Re: back to the survey topic
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 17:52 +, Nelson Marques wrote: I have a machine to test LimeSurvey. During the next 48 hours I'll get the site running with LimeSurvey so we can test it. Anyone willing to test it, please report in and I'll mail a admin password for the backend so people can explore it etc. Nelson Nelson, Thanks for offering to do this, but we already have a Lime Survey instance running on the GNOME.org survey in Behdad's webspace and I opened a bug in Bugzilla for the Sysadmin team to port that over to a more general space on a GNOME server. Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: back to the survey topic
Hi, Nelson Marques wrote: I'm a openSuSE user (I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat, but I don't like Fedora). I know that someone has already pointed this out, but Novell, Red Hat, and Canonical are all GNOME supporters - as are Nokia, Sun Microsystems, Intel, Sugar Labs, the FSF and Debian, all distributors of GNOME-based distributions. Oh - and IBM, Google, Motorola, Mozilla, Igalia, OLPC, SFLC (which currently don't make GNOME based distributions, to my knowledge). If you're talking about who pays the most developers of GNOME, we should know this soon - I am currently running a survey of the GNOME developer community and hope to answer exactly this question - stay tuned for more details around the start of May. I've runned across a survery from SuSE which uses a commercial survey service, surveymonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com http://surveymonkey.com/s/6MJYV7T (openSuSE Survey) Behdad has been using a different service for foundation surveys, LimeSurvey - we have an instance installed on gnome.org already: http://www.limesurvey.org/ We have actually done quite a few surveys in the past year or so - DVCS, GUADEC/Akademy feedback, Friends of GNOME donors... I would recon the would be skepticism about this and the proprietary would jump into play again, so, not being a developer myself and being a marketing personality, I would point the following: don't all opensource system run on top of proprietary microcode (EFI, Legacy BIOS, etc)? Just a thought. Certainly all systems have some drivers in them, but surely we can agree that we should use free software everywhere we can? And running surveys is a place where we can. And in general, in areas where the only software available is proprietary, isn't worth asking the question: can we fill this role with software we build ourselves? For statistical free software, we are spoiled for choice - R has been around for decades, Scilab has some advanced statistical functions too. But in general, on scientific surveys, OpenOffice Calc or Gnumeric are more than enough for the type of analysis we need to do. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
back to the survey topic
Hi all, I'm a openSuSE user (I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat, but I don't like Fedora). I've runned across a survery from SuSE which uses a commercial survey service, surveymonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com http://surveymonkey.com/s/6MJYV7T (openSuSE Survey) I am not aware of software like this available as open source, don't know if anyone knows it. This surveymonkey is interesting, and I've spoken in the past that such platform could be helpfull not only for GNOME Marketing, but to our developers and even to outsource to other projects, or even use to make money to support GNOME. In addition it would most likely allow us to extend a hand to GNOME distributors like RedHat, openSuSE, Mandriva and so on, and eventually we can promote our brande with other brands, like hardware manufacturers and such. I would recon the would be skepticism about this and the proprietary would jump into play again, so, not being a developer myself and being a marketing personality, I would point the following: don't all opensource system run on top of proprietary microcode (EFI, Legacy BIOS, etc)? Just a thought. Feel free to comment and suggest as on next meeting this will be one of the things I will be bringing up. I would love to have such a tool available so we could run our stuff, ge our numbers and implement a real marketing driver project towards specific goals, and of course support all our developers with usefull information regarding whatever they need. I've also found some statistical open source programs meanwhile, this means that there is no need to use SPSS (IBM) or any other proprietary chunk of code. Nelson. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: back to the survey topic
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 09.02.2010, 19:12 + schrieb Nelson Marques: (I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat, but I don't like Fedora). In general I'd be very careful with such statements, as mainly is highly subjective, plus lots of companies are listed on http://foundation.gnome.org/about/advisoryboard/ for your information. I've also found some statistical open source programs meanwhile, this means that there is no need to use SPSS (IBM) or any other proprietary chunk of code. ...which are? :-) andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: back to the survey topic
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 20:38 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 09.02.2010, 19:12 + schrieb Nelson Marques: (I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat, but I don't like Fedora). In general I'd be very careful with such statements, as mainly is highly subjective, plus lots of companies are listed on http://foundation.gnome.org/about/advisoryboard/ for your information. Come on. I am entitled to my personal opinion, and I'm am not in GNOME representation. I am just a contributor who wants to help. Free as in Freedom of Speech (...) - Richard Stallman. I've also found some statistical open source programs meanwhile, this means that there is no need to use SPSS (IBM) or any other proprietary chunk of code. ...which are? :-) PSPP http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/ Way more powerfull than SPSS R http://www.r-project.org/ Not tested it, but looks functional and neat OpenStat http://statpages.org/miller/openstat/ There's way more available if you search google. This are just some of them. PSPP is what I recommend as I've been looking deep into it and going to replace SPSS soon once I test compatibility. andre -- mailto:ak...@gmx.net | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: back to the survey topic
I withdraw what I said. I understod his comment based on not liking Fedora which is related to RedHat. I based my comment on the fact that RedHat/Fedora being the ones giving most relevance to GNOME, and obviously because I was misinformed. peace On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 14:55 -0600, Paul Cutler wrote: Nelson On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 20:25 +, Nelson Marques wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 20:38 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 09.02.2010, 19:12 + schrieb Nelson Marques: (I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat, but I don't like Fedora). In general I'd be very careful with such statements, as mainly is highly subjective, plus lots of companies are listed on http://foundation.gnome.org/about/advisoryboard/ for your information. Come on. I am entitled to my personal opinion, and I'm am not in GNOME representation. I am just a contributor who wants to help. Free as in Freedom of Speech (...) - Richard Stallman. And what Andre is saying, correctly, is that the statement (or opinion) of I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat is not factually correct. GNOME is sponsored by many companies in many different ways, and saying mainly is not correct. snip Paul signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: back to the survey topic
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Nelson Marques 07...@ipam.pt wrote: I'm a openSuSE user (I know GNOME is sponsored mainly by Red Hat, but I don't like Fedora). Red Hat and Novell are both advisory board members and both give $20,000 a year to the GNOME Foundation. They also both contribute by paying people to work full time on GNOME, sponsor hackfests and events like GUADEC. I've runned across a survery from SuSE which uses a commercial survey service, surveymonkey. http://www.surveymonkey.com http://surveymonkey.com/s/6MJYV7T (openSuSE Survey) I am not aware of software like this available as open source, don't know if anyone knows it. Lime Survey is very good and it is open source. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
