Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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The *Washington Post* got it right: "The success in shutting down Trump’s 
appearance was both organized and organic — the latest clash in a city where an 
energized activist network has frequently disrupted daily life with protests 
over high-profile police shootings of black men. In November, Black Friday 
shopping ended when thousands of protestors lined Michigan Avenue, refusing 
entry to shoppers."

Perhaps people outside of the Chicago area do not understand how organized and 
organic the demonstration against Trump was, but it was both--and experienced 
organizers were involved. But the organizing by youth was especially impressive 
and inspiring.

--Kevin Lindemann

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[Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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Clay Claiborne writes:
On 3/13/2016 2:56 PM, Ken Hiebert via Marxism wrote:
> We are with those who are coming out to oppose Trump, without reservation.
What does that mean really? "without reservation.?"  I'll tell you what 
I think it means: It means "without leadership" certainly from activists 
that hold that position. Without criticism and concern for strategy 
there can be no leadership.
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Ken Hiebert replies:
I think an older generation of activists may have something useful to say on 
questions of tactics.  And on the merit of going into Trump's rallies.  We 
should not expect the younger activists to listen to us unless they see us as 
fellow fighters, as people on their side.  
Standing with them on the street, we may get a hearing for our views.
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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On 3/13/2016 4:22 PM, Greg McDonald via Marxism wrote:

Some time ago a few of us were
>joking that Trump was Hillary's manchurian candidate.
I've heard that rumor too. That Bill put him up to it. It might even be 
true but then Trump proved to be too good at it. Stole the game. Now 
some Democrats are hoping he will be the GOP nominee, thinking he will 
be easiest to beat. I think that's playing with fire. He has obviously 
been successful in conning big media into backing him. He may even be 
successful in getting big capital to back him. They will all learn to 
regret it. Like Hitler & Mussolini, he will prove to be a disaster for all.

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[Marxism] Capitalism, imperialism, super-exploitation

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https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/03/04/capitalism-imperialism-profit-and-finance/

https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/imperialism-and-super-exploitation/
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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On 3/13/2016 4:16 PM, Glenn Kissack via Marxism wrote:

So here’s an interesting dilemma for Sanders supporters who are justifiably 
unhappy with the sway of the billionaire class. If Trump is the nominee it 
looks as though Clinton will be the favored candidate of most of that class, 
including many who would normally back the GOP candidate.

So Sanders supporters who resign themselves to voting for the lesser of two 
evils — supposedly Hillary — will be voting for the choice of the very people 
they dislike.
It seems like this dilemma is pretty generic to the fight against rising 
fascism generally. It is likely everywhere to split the billionaire 
class and this will temporarily put a section of them on the side of the 
people in the fight against fascism, and then the people have to decide 
how to deal with that.


We saw how that played out in world-historic terms around WWII, but such 
nasty dilemmas will also come up in the fight against Trump.

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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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On 3/13/2016 2:59 PM, Greg McDonald via Marxism wrote:

For the sake of argument, let's pretend Trump did initiate a set-up.
Let's instead hear some sound counters to my arguments that it was a 
setup. Again:
How many Trump rallies have been held in the heart of a major city, on 
a university campus? http://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule Today he 
rallies at the Synergy Flight Center in Bloomington, IL., then he does 
his "Cincinnati Town Hall" in West Chester, OH 25 miles from downtown 
Cincinnati. Then its off to the Sunset Cove Amphitheater in Boca 
Raton, Fl. Tomorrow he'll be at Lenoir-Rhyne University in Hickory, 
NC, an 86% white Christian school. These are much more his style. The 
choice of UIC, in the DT Chicago and home of Black Youth Project 100, 
stands out like a sore thumb. But the choice of that venue plus the 
fact that while it is another characteristic of Trump rallies that 
they make every effort to insure that only Trump supporters get in, 
such policing was dropped for this event,
Add to that the way he has been systematically building the rhetoric of 
confrontation with protesters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuTe_sAI-UQ


So please, let's not pretend and do take all that on board:

  If so,
it backfired. The MSM and sunday afternoon network talking heads have been
having a field day.
I think you would be well advised to hold any verdict as whether it 
backfired on not until after the voting on Tuesday.


I was in Chicago for the 1968 DNC and organizing on the Southside in the 
early 70's before Obama, so I know a little about Northern Illinois, but 
I was in St. Louis for 8 year, worked with activists in East St. Louis, 
Granite city & Danville, so I know even more about Southern Illinois and 
I think Trump planned this with the good-ole boys downstate in mind, far 
from Democratic Chicago and the Sunday morning talking heads. I think he 
is seriously playing a long game to become POTUS and then some. I think 
this little stunt was designed to rally them to the polls to vote for 
Trump, so I will wait until after Tuesday before I render a verdict on 
its effectiveness.

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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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On 3/13/2016 2:56 PM, Ken Hiebert via Marxism wrote:

We are with those who are coming out to oppose Trump, without reservation.
What does that mean really? "without reservation.?"  I'll tell you what 
I think it means: It means "without leadership" certainly from activists 
that hold that position. Without criticism and concern for strategy 
there can be no leadership.

