Re: [Marxism] Brexit article worth reading
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 6/25/16 9:25 PM, A.R. G via Marxism wrote: They turned over Libyan weapons to [Islamic State], al-Qaida and [Nusra Front]. In fact the opposite is true. Wall Street Journal, October 17, 2012: U.S. officials say they are most worried about Russian-designed Manpads provided to Libya making their way to Syria. The U.S. intensified efforts to track and collect man-portable missiles after the 2011 fall of the country’s longtime strongman leader, Moammar Gadhafi. To keep control of the flow of weapons to the Syrian rebels, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar formed a joint operations room early this year in a covert project U.S. officials watched from afar. The U.S. has limited its support of the rebels to communications equipment, logistics and intelligence. But U.S. officials have coordinated with the trio of countries sending arms and munitions to the rebels. The Pentagon and CIA ramped up their presence on Turkey’s southern border as the weapons began to flow to the rebels in two to three shipments every week. In July, the U.S. effectively halted the delivery of at least 18 Manpads sourced from Libya, even as the rebels pleaded for more effective antiaircraft missiles to counter regime airstrikes in Aleppo, people familiar with that delivery said. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Brexit article worth reading
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * “If there is anyone who is responsible for the Brexit, it is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama,” he said. “They destroyed Libya. They turned over Libyan weapons to [Islamic State], al-Qaida and [Nusra Front]. It was their war in Syria, where many of these weapons ended up, which created the massive exodus of refugees into Europe. This exodus exacerbated nationalism and anti-immigrant sentiment." The quote from Michael Hudson is very problematic. Even assuming his narrative about the cause of the refugee crisis were accurate, he appears to be suggesting that the mere presence of immigrants/refugees os the cause of the backlash toward them. A very bizarre attribution of causality. On Saturday, June 25, 2016, Andrew Pollack via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > This is dangerous nonsense. It's bad enough that Hudson, the main basis for > all Hedge's arguments, blames the banks and only the banks for the systemic > crisis. > But what's worse is that Hudson - quoted approvingly by Hedges - blames the > UK's immigration crisis on "Obama's wars" in Ukraine, Libya and Syria -- > once again conveniently denying agency to the masses in all three > countries. > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > -- - Amith _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Brexit article worth reading
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * This is dangerous nonsense. It's bad enough that Hudson, the main basis for all Hedge's arguments, blames the banks and only the banks for the systemic crisis. But what's worse is that Hudson - quoted approvingly by Hedges - blames the UK's immigration crisis on "Obama's wars" in Ukraine, Libya and Syria -- once again conveniently denying agency to the masses in all three countries. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * A good companion piece to William's critique of the "solid south" is Thomas G. Dyer's "Secret Yankees", which examines a circle of pro-unionists in Atlanta during the civil war. On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Greg McDonaldwrote: > Both books come highly recommended. I do believe Williams is still at > Valdosta state. The latter book is cast as a history from below approach to > the Civil war. I will try to post some more examples in this vein. I just > need to pull a few down from my shelf. > > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
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[Marxism] Brexit article worth reading
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * This is how you get a socialist, be it Green or another party, elected this year http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/2008_all_over_again_20160624 -- Best regards, Andrew Stewart _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * He has another book, Bitterly Divided: The South's Inner Civil War. http://m.accessatlanta.com/news/entertainment/calendar/q-a-david-williams-historian-author-civil-war-how-/nQxmg/ On Jun 25, 2016 6:18 PM, "Louis Proyect via Marxism" < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > As it turns out, I recommended the wrong book the other day that had "Rich > Man's War" in the title even though it was germane to the topic of refusing > to fight for the ruling class. Nelson Blackstock, who knows firsthand about > the lives of workers in the South, clarified that the book he referred me > to was about opposition to the Civil War, not WWI even though the class > dynamics were identical. He was talking about a book very much in the > spirit of "The Free State of Jones". > > > > In Rich Man's War