibly linked to the About Gnome UI), though all that may be needed is a link to a webpage in About Gnome where they can submit a thank-you note. Regards, Iestyn signature.asc Description: Mae hwn yn rhan neges wedi'i lofnodi'n ddigidol -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Suggestion about providing more value to Foundation members
So where do we put out a call for thank you's? Maybe create a wiki page and then put out a call on the GNOME Foundation list? Stormy On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: I would recommend calling out people in the new quarterly reports, maybe as it's own section, rather than GNOME Journal or the release notes. Paul On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote: For example, we get three people writing in to say the new bugzilla is awesome and it saves them 30 minutes a day finding bugs to work on, so the board writes a recommendation on Max/Olav/sys admin team member page saying Mike's work on bugzilla was extremely helpful to GNOME users. Several users wrote into say that they save 30 minutes at a time during their work day because of the improvements that Mike made. Mike's work exemplifies the GNOME mission of making computing accessible and easy for everyone. It might be cool to have a Thank You Wiki on live.gnome.org where we archive these sorts of recommendations or thank yous. Aside from making our community more friendly and personal, it would have other benefits too. This way people who are written up as being great community members can refer to the GNOME Wiki as a testament of their work in addition to whatever recommendations they may get on social networking sites. Also we should consider putting people who did good work on the release notes on a GNOME release? I know that on subprojects this occurs but we don't do it on a project level. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Suggestion about providing more value to Foundation members
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote: Stormy: How do we encourage people to write recommendations? Could we do some sort of Pass it on campaign? A few of us could write recommendations and then ask the people we recommended to pass it on by recommending two more people. That is not a bad idea. However, I think one thing that makes this hard is that many people probably do not know who is doing good hard work. Many people might be thrilled by the new bugzilla, for example, but have no idea who did the work. It is hard to recommend people if you do not know who is doing things. What if we had a thank you GNOME mailing list or page. People could send in their thanks for specific features or work and we could match it up with the right person. The recommendations on LinkedIn or profile pages could then come from me or the board (or anyone from this list that would like some practice at writing recommendations or who is already good at it.) For example, we get three people writing in to say the new bugzilla is awesome and it saves them 30 minutes a day finding bugs to work on, so the board writes a recommendation on Max/Olav/sys admin team member page saying Mike's work on bugzilla was extremely helpful to GNOME users. Several users wrote into say that they save 30 minutes at a time during their work day because of the improvements that Mike made. Mike's work exemplifies the GNOME mission of making computing accessible and easy for everyone. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Suggestion about providing more value to Foundation members
Stormy: What if we had a thank you GNOME mailing list or page. People could send in their thanks for specific features or work and we could match it up with the right person. Yes, I think the GNOME community really needs more forums for making sure that people get recognition for the work that they do. Mailing lists and Wiki's seem obvious choices. Also, highlighting people who go above-and-beyond in periodic forums that we publish, such as GNOME Journal is a good idea. The recommendations on LinkedIn or profile pages could then come from me or the board (or anyone from this list that would like some practice at writing recommendations or who is already good at it.) Yes, I think it would be good if there were a few people in the GNOME Community who made an extra effort to make sure that Recommendations get written. It would make sense for people on the board to be expected to do this sort of thing, for example. Having a thank you mailing list would be a good forum for people who have an interest in writing recommendations to keep track of people that they should consider writing up. For example, we get three people writing in to say the new bugzilla is awesome and it saves them 30 minutes a day finding bugs to work on, so the board writes a recommendation on Max/Olav/sys admin team member page saying Mike's work on bugzilla was extremely helpful to GNOME users. Several users wrote into say that they save 30 minutes at a time during their work day because of the improvements that Mike made. Mike's work exemplifies the GNOME mission of making computing accessible and easy for everyone. It might be cool to have a Thank You Wiki on live.gnome.org where we archive these sorts of recommendations or thank yous. Aside from making our community more friendly and personal, it would have other benefits too. This way people who are written up as being great community members can refer to the GNOME Wiki as a testament of their work in addition to whatever recommendations they may get on social networking sites. Most people in the GNOME community have their own private live.gnome.org Wiki page, so the Thank You Wiki could have links to each person's personal page. If people make sure to include a link to their favorite social networking sites on their private live.gnome.org Wiki page, then people can use those links to recommend them. The Thank You Wiki itself could encourage people to add links to such networking sites for this purpose. Then we could also refer to this Thank You Wiki page in various communication (weekly status reports, GNOME Journal, etc.) to encourage people to go there and read about those people who have done the most for the community. I think having a process like this would help to encourage people to actually consider writing more recommendations. Especially if we also encourage people to do the same in various forums. I think a process like this would help to encourage people to get better recognition and to encourage the community to be more thoughtful about writing up recommendations for people on social networking sites without making people feel uncomfortable (like they are fishing for people to write recommendations for them or whatever). Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Suggestion about providing more value to Foundation members