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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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On 3/13/2016 2:39 PM, Manuel Barrera via Marxism wrote:

Geez, it sounds, Clay, like you (and unfortunately too many others) seem to 
think that Black and Brown youth response to the ongoing racist, xenophobic 
violence and threats of violence by Trump and the racists he has emboldened 
were somehow ill-advised in exerting their RIGHT to stand up against it.

Manuel,

You're assertion of their RIGHT, reminds me of the saying "The road to 
hell is paved with good intentions."


I say, in essence, our troops rode into an ambush, and you response with 
"their RIGHT to stand up against it." So I have to ask you: What's your 
point? Of course they have "the RIGHT" to fight the enemy whenever and 
wherever they can. They even have the RIGHT to ride into an ambush. I 
just think it ill-advised to do so.


A UIC venue not really controlled by UIC [ a home of the BLM and 46% 
white] the week before the Illinois primary was ground of Trump's 
choosing. That's doesn't mean we shouldn't meet him on it. There are 
many factors to consider. It does mean we mustn't approach these 
questions any less strategically than Trump. Justifying a dog whistle 
response to his provocation with talk about RIGHTS is not on.


And I don't fault the Black and Brown youth for this error because they 
lack the political wisdom that comes with experience.  The article Kevin 
forwarded to this thread was very informative in this regard,
But during the meeting, when the question was raised, “How many people 
here have been to a protest?” 20 of the 100 students present raised 
their hands. Then the question was asked, “How many have organized a 
protest?” only a few hands went up.
Kevin finds that very inspiring. I find it very depressing. Very 
depressing indeed that in a city that has a Left radical history going 
back as long as I can remember, there was so little in the way of 
experienced leaders to guide them. Given the relative lack of 
leadership, which is not their fault, I expect they will ride into quite 
a few ambushes and sadly learn other things the hard way, but then I am 
one who blames this whole sorry state of affairs on a "Left" that has 
been almost completely captured by phonies.


Yes, the article was inspiring as to how they organized the disruption 
so quickly but it also doesn't indicate that ten minutes of thought or 
discussion was ever given as to what Trump's motive in planning the UIC 
rally was, how it would likely effect Tuesday's primary vote, what Trump 
expected to get out of it. They just knew that he held it there they 
would come, as did he.

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Who the Hell is Supporting Donald Trump?

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I think you're spot on. I lived in central Florida during the 90s and it
was a scary place. It was full of angry white men who had recently lost
their jobs back in Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, places like that. They blamed
Mexicans, Chinese, basically anyone who wasn't like them. I had a couple
over the years approach me about joining a militia. When they realized what
I was really about I felt like I had a bullseye painted on my back.
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/who-does-wall-street-want-be-president?cid=sm_fb_msnbc

Famed investor Byron Wien of Blackrock, who previously spent 21 years at
Morgan Stanley, voiced major concerns when it comes to Donald Trump
potential ascension to the White House.

“Donald Trump is attacking Mexico, he’s attacking pretty much all of
Europe, he’s attacking the Muslim religion and he’s not denounced the Klu
Klux Klan,” noted Wien.

“It has been, so far, a difficult year. I think it will be a down year, and
I didn’t [initially] anticipate Donald Trump’s ascendency, but he’ll
contribute to that,” the investor added.

Economists on both the left and right have had choice words for Trump’s
controversial positions on trade and immigration. Some think his threat to
slap tariffs on China could lead to a trade war, or even a global
recession. Wien also faulted the billionaire real estate mogul’s plans on
trade, which could isolate the U.S. economy from major trading partners.

*READ MORE: How Bernie Sanders supporters shut down a Donald Trump rally in
Chicago
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Joseph Grano, who as a key figure in the merger between UBS and PaineWebber
and now works as Chairman and CEO of Centurion Holdings, echoed Wien’s
concerns.

“Donald’s got to show us some depth,” warned Grano, who also served as
Chairman of the Homeland Security Advisory Council. “If he doesn’t start
acting more presidential, and tone down the hyperbole and the rhetoric, he
may get the [GOP] nomination, but I don’t think he can win the presidency.”
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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> Hillary is counting on that, actually. Some time ago a few of us were
> joking that Trump was Hillary's manchurian candidate.
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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Meanwhile, the GOP billionaire donor class is pulling its hair out trying to 
stop Trump from being the nominee:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aei-world-forum-donald-trump_us_56ddbd38e4b0ffe6f8ea125d?ir=Politics=us_politics

So here’s an interesting dilemma for Sanders supporters who are justifiably 
unhappy with the sway of the billionaire class. If Trump is the nominee it 
looks as though Clinton will be the favored candidate of most of that class, 
including many who would normally back the GOP candidate.

So Sanders supporters who resign themselves to voting for the lesser of two 
evils — supposedly Hillary — will be voting for the choice of the very people 
they dislike.

