marketing meeting next week
So we have a marketing meeting call next week. But a lot of you will be in FOSDEM. I know we decided we would still have it, so how do you want to proceed? Can you setup a conference room? What would be the timing? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
That sounds great to me, a series of interviews with different types of users would be very interesting - let me know when you're ready for the interview and I'll be happy to help out! With some luck (crossing fingers) I will have a nice new Fedora 18 Beta on one of my machines (an HP Mini-Note 2133 I use around the house early in the morning) - I left the installer running today as I dashed out the door to drop my four children off at school... ! -Brett On Dec 12, 2012 10:45 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:18 am, Brett Legree wrote: Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. Greg has agreed to be interviewed for a profile as a GNOME user. I'd love to line up a few of these, and maybe publish them monthly! I was thinking - one on gregkh (the serious hacker type) one on Brett (the technically oriented user) and then do one on someone who's either a designer-type or non-technical user and then one on a business-y type of user. What do you guys think? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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I got fedora 18 beta running on my X1 Carbon.. So sweet! It has some performance issues that is related to the driver. I have to bug Fedora QA about it, I think. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: That sounds great to me, a series of interviews with different types of users would be very interesting - let me know when you're ready for the interview and I'll be happy to help out! With some luck (crossing fingers) I will have a nice new Fedora 18 Beta on one of my machines (an HP Mini-Note 2133 I use around the house early in the morning) - I left the installer running today as I dashed out the door to drop my four children off at school... ! -Brett On Dec 12, 2012 10:45 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:18 am, Brett Legree wrote: Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. Greg has agreed to be interviewed for a profile as a GNOME user. I'd love to line up a few of these, and maybe publish them monthly! I was thinking - one on gregkh (the serious hacker type) one on Brett (the technically oriented user) and then do one on someone who's either a designer-type or non-technical user and then one on a business-y type of user. What do you guys think? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Nice! The X1 Carbon is quite the machine indeed, the HP that I mentioned would cower in fear next to your computer :) (It has a blazing fast VIA C7 processor...) -Brett On Dec 13, 2012 12:35 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I got fedora 18 beta running on my X1 Carbon.. So sweet! It has some performance issues that is related to the driver. I have to bug Fedora QA about it, I think. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: That sounds great to me, a series of interviews with different types of users would be very interesting - let me know when you're ready for the interview and I'll be happy to help out! With some luck (crossing fingers) I will have a nice new Fedora 18 Beta on one of my machines (an HP Mini-Note 2133 I use around the house early in the morning) - I left the installer running today as I dashed out the door to drop my four children off at school... ! -Brett On Dec 12, 2012 10:45 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:18 am, Brett Legree wrote: Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. Greg has agreed to be interviewed for a profile as a GNOME user. I'd love to line up a few of these, and maybe publish them monthly! I was thinking - one on gregkh (the serious hacker type) one on Brett (the technically oriented user) and then do one on someone who's either a designer-type or non-technical user and then one on a business-y type of user. What do you guys think? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:18 am, Brett Legree wrote: Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. Greg has agreed to be interviewed for a profile as a GNOME user. I'd love to line up a few of these, and maybe publish them monthly! I was thinking - one on gregkh (the serious hacker type) one on Brett (the technically oriented user) and then do one on someone who's either a designer-type or non-technical user and then one on a business-y type of user. What do you guys think? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Hi, On 12/08/2012 03:29 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It shows that we can't seem to get a decent experience using VOIP. Gosh if we only had some telepathy people who can help out in this. :-) You know, I bet there are a bunch of them hanging out on a different mailing list :-) Maybe http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/telepathy would be a good place to ask? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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We still had some trouble with people joining the call using SIP. If you had problems in the past, please let me know and we can try to figure out how to get it working. I know Allan has had some issues. I was able to connect with the following configurations: a) Nokia N9 + iptel.org free account (https://serweb.iptel.org/user/reg/) Create a SIP account (use the Account icon) add your_usern...