[Marxism] Abbott gov't the most pro-Israel ever

2014-08-10 Thread Stuart Munckton via Marxism
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On the same day, the bodies of 16 people were pulled from the rubble of a
United Nations school sheltering Palestinian refugees that Israeli forces
had bombed. AFP said http://maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=717045 it
was “the second time in a week that a UN school housing refugees has been
hit, and the sixth in two weeks”.

On the same day in Jerusalem, Australia’s government sent a very different
message to Israel. As keynote speaker at the Australia-Israel-UK Leadership
Dialogue, Australian education minister Christopher Pyne said
http://www.jwire.com.au/news/pyne-jerusalem/44886: “Israel is the beacon
of freedom and liberty in the Middle East.”
https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/57071

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original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made,
through disobedience and through rebellion.” — Oscar Wilde, Soul of Man
Under Socialism

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Re: [Marxism] more thoughts on Gaza

2014-08-10 Thread Joseph Catron via Marxism
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On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Gary MacLennan via Marxism 
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote:

Things fall apart...


Randomly and existentially, and perhaps of interest to nobody, that damn
poem keeps turning up in this context:

https://twitter.com/jncatron/status/495677525020782593

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Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen
lytlað.

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[Marxism] Zionists held Hebrew-language Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer signs in Tel Aviv last night

2014-08-10 Thread Joseph Catron via Marxism
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Sometimes things fall apart. Sometimes they just come full circle.

As tweeted by David Sheen and Max Blumenthal:

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/498195233956298752
https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498370287453220864
https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498371275190845441
https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498378445265453057
https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/498414697322774529

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[Marxism] Guess which country? Soldiers probed for 'fraternizing with minorities'

2014-08-10 Thread Joseph Catron via Marxism
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And no fair peeking!

http://bit.ly/1pJpaiM

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[Marxism] Fwd: Jewish group that sent email promising action denies role in Steven Salaita firing | The Electronic Intifada

2014-08-10 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/jewish-group-sent-email-promising-action-denies-role-steven-salaita-firing

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[Marxism] Anti-imperialists protesting US war on Iraq?

2014-08-10 Thread Michael Karadjis via Marxism

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For days now, the US military has been launching air strikes against the 
reactionary Sunni-fascist group Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (ISIS, or 
just IS now) in Iraq. Yet, strangely, not only have I not seen any 
evidence of anti-war demonstrations, or organising for them, I have also 
not seen the entire faux-left cybersphere full of fulminating attacks 
on US imperialist intervention, with everyone repeating and slightly 
re-wording the same half-baked, evidence-free article, like we saw last 
August during the alleged build-up to an entirely imaginary US attack on 
the reactionary, secular-fascist regime of Bashar Assad in Syria.


The geopolitics is of course interesting. While the Syrian regime of 
Assad barely fired a shot at ISIS for an entire year (and vice versa), 
and instead both focused on crushing the Free Syrian Army (FSA, and its 
more moderate Islamist allies, and also Jabhat al-Nusra), often even 
directly and blatantly collaborating against the FSA, and in oil deals, 
and the West, forever refusing to send even a bullet to the FSA under 
the bullshit rubric that such arms might get into the hands of 
extremists, even though for the whole year, the only force in the 
entire region (apart from the Kurds) that were actually fighting ISIS 
(the worst extremists) were the FSA and its allies (and indeed are still 
furiously resisting ISIS in Syria right now); well now that the US is 
bombing ISIS, and bolstering and arming Assad's ally, the sectarian-Shia 
regime of Maliki, so now the Assad regime and ISIS have also FINALLY 
come to blows! What an amazing coincidence!


Anyway, let's try to figure out some differences for anti-war western 
leftists.


Perhaps we should only oppose US  interventions when they are just a 
figment of our imaginations, as opposed to ones that are actually 
happening in our face.


Perhaps we should only oppose imaginary US interventions when the US 
shows that it is impossible to intervene without going around in a whole 
lot of circles like countless committee meetings, taking a war proposal 
to Congress for the first time in half a century etc, whereas when the 
US shows that you can order air strikes without all that pretense, then 
it is OK.


Perhaps it should depend on the degree of imaginary anti-imperialism 
of the reactionary tyrants under real or imaginary US attack. So 
apparently, since the Syrian Baath regime has collaborated with US 
imperialism for decades, right up to the rendition and torture program 
of terror suspects on behalf of the US in very recent times, and 
slaughtered Palestinians and their camps and organisations and militants 
with a passion rivalling the Zionist regime, we should defend such a 
well-intentioned regime, whereas a regime like ISIS which is totally, 
fundamentally anti-imperialist to the core (I don't use that as a 
compliment, rather it is a neutral statement), then we should not oppose 
a US attack.


Perhaps we should look at who has done the most slaughtering. Both of 
course are monstrous tyrants to the core and neither has any redeeming 
feature whatsoever. But since ISIS has probably killed several thousand, 
and Assad has pretty much levelled every city in Syria, turned the whole 
country to rubble, killed over 100,000 people to be generous, tortured 
tens of thousands to death in medieval dungeons, bombed hospitals and 
schools with a fury rivalling Israel in Gaza, and at that very time, 
last August, had bombed hundreds of children in their sleep with 
chemical weapons, of course we should defend only Assad, not ISIS.


Perhaps someone could offer some other suggestions. 



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