I’m reading Doug Henwood’s book about Hillary: My Turn, which convincingly 
shows why the Clintons are loved by the oligarchy.

Glenn
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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First rule in understanding a media pig is to realize that, for them, all
publicity is good publicity.  So long as it keeps Trump's bullying threats
at the top of the News, he's the beneficiary.  As we've seen through this
entire campaign, the more negative coverage he gets, it actually just feeds
his supporters with reasons to like him more.

ML
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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For the sake of argument, let's pretend Trump did initiate a set-up. If so,
it backfired. The MSM and sunday afternoon network talking heads have been
having a field day.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/03/13/sunday-political-talk-shows-condemn-trump-for-i/209218
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[Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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Andrew Pollack said;
This is not a leading question, it's an honest attempt at clarity:
Of the people of color or other anti-Trumpers who were pushed around,
beaten, threatened etc. at Trump events: what percent were inside the
events?
I am NOT saying they deserved it, whether inside or out.
I AM saying that if a Trumper came to a progressive event and started
yelling, we would usher them out, perhaps even with force.
And I AM saying that in the battle against right-wingers, defensive
formulations matter.
Physically stopping (with help from the pavement) attacks on our picket
lines, meetings, mosques, etc., is essential. As is proactively building
the movements which Trumpers would love to crush.
But provoking Trumpette violence is just tactical stupidity.
Opinions?


Ken Hiebert replies:
Of course I speak from a distance.
We are with those who are coming out to oppose Trump, without reservation.  
Given the diffuse and elemental nature of the movement, the only place to 
engage with the activists is at the rallies.  I think it would be permissible 
to be on the street outside a Trump rally with a placard and to refrain from 
going in.  This might allow you to explain your thinking to the activists, to 
begin to connect.
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[Marxism] Stalin, Russia’s New Hero

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NY Times Op-Ed, Mar. 13 2016
Stalin, Russia’s New Hero
By ALEC LUHN

Penza, Russia — AT School No. 58 in Penza, a regional capital that is an 
eight and a half hour drive southeast of Moscow, the jury is still out 
on Joseph Stalin.


“He was a great man, unique in history,” Zhenya Viktorov, an 11th 
grader, told me on a recent visit. His classmate Amina Kurayev was more 
circumspect: “It wasn’t as terrible as they say.”


And what about the millions of Soviets who were shot or sent to the 
gulags? “No one was repressed for no reason,” Zhenya said. When I asked 
him how many political opponents Stalin killed, he told me “thousands,” 
and argued that the purges weren’t as “big or inhumane as the media 
likes to say.”


At least 15 million people were killed in prisons and labor camps under 
Stalin and his predecessor Vladimir Lenin, according to Alexander 
Yakovlev, who led a commission on rehabilitating victims of political 
repression under President Boris N. Yeltsin. Estimates vary, but 
Stalin’s victims alone certainly number in the millions.


And yet views like Zhenya’s are becoming more common in Russia. Polls 
show a gradual improvement in perceptions of Stalin, who led the Soviet 
Union from the late 1920s until his death in 1953. A survey released on 
March 1 by the Levada Center, a research organization based in Moscow, 
found that 40 percent of Russians thought the Stalin era brought “more 
good than bad,” up from 27 percent in 2012. In an annual Levada survey 
published in January 2015, a majority of Russians (52 percent) said 
Stalin “probably” or “definitely” played a positive role in the country.


This quiet rehabilitation began after Vladimir V. Putin came to power in 
1999. Stalin’s legacy has become a tacit justification as the Putin 
government has strengthened its own grip on power. Under Stalin, “order” 
and national prestige trumped human rights or civil liberties.


“By raising the figure of Stalin, the Putin regime is trying to raise 
the idea that collective interests are more important than individual 
lives, and that means the regime has less responsibility to society,” 
Lev Gudkov, who conducts the Levada Center’s Stalin polls, told me.


Here in Penza, the Communist Party opened a Stalin Center in December. 
It’s just a few rooms of old photographs and newspapers and a lecture 
hall with a giant portrait of Stalin, but it makes a statement. A golden 
bust of Stalin stands in front of the building.


Sites like these are becoming more and more common. In 2015, the 
Communist Party, which has 92 of 450 seats in Parliament and often toes 
the Kremlin line, raised a banner with pictures of Lenin and Stalin as 
the backdrop for the party plenary session. At Victory Day celebrations 
last May 9, his image adorned a fence next to a Moscow police station. 
Moscow’s best-known bookstore was recently promoting a book called “How 
Stalin Defeated Corruption.”


School textbooks and state television programs, even if they briefly 
mention his human rights abuses, celebrate Stalin as a great leader. Mr. 
Putin has backed a planned monument to the victims of Soviet political 
repressions in Moscow, but that’s likely pure politics. He wants to play 
to the masses who are growing enamored of Stalin without alienating 
those Russians, such as the Moscow intelligentsia, who abhor him. The 
president has also carefully praised Stalin: “We can criticize the 
commanders and Stalin all we like, but can anyone say with certainty 
that a different approach would have enabled us to win?” he once said 
about World War II.