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote: For example, we get three people writing in to say the new bugzilla is awesome and it saves them 30 minutes a day finding bugs to work on, so the board writes a recommendation on Max/Olav/sys admin team member page saying Mike's work on bugzilla was extremely helpful to GNOME users. Several users wrote into say that they save 30 minutes at a time during their work day because of the improvements that Mike made. Mike's work exemplifies the GNOME mission of making computing accessible and easy for everyone. It might be cool to have a Thank You Wiki on live.gnome.org where we archive these sorts of recommendations or thank yous. Aside from making our community more friendly and personal, it would have other benefits too. This way people who are written up as being great community members can refer to the GNOME Wiki as a testament of their work in addition to whatever recommendations they may get on social networking sites. Also we should consider putting people who did good work on the release notes on a GNOME release? I know that on subprojects this occurs but we don't do it on a project level. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Suggestion about providing more value to Foundation members
I would recommend calling out people in the new quarterly reports, maybe as it's own section, rather than GNOME Journal or the release notes. Paul On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote: For example, we get three people writing in to say the new bugzilla is awesome and it saves them 30 minutes a day finding bugs to work on, so the board writes a recommendation on Max/Olav/sys admin team member page saying Mike's work on bugzilla was extremely helpful to GNOME users. Several users wrote into say that they save 30 minutes at a time during their work day because of the improvements that Mike made. Mike's work exemplifies the GNOME mission of making computing accessible and easy for everyone. It might be cool to have a Thank You Wiki on live.gnome.org where we archive these sorts of recommendations or thank yous. Aside from making our community more friendly and personal, it would have other benefits too. This way people who are written up as being great community members can refer to the GNOME Wiki as a testament of their work in addition to whatever recommendations they may get on social networking sites. Also we should consider putting people who did good work on the release notes on a GNOME release? I know that on subprojects this occurs but we don't do it on a project level. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Suggestion about providing more value to Foundation members
I really like this idea. More and more employers are looking for potential employees on LinkedIn. I wonder if we could do this by: (1) Having people update their wiki page on live.gnome.org. (2) Having other people vouch for that work on the wiki and also put that voucher on LinkedIn. If everyone put that they worked with that person at the GNOME Foundation when they filled out their recommendation it would also help raise the visibility and credibility of the GNOME Foundation which in turn would make the recommendations more valuable. How do we encourage people to write recommendations? Could we do some sort of Pass it on campaign? A few of us could write recommendations and then ask the people we recommended to pass it on by recommending two more people. Psst. It's GNOME. Pass it on. What do you think? Stormy On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote: Marketing Team: One thing that I think the GNOME Foundation is not very good about doing is promoting those people who volunteer their time to the project. I think it would help encourage people to participate in the GNOME project if the GNOME community was better able to promote Foundation members and make sure that the good work they do is recognized. To improve this, the GNOME Foundation could do a better job of providing information about who in the community has what responsibilities and perhaps some evaluation of each person's work. This could be useful to volunteers who have an interest in using such references when seeking a job, for example. Perhaps a way to manage this would be to make better use of social networking sites like LinkedIn. Perhaps the GNOME community could have a better process for ensuring that volunteers are recognized in such sites for the work they do by making sure that people have official titles for their responsibilities that they can list on such websites. Some roles in the community, such as that of board members, members of teams like the release team, and module maintainers have some degree of an official title, but I'd think this could be more formalized and there are probably many roles within the community that haven't been given any official title. If we encouraged people in the community, especially people who have official titles to provide Recommendations for others when they do volunteer work, this would be one way that the community could make sure that people get such recognition. But this is just a suggestion, I'm sure that we could find many ways to do more to ensure that people involved in our community are recognized for their efforts. I think it is especially important to ensure that those who volunteer their time are recognized in this sort of way. Thoughts? Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