@iptel.org and password use default options (no need for advanced settings) After that, you will be able to make SIP calls Call to the sip address c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com enter the pin when you're asked for I use this page to learn about this: http://www.seidea.com/2012/04/22/how-do-i-set-up-sip-voip-service-in-my-nokia-n9/ b) Fedora 18 + Ekiga 4 + ekiga.net free account (https://www.ekiga.net/?page=register) Use the Configuration Assistant You only need to add your user and password you don't need to sign up a call out account use default options Use the dialpad and enter sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com enter the pin when you're asked for Ekiga has a wiki that can resolve some problems http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Main_Page Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 01:49:10PM +, Juanjo Marín wrote: b) Fedora 18 + Ekiga 4 + ekiga.net free account (https://www.ekiga.net/?page=register) Use the Configuration Assistant You only need to add your user and password you don't need to sign up a call out account use default options Use the dialpad and enter sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com enter the pin when you're asked for How did you enter the PIN? I used Ekiga 4.0.0, but couldn't figure out how to enter it. I didn't add any account though.. seems to connect without it just fine. Wondering if that is the reason why I cannot enter a PIN… -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Not a bad idea, Dave! I will do just that. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 12/08/2012 03:29 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: It shows that we can't seem to get a decent experience using VOIP. Gosh if we only had some telepathy people who can help out in this. :-) You know, I bet there are a bunch of them hanging out on a different mailing list :-) Maybe http://lists.freedesktop.org/**mailman/listinfo/telepathyhttp://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/telepathywould be a good place to ask? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary, Lyon, France Email: dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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So I have a conflict. I have some training that I have to take that is pretty much all day on Wednesday so I won't be able to make the call. Or if I do I cannot stay over. So we can either move it to Tuesday or Thursday. Would Tuesday be okay for everyone? sri On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for keeping up the momentum, Sri. I am current free at the same time next week. I'd be interested in talking about how we can generate more positive news about GNOME. Allan On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 06:10:44PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 01:49:10PM +, Juanjo Marín wrote: b) Fedora 18 + Ekiga 4 + ekiga.net free account (https://www.ekiga.net/?page=register) Use the Configuration Assistant You only need to add your user and password you don't need to sign up a call out account use default options Use the dialpad and enter sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com enter the pin when you're asked for How did you enter the PIN? I used Ekiga 4.0.0, but couldn't figure out how to enter it. I didn't add any account though.. seems to connect without it just fine. Wondering if that is the reason why I cannot enter a PIN… Figured it out. In preferences under SIP settings, make sure DTMF mode is set to RFC2833. Then you can use the numbers in the dialpad to enter the PIN. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Awesome Olav! Sri: Tuesday or Thursday work fine for me too :) On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 06:10:44PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 01:49:10PM +, Juanjo Marín wrote: b) Fedora 18 + Ekiga 4 + ekiga.net free account (https://www.ekiga.net/?page=register) Use the Configuration Assistant You only need to add your user and password you don't need to sign up a call out account use default options Use the dialpad and enter sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com enter the pin when you're asked for How did you enter the PIN? I used Ekiga 4.0.0, but couldn't figure out how to enter it. I didn't add any account though.. seems to connect without it just fine. Wondering if that is the reason why I cannot enter a PIN… Figured it out. In preferences under SIP settings, make sure DTMF mode is set to RFC2833. Then you can use the numbers in the dialpad to enter the PIN. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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It shows that we can't seem to get a decent experience using VOIP. Gosh if we only had some telepathy people who can help out in this. :-) You know, I bet there are a bunch of them hanging out on a different mailing list :-) Maybe http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/telepathy would be a good place to ask? Working on it: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2012-November/msg8.html I know that people have problems connecting to SIP, but I also know that some people (eg., sjoerd on #telepathy, #empathy) do use it. So, if you want quick workarounds or tricks, ask him. Cheers, Debarshi -- There are two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things and off-by-one errors. pgpRvk9xtM8wI.pgp Description: PGP signature -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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I'll be in the middle of a lunch meeting then, however, as I'll be calling in by phone for the real call next week, it shouldn't be a problem. Brett On Dec 7, 2012 1:57 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Thanks Karen for setting this up! The current bits of software that we have been trying out so far has been: * Ekiga * Twinkle * linphone More choices here: http://www.voipsupply.com/blog/free-sip-softphone-roundup sri On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, December 6, 2012 1:11 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Why don't we do the test call tomorrow (Friday) at 17:30 UTC? That's 6:30pm Europe/12:30pm east coast/9:30am west coast. Here's dial-in information: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 7925 karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Thanks for keeping up the momentum, Sri. I am current free at the same time next week. I'd be interested in talking about how we can generate more positive news about GNOME. Allan On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Great! Yes, Katherine Noyes is another friendly, positive person I had in mind. That's a good plan - to figure out what we want to showcase, and then start writing and submitting. One thing I've noticed a lot of detractors say is that you can't do 'real work' with GNOME - which is a load of hullabaloo, as we know. Surely the people who code it, design it, and so forth are using it. Greg KH uses it on at least one of his systems, and what he does is pretty intense. I'm a nuclear engineer and when I'm using Linux, GNOME is my graphical shell of choice (I don't use it to design reactors, but I use it to do engineering consulting work and it does the job just fine - the nature of the UI helps me to stay focused on the task at hand, distraction free). So obviously it isn't just for Facebook and frivolous things - which all of us know, but the idea is to get the message out there. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:05 am, Brett Legree wrote: Great! Yes, Katherine Noyes is another friendly, positive person I had in mind. That's a good plan - to figure out what we want to showcase, and then start writing and submitting. One thing I've noticed a lot of detractors say is that you can't do 'real work' with GNOME - which is a load of hullabaloo, as we know. Surely the people who code it, design it, and so forth are using it. Greg KH uses it on at least one of his systems, and what he does is pretty intense. Great - I'll contact Greg! I'm a nuclear engineer and when I'm using Linux, GNOME is my graphical shell of choice (I don't use it to design reactors, but I use it to do engineering consulting work and it does the job just fine - the nature of the UI helps me to stay focused on the task at hand, distraction free). Wow! You should write this up in more detail then this can be some of the content we use :) karen So obviously it isn't just for Facebook and frivolous things - which all of us know, but the idea is to get the message out there. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:05 am, Brett Legree wrote: Great! Yes, Katherine Noyes is another friendly, positive person I had in mind. That's a good plan - to figure out what we want to showcase, and then start writing and submitting. One thing I've noticed a lot of detractors say is that you can't do 'real work' with GNOME - which is a load of hullabaloo, as we know. Surely the people who code it, design it, and so forth are using it. Greg KH uses it on at least one of his systems, and what he does is pretty intense. Great - I'll contact Greg! I'm a nuclear engineer and when I'm using Linux, GNOME is my graphical shell of choice (I don't use it to design reactors, but I use it to do engineering consulting work and it does the job just fine - the nature of the UI helps me to stay focused on the task at hand, distraction free). Wow! You should write this up in more detail then this can be some of the content we use :) I agree - that sounds very cool! *I* certainly want to read about it :) Emily karen So obviously it isn't just for Facebook and frivolous things - which all of us know, but the idea is to get the message out there. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 10:11 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:05 am, Brett Legree wrote: Great! Yes, Katherine Noyes is another friendly, positive person I had in mind. That's a good plan - to figure out what we want to showcase, and then start writing and submitting. One thing I've noticed a lot of detractors say is that you can't do 'real work' with GNOME - which is a load of hullabaloo, as we know. Surely the people who code it, design it, and so forth are using it. Greg KH uses it on at least one of his systems, and what he does is pretty intense. Great - I'll contact Greg! I'm a nuclear engineer and when I'm using Linux, GNOME is my graphical shell of choice (I don't use it to design reactors, but I use it to do engineering consulting work and it does the job just fine - the nature of the UI helps me to stay focused on the task at hand, distraction free). Wow! You should write this up in more detail then this can be some of the content we use :) I agree - that sounds very cool! *I* certainly want to read about it :) Emily karen So obviously it isn't just for Facebook and frivolous things - which all of us know, but the idea is to get the message out there. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic
Re: marketing test call tomorrow (Friday) (was Re: marketing meeting next week!)
Yeah, that's why I wanted to do the test call so that we can actually document a working setup. Otherwise we'll just be messing around again. sri On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: I've spent some time trying to setup SIP on my Android phone this morning. It's pretty confusing and I'm still uncertain about which provider to sign up with. Surely there's a better solution. Allan On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be in the middle of a lunch meeting then, however, as I'll be calling in by phone for the real call next week, it shouldn't be a problem. Brett On Dec 7, 2012 1:57 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Thanks Karen for setting this up! The current bits of software that we have been trying out so far has been: * Ekiga * Twinkle * linphone More choices here: http://www.voipsupply.com/blog/free-sip-softphone-roundup sri On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, December 6, 2012 1:11 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Why don't we do the test call tomorrow (Friday) at 17:30 UTC? That's 6:30pm Europe/12:30pm east coast/9:30am west coast. Here's dial-in information: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 7925 karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
OK, since I have not heard any other objections, we will set it same bat time, same bat channel next week. We still had some trouble with people joining the call using SIP. If you had problems in the past, please let me know and we can try to figure out how to get it working. I know Allan has had some issues. It shows that we can't seem to get a decent experience using VOIP. Gosh if we only had some telepathy people who can help out in this. :-) sri On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for keeping up the momentum, Sri. I am current free at the same time next week. I'd be interested in talking about how we can generate more positive news about GNOME. Allan On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing test call tomorrow (Friday) (was Re: marketing meeting next week!)