But Stalin receives more than just cagey rhetorical support. On Feb. 22, 
the Russian Military History Society — which Mr. Putin founded in 2012, 
is headed by the minister of culture and receives millions of dollars in 
state funding each year — paid for a bust of Stalin to be installed at a 
war museum in the city of Pskov, near the Estonian border. The minister 
of culture recently supported an exhibition of Socialist Realist 
paintings by Aleksandr Gerasimov, one of Stalin’s court painters, 
featuring portraits of the “generalissimo.”


Why is Stalin now gaining popularity? For one, people remember less and 
less about his purges and prison camps — which in Russia began to be 
thoroughly investigated and openly discussed only in the 1980s. As the 
sharp edges of Stalin’s image have gone out of focus, he has become what 
Ilya Budraitskis, a leftist thinker and activist, described to me as an 
“empty shell that can be filled with different meanings.”


I saw this firsthand in Penza. The Communists at the Stalin Center 
longed for his command economy, arguing that 

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The Ukrainian left and Russian imperialism 1918-1923. Information for the uninformed

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Oleg VERNYK. UKRAINIAN LEFT: From Zoo-Defense to Zoo-Attack! 

https://zahist.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/zoo-attack/ 


13 марта 2016, 02:34:06, от "Louis Proyect via Marxism" < 
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Introduction to Stephen Velychenko's "Painting Imperialism and 
Nationalism Red: The Ukrainian Marxist Critique of Russian Communist 
Rule in Ukraine, 1918-1925"

 
http://www.ucipr.kiev.ua/publications/the-ukrainian-left-and-russian-imperialism-1918-1923-information-for-the-uninformed/lang/en
 
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Re: [Marxism] victims of Trumpette violence?

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"I think provoking Trumpette violence can be tactically stupid. But I also 
think the UIC violence came mainly from Trump's people." 

Geez, it sounds, Clay, like you (and unfortunately too many others) seem to 
think that Black and Brown youth response to the ongoing racist, xenophobic 
violence and threats of violence by Trump and the racists he has emboldened 
were somehow ill-advised in exerting their RIGHT to stand up against it. This 
response by activists in BLM and, even, from the muddle-headed leftists 
supporting Sanders (at least they got THIS response right) is exactly how to 
turn the miasma of the bourgeois elections into veritable political action that 
can become comprehensible to larger numbers of the masses, especially Black, 
Brown, Muslim, and immigrant communtiies. Can't you even imagine how incensed, 
frustrated, and even cowed many of US have felt hearing day in, day out, the 
racist hysteria being perpetrated under the guise of "electioneering"? Trump 
may not be a fascist (I agree with that assessment), but there are many racists 
and frustrated White workers who may think he is and are emboldened to ex
 press their hatred in vile and violent ways. It is to the credit of BLM and 
Sanders activists and, even Sanders (who has called Trump on his threats to 
send his supporters to Sanders rallies) that they are willing to take this 
fight into the streets. It is about Time! 

The opportunity is right here to call out people like Sanders and Clinton to 
stand up for democratic rights, to create a groundswell of action, rather than 
simple electioneering on the real issues that are behind people like Trump (and 
Cruz, for that matter). I believe there should be united coalition-like action 
to defend Sanders' rallies against the potential for racist violence that Trump 
is trying generate. Such actions can spill onto the streets the issues that 
bourgeois electoralism is designed to obfuscate. There is potential to mobilize 
on the very issues Sanders pretends to "save us" with and that the Democratic 
Party wants to funnel into voting. 

My personal view is that Sanders will likely back down and that Trump may also, 
but it is also possible that a real important battle will be joined here. We 
should be standing with young people in this fight and, if the opportunity 
presents itself, to propose veritable mass action tactics that can bring the 
battles that bourgeois candidates only want to talk about into the streets. 
 
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Re: [Marxism] On Trade, Donald Trump Breaks With 200 Years of Economic Orthodoxy

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I've read most of what (everything I could find on free trade) by M I
think in general it's anemic. I *wish* they had written a whole lot more. I
think it lacks the needed historical study of how Britain became Britain
and the role that mercantilism played along with the massive tariff system
and outright banning of goods from other nations and colonies (especially
the latter).

Above all...a "wish" would of been for them to do a serious study of the
political economy of the US. I don't think they really did. They certainly
had a good understanding of the US political economy from the 1840s on, at
least within the larger understanding of the US industrial development,
slavery, etc. But before that? Not so much.

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[Marxism] Remote Utah Enclave Becomes New Battleground Over Reach of U.S. Control

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(These Mormon politicians won't be satisfied until all of Utah is turned 
into a big fracking toilet bowl.)