historian David Williams focuses on the Civil War > experience of people in the Chattahoochee River Valley of Georgia and > Alabama to illustrate how the exploitation of enslaved blacks and poor > whites by a planter oligarchy generated overwhelming class conflict across > the South, eventually leading to Confederate defeat. > This conflict was so clearly highlighted by the perception that the Civil > War was "a rich man's war and a poor man's fight" that growing numbers of > oppressed whites and blacks openly rebelled against Confederate authority, > undermining the fight for independence. After the war, however, the upper > classes encouraged enmity between freedpeople and poor whites to prevent a > class revolution. Trapped by racism and poverty, the poor remained in > virtual economic slavery, still dominated by an almost unchanged planter > elite. > > > full: > https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Mans-War-Confederate-Chattahoochee/dp/0820320331 > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/fred.r.murphy%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * As it turns out, I recommended the wrong book the other day that had "Rich Man's War" in the title even though it was germane to the topic of refusing to fight for the ruling class. Nelson Blackstock, who knows firsthand about the lives of workers in the South, clarified that the book he referred me to was about opposition to the Civil War, not WWI even though the class dynamics were identical. He was talking about a book very much in the spirit of "The Free State of Jones". In Rich Man's War historian David Williams focuses on the Civil War experience of people in the Chattahoochee River Valley of Georgia and Alabama to illustrate how the exploitation of enslaved blacks and poor whites by a planter oligarchy generated overwhelming class conflict across the South, eventually leading to Confederate defeat. This conflict was so clearly highlighted by the perception that the Civil War was "a rich man's war and a poor man's fight" that growing numbers of oppressed whites and blacks openly rebelled against Confederate authority, undermining the fight for independence. After the war, however, the upper classes encouraged enmity between freedpeople and poor whites to prevent a class revolution. Trapped by racism and poverty, the poor remained in virtual economic slavery, still dominated by an almost unchanged planter elite. full: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Mans-War-Confederate-Chattahoochee/dp/0820320331 _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Boris Kagarlitsky: as dizzy as ever
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[Marxism] William Pelz, " A People's History of Modern Europe"
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[Marxism] 'Beyond Bernie: Still Not With Her' by Kshama Sawant
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[Marxism] Postcapitalism
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * LRB, Vol. 38 No. 13 · 30 June 2016 Owen Hatherley PostCapitalism: A Guide to Our Future by Paul Mason Allen Lane, 368 pp, £8.99, June, ISBN 978 0 14 197529 0 Inventing the Future: Postcapitalism and a World without Work by Nick Srnicek and Alex Williams Verso, 256 pp, £12.99, October 2015, ISBN 978 1 78478 096 8 Both Paul Mason’s PostCapitalism: A Guide to Our Future and Nick Srnicek and Alex Williams’s Inventing the Future: Postcapitalism and a World without Work advocate things that seemed to have disappeared from thinking on the left sometime in the late 1960s: technological optimism, futurism, the making of programmes and the issuing of demands as opposed to bearing witness through protest. Both use the curiously neutral coinage ‘postcapitalism’ for their alternative, rather than socialism, social democracy, communism or anarchism, each of these tainted for the authors in one way or another. Srnicek and Williams reject practically everything that the Euro-American left has thought and done since 1968, bar a somewhat tokenistic acknowledgment of the importance of sexual and racial ‘intersectionality’. Their problem isn’t with ‘identity politics’ – the common bugbear of everything-went-wrong-in-the-1960s leftists – but with the abandonment of the belief that a society beyond capitalism is both possible and necessary. ‘From predictions of new worlds of leisure, to Soviet-era cosmic communism, to Afro-futurist celebrations of the synthetic and diasporic nature of black culture, to post-gender dreams of radical feminism,’ they write, ‘the popular imagination of the left envisaged societies vastly superior to anything we dream of today.’ It’s especially frustrating because ‘today, on one level, these dreams appear closer than ever,’ through the ever greater expansion of automation, the communal production and distribution of open-source software and ‘copyleft’ systems of repudiated ownership, and the possibilities opened up by 3-D printing. Srnicek and Williams came to notoriety in 2013 when they issued a ‘Manifesto for an Accelerationist Politics’, affirming ‘mastery’, technology and the liberatory possibilities of capitalism if pushed beyond its limits. It was a heady and largely unconvincing theoretical melange, fuelled by a rather Weimar Republic sense of apocalyptic excitement (‘After Hitler, us!’). Inventing the Future is more sober; the manifesto was wilfully offensive, but here the authors are keen to make converts. Mason, who arrives at postcapitalism from a background in technology and economic journalism, and a sometime involvement in Trotskyist politics, begins his ‘guide to our future’ at the border between Moldova and the Russian-backed statelet of Transnistria: a place, he tells us, where people would rather the stability of dictatorship than the chaos of neoliberalism. The river Dniester is ‘the geographic border between free-market capitalism and whatever you want to call the system Vladimir Putin runs’ (it remains unclear why that system shouldn’t also be called ‘free-market capitalism’). To cross into Putinland is to realise that ‘the best of capitalism is over for us’: around 2050 it will all start to collapse, through climate change, ageing, migration and economic dysfunction. Both Mason and Srnicek/Williams are sceptical that the Keynesian anti-austerity programmes of Corbyn, Sanders, Podemos or pre-capitulation Syriza – to ‘suppress high finance, reverse austerity, invest in green energy and promote high-waged work’, as Mason puts it – are nearly enough to stop the rot. But the lack of a viable systemic alternative is ‘logical, if you think the only alternative is what the 20th-century left called “socialism”’, which Mason defines sweepingly as ‘state control and economic nationalism’ along with a ‘brutal hierarchy’. For the much younger Srnicek and Williams, the problem is reversing the errors of post-1968 left-libertarians; for Mason, they didn’t go nearly far enough. Mason especially displays the sort of belief in historical necessity and progress that most Marxists have learned to be deeply embarrassed by. Postcapitalism is both necessary and possible because ‘capitalism can no longer adapt to technological change.’ In language that recalls Marx’s preface to A Contribution to the Critique of Political Economy, ‘it will be abolished’ because it has exhausted its productive resources, and harbours ‘something more dynamic that exists, at first, almost unseen within the old system’. The two books share an excitement about the possibility of a ‘new kind of human being’, but mean different things by
[Marxism] Fwd: Brexit voters have more in common with Arab Spring protesters than they would like to think | Voices | The Independent
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * A Patrick Cockburn article, as stupid as ever. It evoked this comment from Idrees Ahmad on FB: Did you not see those EU jets bomb your home? Didn't the EU just destroy your hospital? Weren't your children tortured by the EU mukhabarat? What about that woman that was EU-raped? Yes, the disgusting sack of shit Patrick Cockburn actually wrote this. He compares the Arab Spring protesters to rightwing Brexiters and claims they "demonised" the regimes the way the UKIP demonises the EU. Remember: this is the man that Jeremy Corbyn invited to advised his party on Syria; this is the man Noam Chomsky cites as his main authority. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-result-leave-arab-spring-protest-vote-boris-johnson-nigel-farage-a7101276.html _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: The impact of Brexit | Michael Roberts Blog
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Michael Roberts warned that a Grexit would be no panacea. He has a similar warning on Brexit: And here is the real point. Devaluation only really affects demand. The other side of the equation is supply and productive capacity. Devaluation doesn’t necessarily do anything to promote investment and higher productivity. Some even argue that devaluation can reduce the incentive to be efficient because you become competitive without the effort of increasing productivity. What really matters is what is going to happen to business investment and profitability. Higher production costs from imports, weaker demand at home and abroad are likely to discourage UK companies from investing at home and foreign investors from stepping in. And overall profitability of UK companies at the end of 2015 was still below the peak of 1997, while profitability in the key manufacturing sector for exports was half that of 1997. If the UK tips into recession, the demand for EU exports (German cars, French wine, Italian clothing etc) is going to weaken. And so a recession in the UK could push the EU back too. And this is in an environment where global economic growth has slowed to its lowest rate since the end of the Great Recession, where global corporate profits growth is at zero and business investment is dropping in many economies. full: https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2016/06/24/the-impact-of-brexit/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Momentum on 'Brexit' vote: Labour movement must show way forward for the working class
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