On Thu, December 6, 2012 1:11 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Why don't we do the test call tomorrow (Friday) at 17:30 UTC? That's 6:30pm Europe/12:30pm east coast/9:30am west coast. Here's dial-in information: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 7925 karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing test call tomorrow (Friday) (was Re: marketing meeting next week!)
Thanks Karen for setting this up! The current bits of software that we have been trying out so far has been: * Ekiga * Twinkle * linphone More choices here: http://www.voipsupply.com/blog/free-sip-softphone-roundup sri On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, December 6, 2012 1:11 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Why don't we do the test call tomorrow (Friday) at 17:30 UTC? That's 6:30pm Europe/12:30pm east coast/9:30am west coast. Here's dial-in information: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 7925 karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
marketing meeting next week!
Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 16:00 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) How come the meeting has to be in some Google service instead of our own marketing IRC channel? Google Hangouts are really nice for video conferencing. I find them more effective than IRC for meetings, plus it's more personal. But we can use IRC if anyone has a serious objection. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Fri, March 16, 2012 6:59 am, Allan Day wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 16:00 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) How come the meeting has to be in some Google service instead of our own marketing IRC channel? Google Hangouts are really nice for video conferencing. I find them more effective than IRC for meetings, plus it's more personal. But we can use IRC if anyone has a serious objection. FWIW, I'd much rather use IRC than google services :) Karen Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
Regardless of whether it's Google services or not, I'd like to put in a word for video calls. In the past year and a half, I've come to really appreciate video calls. In my experience, meetings held via video are universally more on track and productive. I much prefer them over phone only calls now. They do tend to have more technical difficulties and they often get started more slowly as people figure out technical difficulties. IRC, etherpad, and even phone, don't seem to have that problem. They also require a good internet connection and the right hardware. Stormy On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 16, 2012 6:59 am, Allan Day wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 16:00 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) How come the meeting has to be in some Google service instead of our own marketing IRC channel? Google Hangouts are really nice for video conferencing. I find them more effective than IRC for meetings, plus it's more personal. But we can use IRC if anyone has a serious objection. FWIW, I'd much rather use IRC than google services :) Karen Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: ... In the past year and a half, I've come to really appreciate video calls. In my experience, meetings held via video are universally more on track and productive. I much prefer them over phone only calls now. ... That's been my recent experience too. It'd be great to avoid Google but I'm yet to find a good alternative. Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 17:23 +, Allan Day wrote: On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: ... In the past year and a half, I've come to really appreciate video calls. In my experience, meetings held via video are universally more on track and productive. I much prefer them over phone only calls now. ... That's been my recent experience too. It'd be great to avoid Google but I'm yet to find a good alternative. Allan I've been quite happy with the inclusion of a meetbot during IRC meetings. It totally automates the minutes, action items, info points and logging in a way I can't see video conferencing achieve. Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
Hi, On 03/16/2012 06:26 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: I've been quite happy with the inclusion of a meetbot during IRC meetings. It totally automates the minutes, action items, info points and logging in a way I can't see video conferencing achieve. Personally I think meetbot minutes can't hold a candle to human written/typed minutes. Most meetbot minutes look like this to me: Meeting started by nick1 at 16:00:46 UTC (full logs). Meeting summary: * Topic 1 (nick1, 16:05:03) * url (nick2, 16:23:22) * ACTION: Update proposal (nick1, 16:35:19) * Topic 2 (nick1, 16:38:01) * ACTION: Request comments on mailing list (nick2, 16:58:12) Meeting ended at 16:59:30 UTC (full logs). Basically useless - and you need to read the full logs to get any information. MeetBot automates nothing - it requires someone responsible for minutes during the meeting. Also, meetings that aren't linear, but where someone wants to add something at the end of a meeting related to something earlier, are a mess in meetbot. Unstacking actions, or changing stuff that is already minuted, is really hard. But we do this with written minutes all the time. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Regardless of whether it's Google services or not, I'd like to put in a word for video calls. In the past year and a half, I've come to really appreciate video calls. In my experience, meetings held via video are universally more on track and productive. I much prefer them over phone only calls now. Yes, in fact, I think part of the reason we got news-test.gnome.org going so quickly was that we were able to figure out all that is required and then get things moving quickly.. I think hangouts will even let you share your computer desktop which even VNC doesn't do quite job of that. They do tend to have more technical difficulties and they often get started more slowly as people figure out technical difficulties. IRC, etherpad, and even phone, don't seem to have that problem. They also require a good internet connection and the right hardware. This is true. I wish we could find a good open source platform for this kind of thing. I've searched a lot but nothing seems to be up to par. sri Stormy On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, March 16, 2012 6:59 am, Allan Day wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 16:00 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) How come the meeting has to be in some Google service instead of our own marketing IRC channel? Google Hangouts are really nice for video conferencing. I find them more effective than IRC for meetings, plus it's more personal. But we can use IRC if anyone has a serious objection. FWIW, I'd much rather use IRC than google services :) Karen Allan -- IRC: aday on irc.gnome.org Blog: http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 18:46 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, On 03/16/2012 06:26 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: I've been quite happy with the inclusion of a meetbot during IRC meetings. It totally automates the minutes, action items, info points and logging in a way I can't see video conferencing achieve. Personally I think meetbot minutes can't hold a candle to human written/typed minutes. Most meetbot minutes look like this to me: Meeting started by nick1 at 16:00:46 UTC (full logs). Meeting summary: * Topic 1 (nick1, 16:05:03) * url (nick2, 16:23:22) * ACTION: Update proposal (nick1, 16:35:19) * Topic 2 (nick1, 16:38:01) * ACTION: Request comments on mailing list (nick2, 16:58:12) Meeting ended at 16:59:30 UTC (full logs). Basically useless - and you need to read the full logs to get any information. MeetBot automates nothing - it requires someone responsible for minutes during the meeting. Also, meetings that aren't linear, but where someone wants to add something at the end of a meeting related to something earlier, are a mess in meetbot. Unstacking actions, or changing stuff that is already minuted, is really hard. But we do this with written minutes all the time. Cheers, Dave. Agreed. I try to go for Executive Summary (human written) after the meetbot has done its job. But I find the two tools together make for the perfect magical combination rather than one or the other. The meetbot can be useful that someone can volunteer to make a human-friendly minutes without even being present at the meeting because of transcripts etc. How do you get a transcript of a video conference? That seems to only be useful for those who are present at the meeting, but not for those who are unable to attend the meeting but still want to read the meeting transcript? Bryen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.comwrote: The meetbot can be useful that someone can volunteer to make a human-friendly minutes without even being present at the meeting because of transcripts etc. How do you get a transcript of a video conference? That seems to only be useful for those who are present at the meeting, but not for those who are unable to attend the meeting but still want to read the meeting transcript? You take good minutes. Etherpad is a good tool for that. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) Agenda: * talk about the GNOME 3.4 release * Current marketing projects http://www.doodle.com/2ya325ssgyat9zpd Thanks for kick starting this, Sri. It looks like we've had a decent number of responses already. I've started adding some agenda items to the wiki [1]. Allan [1] https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 16:00 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) How come the meeting has to be in some Google service instead of our own marketing IRC channel? Bryen Agenda: * talk about the GNOME 3.4 release * Current marketing projects http://www.doodle.com/2ya325ssgyat9zpd sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Meeting next week.
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Bryen M Yunashko a11yro...@bryen.comwrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 16:00 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have setup a doodle for a marketing meeting using google hangouts. Please RSVP what would be the best time. If I'm missing a convenient time zone, please let me know. All the times are London times, (GMT -7 for west coast, -6 for mountain, etc) How come the meeting has to be in some Google service instead of our own marketing IRC channel? i was thinking it might be a fast way of exchanging information. We can do it in IRC as well. sri Bryen Agenda: * talk about the GNOME 3.4 release * Current marketing projects http://www.doodle.com/2ya325ssgyat9zpd sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