NY Times, Mar. 13 2016
Remote Utah Enclave Becomes New Battleground Over Reach of U.S. Control
By JACK HEALY

SAN JUAN COUNTY, Utah — The juniper mesas and sunset-red canyons in this 
corner of southern Utah are so remote that even the governor says he has 
probably only seen them from the window of a plane. They are a paradise 
for hikers and campers, a revered retreat where generations of American 
Indian tribes have hunted, gathered ceremonial herbs and carved their 
stories onto the sandstone walls.


Today, the land known as Bears Ears — named for twin buttes that jut out 
over the horizon — has become something else altogether: a battleground 
in the fight over how much power Washington exerts over federally 
controlled Western landscapes.


At a moment when much of President Obama’s environmental agenda has been 
blocked by Congress and stalled in the courts, the president still has 
the power under the Antiquities Act of 1906 to create national monuments 
on federal lands with the stroke of a pen. A coalition of tribes, with 
support from conservation groups, is pushing for a new monument here in 
the red-rock deserts, arguing it would protect 1.9 million acres of 
culturally significant land from new mining and drilling and become a 
final major act of conservation for the administration.


But this is Utah, where lawmakers are so angry with federal land 
policies that in 2012 they passed a law demanding that Washington hand 
over 31 million acres managed by the Bureau of Land Management and the 
Forest Service to the state. The federal government — the landlord of 65 
percent of Utah’s land — has not complied, so Utah is now considering a 
quixotic $14 million lawsuit to force a transfer.


Conservative lawmakers across the state have lined up to oppose any new 
monument. Ranchers, county commissioners, business groups and even some 
local tribal members object to it as a land grab that would add 
crippling restrictions on animal grazing, oil and gas drilling and 
road-building in a rural county that never saw its share of Utah’s 
economic growth. Unemployment here is 8.4 percent, more than double the 
state average.


“We’ve chosen to live here knowing we’re never going to get rich,” said 
Bruce Adams, a San Juan county commissioner and fifth-generation rancher 
whose cattle largely graze on federal allotments. “We chose to live here 
because we love the land, we love the country.”


To create a new monument out of Bears Ears “would be almost 
un-American,” Mr. Adams said. Val Dalton, a rancher who grazes cattle 
almost exclusively on federal land, said new federal protections “would 
put us out of business.”


But for the coalition of tribes and nature advocates seeking 
preservation, a new national monument here would preserve a stretch of 
mountains, mesas and canyons six times the size of Los Angeles. It could 
also create a new model for how public lands are managed: The tribal 
coalition of Navajos, Zunis, Hopis, Utes and Ute Mountain Utes wants to 
jointly manage the land with the government.


“You can’t talk about who we are as a people without talking about the 
land,” said Eric Descheenie, a chairman of the intertribal coalition 
leading the effort. “The same kind of love that we have for relatives is 
no different than the love we have for the land. Our traditional people 
know and understand these lands as living, breathing beings.”


A monument at Bear Ears was always going to be a fight, but the armed 
occupation of a federal wildlife sanctuary in rural Oregon this year has 
added a raw edge to the debate. Ranchers and conservative land activists 
here opposed the takeover of the Malheur sanctuary, but sympathized with 
the grievances over grazing lands and federal rules that lay at the 
heart of the siege.


When Gov. Gary Herbert, a Republican, visited the White House this 
winter, he hand-delivered a note urging Mr. Obama not to proclaim a new 
monument in Bears Ears. He cited the “heated and antagonistic” dispute 
over public lands, and said any presidential proclamation could poison 
the debate for decades.


Indeed, Utahns are still mistrustful over the fact that nearly 20 years 
ago, President Bill Clinton created the Grand Staircase-Escalante 
National Monument here, Mr. Herbert said in a telephone interview.


“This is just going to add kerosene onto the fire,” he said. “It’s not a 
smart thing to do.”


Last month, at the urging of Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of 
California, Mr. Obama designated three national monuments in Southern 

[Marxism] Trump getting back for being roasted by Obama?

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In today's NY Times there's a fascinating article on Trump that explains 
his presidential ambitions as a response in part to getting roasted by 
Obama at the White House Correspondent's Dinner in 2011 that left him 
feeling shat upon. It is the stuff of an Honore Balzac or Sinclair Lewis 
novel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4

NY Times, Mar. 13 2016
Donald Trump’s Presidential Run Began in an Effort to Gain Stature
By MAGGIE HABERMAN and ALEXANDER BURNS

Donald J. Trump arrived at the White House Correspondents’ Association 
Dinner in April 2011, reveling in the moment as he mingled with the 
political luminaries who gathered at the Washington Hilton. He made his 
way to his seat beside his host, Lally Weymouth, the journalist and 
socialite daughter of Katharine Graham, longtime publisher of The 
Washington Post.


A short while later, the humiliation started.

The annual dinner features a lighthearted speech from the president; 
that year, President Obama chose Mr. Trump, then flirting with his own 
presidential bid, as a punch line.


He lampooned Mr. Trump’s gaudy taste in décor. He ridiculed his fixation 
on false rumors that the president had been born in Kenya. He belittled 
his reality show, “The Celebrity Apprentice.”


Mr. Trump at first offered a drawn smile, then a game wave of the hand. 
But as the president’s mocking of him continued and people at other 
tables craned their necks to gauge his reaction, Mr. Trump hunched 
forward with a frozen grimace.


After the dinner ended, Mr. Trump quickly left, appearing bruised. He 
was “incredibly gracious and engaged on the way in,” recalled Marcus 
Brauchli, then the executive editor of The Washington Post, but departed 
“with maximum efficiency.”


That evening of public abasement, rather than sending Mr. Trump away, 
accelerated his ferocious efforts to gain stature within the political 
world. And it captured the degree to which Mr. Trump’s campaign is 
driven by a deep yearning sometimes obscured by his bluster and 
bragging: a desire to be taken seriously.


That desire has played out over the last several years within a 
Republican Party that placated and indulged him, and accepted his money 
and support, seemingly not grasping how fervently determined he was to 
become a major force in American politics. In the process, the party 
bestowed upon Mr. Trump the kind of legitimacy that he craved, which has 
helped him pursue a credible bid for the presidency.


“Everybody has a little regret there, and everybody read it wrong,” said 
David Keene, a former chairman of the American Conservative Union, an 
activist group Mr. Trump cultivated. Of Mr. Trump’s rise, Mr. Keene 
said, “It’s almost comical, except it’s liable to end up with him as the 
nominee.”


Repeatedly underestimated as a court jester or silly showman, Mr. Trump 
muscled his way into the Republican elite by force of will. He badgered 
a skittish Mitt Romney into accepting his endorsement on national 
television, and became a celebrity fixture at conservative gatherings. 
He abandoned his tightfisted inclinations and cut five- and six-figure 
checks in a bid for clout as a political donor. He courted conservative 
media leaders as deftly as he had the New York tabloids.


At every stage, members of the Republican establishment wagered that 
they could go along with Mr. Trump just enough to keep him quiet or make 
him go away. But what party leaders viewed as generous ceremonial 
gestures or ego stroking of Mr. Trump — speaking spots at gatherings, 
meetings with prospective candidates and appearances alongside 
Republican heavyweights — he used to elevate his position and, 
eventually, to establish himself as a formidable figure for 2016.


In an interview on Friday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he had 
encountered many who doubted or dismissed him as a political force 
before now. “I realized that unless I actually ran, I wouldn’t be taken 
seriously,” he said. But he denied having been troubled by Mr. Obama’s 
derision.


“I loved that dinner,” Mr. Trump said, adding, “I can handle criticism.”

Phantom Campaign

Even before the correspondents’ dinner, Mr. Trump had moved to grab a 
bigger role in political affairs. In February, he addressed the annual 
Conservative Political Action Conference. Organizers gave Mr. Trump an 
afternoon speaking slot, and Mr. Keene perceived him as an entertaining 
attraction, secondary to headliners like Mitch Daniels, then the 
governor of Indiana.


But Mr. Trump understood his role differently. Reading carefully from a 
prepared text, he tested the themes that would one day frame his 
presidential campaign: American 

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I think provoking Trumpette violence can be tactically stupid. But I also
think the UIC violence came mainly from Trump's people. No matter, he used
it to his advantage. It will probably help in in Illinois on Tues. I'm sure
he see's it that way.

Trump is from the Assad/Putin school of politics - namely fascism - which
means they are all master con men and dirty tricksters, Trump will use
"Left" violence at his rallies the same way Putin & Assad use "terrorism"

I suspect the secret service scramble the next day was entirely staged -
what do we know about the guy that jumped the bike rack? Have some SS
agents made a "deal" with Trump? Are they the "law enforcement" that
advised Trump to cancel the rally or was it that Arizona sheriff?

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> This is not a leading question, it's an honest attempt at clarity:
> Of the people of color or other anti-Trumpers who were pushed around,
> beaten, threatened etc. at Trump events: what percent were inside the
> events?
> I am NOT saying they deserved it, whether inside or out.
> I AM saying that if a Trumper came to a progressive event and started
> yelling, we would usher them out, perhaps even with force.
> And I AM saying that in the battle against right-wingers, defensive
> formulations matter.
> Physically stopping (with help from the pavement) attacks on our picket
> lines, meetings, mosques, etc., is essential. As is proactively building
> the movements which Trumpers would love to crush.
> But provoking Trumpette violence is just tactical stupidity.
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[Marxism] Fwd: Q & A with Joe Manchik, Green Party candidate for Ohio’s 12th Congressional District

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[Marxism] Vote Pact

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If you are working with a third arty candidate this year, Vote Pact is
going to prove to be key to building inroads, in my opinion. I talked with
Sam Husseini about his idea.

http://www.rifuture.org/sam-husseini-explains-why-you-should-create-a-vote-pact.html

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Trump Blames 'Thugs' and 'Communist' Bernie Sanders Supporters for Chicago Violence | VICE News

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Vice News has earned a reputation for tough insightful reporting in the
past. Its a shame to see them so well played by Donald Trump here. In the
vary first para they sell Trump's explanation for canceling the rally as
their own:

the protests that forced him to cancel his rally in Chicago on Friday night.


The Chicago PD, the campus PD and at least one other local PD said they did
not advise that the rally be cancelled, but instead said they were not
consulted and further felt that they had sufficient control to allow the
rally to go forward. Even the Vice news piece later says:

> Chicago police later disputed Trump's claims, telling reporters that they
> never talked with the candidate and did not advise him to cancel the event.

Then they immediately return to embracing Trump's stated reason for
cancelling the event.

> Friday was the first time, however, that the billionaire has had to cancel
> an event due to security concerns.

This is naivety of the Nth degree and these people need to grow up fast.

This was entirely set up by the Trump campaign. I think a review of the
basic facts clearly show this.

How many Trump rallies have been held in the heart of a major city, on a
university campus? http://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule Today he rallies at
the Synergy Flight Center in Bloomington, IL., then he does his "Cincinnati
Town Hall" in West Chester, OH 25 miles from downtown Cincinnati. Then its
off to the Sunset Cove Amphitheater in Boca Raton, Fl. Tomorrow he'll be at
Lenoir-Rhyne University in Hickory, NC, an 86% white Christian school.
These are much more his style. The choice of UIC, in the DT Chicago and
home of Black Youth Project 100, stands out like a sore thumb. But the
choice of that venue plus the fact that while it is another characteristic
of Trump rallies that they make every effort to insure that only Trump
supporters get in, such policing was dropped for this event, did assure
that later on Trump could charge:

> "The organized group of people, many of them thugs, who have shut down our
> First Amendment Rights in Chicago, have totally energized America!" Trump
> said on Twitter after the cancelled event.
>
He knew there would be a lot of black youth there, that's what he means by
"thugs", this is also a home of BLM.

Also he setup the violent confrontation by cancelling the event only after
he had filled an arena with people strongly opposed to each other. Vice
seems to have missed that important point also. The Trump campaign had to
know what was brewing. 4000 people signed a Move-On petition to stop it,
but UIC couldn't because they don't own the center. 9,000 people marker
themselves as going to a facebook page setup for the protest. More than 60
groups were part of Stop Trump Chicago, another anti-Trump petition had
nearly 50K signatures.

So there could have been every reason for canceling the rally for
"security" concerns before the rally got started, but to wait until 9K
warring factions filled the hall (and some reports say it was 60/40 against
Trump] and then abandon them to their fate, that's not commendable. That's
what caused the violence to break out.

I'm surprise there is so much confusion and buy-in to this. This was setup
by Trump and it has worked out pretty much they way he planned it. Yes,
people are right to protest Trump but in this case the protesters were
played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuTe_sAI-UQ
http://wgntv.com/2016/03/11/protesters-march-near-uic-ahead-of-trump-rally/#
https://www.facebook.com/events/1060752830629598/
http://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/March-2016/Trump-rally-protest/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/donald-trump-vows-to-ruin-protesters-lives-by-pressing-charges-their-lives-are-gonna-be-ruined/

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[Marxism] Fwd: ZCommunications » Registering Democratic for the Revolution

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Ted Glick defends the "inside/outside" strategy and refers to his 
membership in the Green Party. Meanwhile, he was one of the key people 
along with Medea Benjamin who pushed for the obscure candidacy of David 
Cobb in 2004 rather than Ralph Nader because there would be less danger 
of siphoning votes away from John Kerry--the so called "Demogreen" 
intervention.


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[Marxism] Chinese "Communists" emulate Maggie Thatcher

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FT, March 13, 2016 5:00 am
China coal protests highlight overcapacity tensions
Lucy Hornby in Beijing

Thousands of Chinese coal miners have taken to the streets in a city 
near the Siberian border to protest against unpaid wages, in the first 
direct challenge to Beijing’s plan for orderly downsizing and job cuts 
in the state-owned coal sector.
Beijing has said it would lay aside Rmb100bn ($15.4bn) to “resettle” 
coal and steel workers as part of a plan to cut unproductive capacity in 
both sectors, but local governments and the companies themselves are 
supposed to bear a portion of the costs.


Slowing Chinese growth and the end of the commodities supercycle have 
turned overcapacity into a pressing economic issue for Beijing. Data 
published this weekend showed that in the first two months of this year, 
Chinese production of thermal coal and steel both fell 6 per cent while 
output of metallurgical, or coking, coal — the steel ingredient produced 
by the protesting miners — dropped 10 per cent.


Miners at state-owned Shuangyashan Mine, one of four mines that make up 
ailing Longmay Coal, began a third day of protests holding banners that 
read “We want to eat, we want our wages” and “Lu Hao lies with his eyes 
open” referring Mr Lu, the provincial governor of Heilongjiang province.
Last week Mr Lu said that Longmay had met all its salary obligations and 
criticised the company, which is rapidly becoming the poster child for 
lossmaking state-owned coal groups, for its lack of productivity.
One protesting miner in Shuangyashan told the Financial Times: “He said 
during the National People’s Congress that Heilongjiang had not delayed 
payments to its 80,000 coal miners. Well, at the time he said that, we 
had not gotten our salaries for four months. That’s the key.” He did not 
give his name as Chinese authorities regularly imprison workers who lead 
protests or speak to foreign media.


Mr Lu then said he had been “misinformed” about Longmay’s wage arrears 
problem. He is the youngest member of the Communist party’s Central 
Committee and was considered a rising star among China’s younger leaders 
during the previous administration of Hu Jintao.


Chinese authorities had been loathe to allow lossmaking state-owned 
groups to go bankrupt, in part because of the possibility of mass unrest 
of the type that paralysed the rust-belt north-east during the previous 
round of restructuring, in the late 1990s.


Xiao Yaqing, the head of the State Assets Supervision and Administration 
Commission, told reporters on Saturday: “Those of us who lived through 
the 1990s know that it was very different”, in part because China’s 
economy was much smaller than it is today.
He added: “More mergers mean less bankruptcies and can help us 
peacefully resolve any disputes. I don’t think we will see any return to 
the 1990s.”


Beijing’s plan involves trimming excess capacity across the board while 
allowing the companies themselves to survive or merge into even larger 
entities. However, the result can be large but weak state-owned 
companies such as Longmay, which was formed by merging four state-owned 
coal mines about a decade ago.


The Chinese coal sector is split between privately- or locally-owned 
smaller miners and enormous state-owned mines, many first developed 
before the Communist victory in the Chinese civil war. Many of the 
state-owned mines are lossmaking in part because they are contractually 
obliged to provide coal at below-market prices to the state-owned power 
and steel sectors while maintaining bloated work forces and social 
services as a legacy of their importance to the planned economy.

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[Marxism] Fwd: How Barack Obama turned his back on Saudi Arabia and its Sunni allies | Middle East | News | The Independent

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Patrick Cockburn's article is somewhat mistitled. It should be titled 
"Obama Never Sought Regime Change in Syria" or something like that. The 
article is based on interviews that Obama gave to Jeffrey Goldberg, the 
odious voice of Zionist liberalism, from Atlantic magazine. I suppose I 
will have to put on my hip boots and wade through the interviews. 
Probably will have to get a tetanus shot after I'm done.


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Re: [Marxism] Stalin and religion

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On 3/13/16 4:09 AM, Ken Hiebert via Marxism wrote:

This evening I was enjoying Joanna Lumley's Trans-Siberian Adventure
(Episode 3). In this episode she talks to Evgeny Lebedev,  son of
Russian oligarch Alexander Lebedev.  He tells her an interesting
story.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Joanna+Lumley+Trans-Siberian&=detail=6B24782F009929A16C4B6B24782F009929A16C4B=C9A2D169FC422EE0BB81C9A2D169FC422EE0BB81=VDFSRV=-1155




A psychopathic blasphemer is facing a year in prison after shocking 
religious believers with his suggestion that Russian President Vladimir 
Putin does not exist.


The 38-year old Viktor Krasnov was charged with offending political 
feelings, though his true day of reckoning is not in this life, but the 
next (though he will be reckoned with in this life too – just to make sure).


full: 
http://russiainyourface.com/2016/03/13/russian-atheist-faces-year-in-jail-for-denying-existence-of-putin-during-webchat/

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[Marxism] Fwd: Thoughts on the debate on imperialism | Michael Roberts Blog

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Sympathetic critique of John Smith's new book.

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2016/03/13/thoughts-on-the-debate-on-imperialism/
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Re: [Marxism] Trump set Chicago confrontation

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This is a youtube clip of the Rachel Maddow talk
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuTe_sAI-UQ
> Its very important that we get this right. Its important to protest Trump.
> Its also important that we don't play into his hands.
>

The Maddow show was convincingly scary.  Yes, protesting Trump is
important, so is not playing into his hands.  He set up the fight, does
that mean the protest movement was played? Exactly what would be the
guidelines for effective anti Trump campaigns?

Watching all this from my armchair in New Zealand, thinking this is
relevant to us all.

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[Marxism] Stalin and religion

[Ken Hiebert via Marxism]

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This evening I was enjoying Joanna Lumley's Trans-Siberian Adventure (Episode 
3). In this episode she talks to Evgeny Lebedev,  son of Russian oligarch 
Alexander Lebedev.  He tells her an interesting story.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Joanna+Lumley+Trans-Siberian&=detail=6B24782F009929A16C4B6B24782F009929A16C4B=C9A2D169FC422EE0BB81C9A2D169FC422EE0BB81=VDFSRV=-1155
See 2:25

I'm disinclined to believe that Stalin actually had an icon brought to Moscow 
to be flown over the city to protect it from the German advance.  But I do find 
it interesting that an apparently well educated Russian believes this to be so.
And it suggests to me that decades of Stalinist rule have left a great 
intellectual and political poverty in Russia.

ken h

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