[Marxism] A lost document from the Cold War
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Re: [Marxism] will antifa punch these guys out?
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Nope, the work in the community to build support since they only other folx are neo-nazi's and the Klan. They are pro-union, pr-choice, and pro-gun, and antiracism. They believe in protecting themselves to the extent that the law allows and protecting those who ask their assistance, such as jewish groups asking for security during the high holy days. Build whatever straw man the fits your theory, but don't ignore that is being done in urban/rural communities where multiracial groups are rejecting protest repertoires that have been proven failures. Do some research and see what they do WITHOUT their firearms to support poor communities of all colors before you jump the gun. J.A. Masko College of Communications Penn State University State College, Pa 16801 "The challenge of modernity is to live without illusions and without becoming disillusioned." Antonio Gramsci. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] will antifa punch these guys out?
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[Marxism] Fwd: Undercover With the Alt-Right - The New York Times
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[Marxism] Fwd: This is what American fascism looks like: the Lyndon LaRouche story (part four) | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * In 2017, large segments of the left—especially anarchists—would have you believe that the USA has something in common with the Weimar Republic in 1930 and that it is necessary to punch neo-Nazis in order to prevent Richard Spencer from becoming a new Hitler. In reality the largest fascist movement in the USA since the 1930s would never have organized its members to march in torch-lit parades chanting “blood and soil” even though it was clearly trying to emulate the Nazis. With allies such as the Grand Wizard of the KKK in Michigan, who had been convicted of bombing school buses to protest busing, you’d think that Lydon LaRouche would have created a new party to serve as a pole of attraction. Showing much more savvy than Richard Spencer and his ilk, he submerged his US Labor Party into the Democrat Party just as the CPUSA has done since the New Deal. Between 1982 and 1988, his movement ran in 4,000 Democratic Party primaries and general elections in over 30 states. At the peak of his powers when he was a presidential candidate, LaRouche used to buy an hour’s worth of time on network TV to present his rather convoluted mixture of leftish sounding attacks on the IMF and bizarre conspiracies about how Queen Elizabeth was a drug lord. Dennis King describes the scope of his electoral machine: Its fund raisers brought in tens of millions of dollars while its candidates attracted over 4 million votes, including voting percentages above 10 percent in hundreds of contests. In at least 70 statewide, congressional, or state legislative races, LaRouche candidates polled over 20 percent of the vote. At least 25 appeared on the general election ballot as Democratic nominees, either by defeating a regular Democratic opponent or by running in the primary unopposed. Although none was actually elected to any public office higher than a local school board, hundreds won Democratic Party posts (mostly county committee seats) across the country. full: https://louisproyect.org/2017/09/19/this-is-what-american-fascism-looks-like-the-lyndon-larouche-story-part-four/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: Full text: Trump's 2017 U.N. speech transcript - POLITICO
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[Marxism] Agents provocateurs and the manipulation of the radical left | Emile Schepers | People's World
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[Marxism] Pakistan, polio and the CIA
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * After the invasion of Afghanistan by American-led forces in 2001, many Taliban fighters relocated to the FATA, from where they launched cross-border attacks. The Pakistani army tried to bring the region under government control but the incursion aggrieved local communities, who joined forces with the militants. The CIA used drone strikes to support Pakistani military action from 2004 onwards. According to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NAfjFonM-Tn7fziqiv33HlGt09wgLZDSCP-BQaux51w/edit#gid=1000652376>, there have been 428 drone strikes, leading to between 2511 and 4020 fatalities. Vaccination campaigns were suspected of being a smokescreen for collecting intelligence ahead of drone strikes. Organisations involved in the Pakistan Polio Eradication Initiative <http://www.endpolio.com.pk/polioin-pakistan/partners-and-donors> include the Pakistani state and US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Polio vaccinators visit the FATA every few months, walking from door-to-door, offering to vaccinate children, and recording who has been vaccinated. The data is collected for public health purposes, but you can see how it might be misconstrued as intelligence gathering. There have also been complaints <https://tribune.com.pk/story/394962/cover-for-us-spies-n-waziristan-warlord-bans-polio-vaccination/> that ‘billions of dollars’ are spent on vaccination campaigns when ‘polio infects one child in a million’, while malnutrition and diarrhoea receive far less attention from the international community despite causing much more suffering. Polio workers have been attacked and vaccination campaigns interrupted, reducing the number of children being immunised and leading to an increase in polio cases. Before the assassination of Osama bin Laden in May 2011, the CIA organised a fake hepatitis B vaccination campaign <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna> in Abbottabad in a failed attempt to obtain his relatives’ DNA. When the story broke a few months later, it seemed to vindicate people’s suspicions of the polio programmes in the FATA. ‘As long as drone strikes are not stopped in Waziristan,’ one militant leader declared <http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-militants-polio/pakistan-militants-ban-polio-jabs-threaten-action-idUSBRE85F0E220120616>, ‘there will be a ban on administering polio jabs’ because immunisation campaigns are ‘used to spy for America against the Mujahideen’. More than 3.5 million <http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13)60002-1/fulltext?rss=yes> children went unvaccinated as a result of the boycott and associated disruption, in which several health workers were killed. Polio increased in Pakistan and further afield, as the virus spread to Afghanistan and the Middle East <https://academic.oup.com/heapol/article-lookup/doi/10.1093/heapol/czw148>. https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2017/09/08/jonathan-kennedy/pakistan-polio-and-the-cia/?utm_source=LRB+blog+email_medium=email_campaign=20170919+blog_content=usca_nonsubs _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] will antifa punch these guys out?
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * My point is that they are organizing and now showing up to act as security for organizations that have asked them such as BLM. but you're right of course as military men they know to never take on a fight that is not winnable. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] will antifa punch these guys out?
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 9/19/17 12:11 PM, Jeffrey Masko via Marxism wrote: In case folx don't know, there are significant numbers of vets supporting so-called antifa, including American pit vipers, th 3%, and most explicitly, redneck revolt. So what will redneck revolt do about mountaintop removal in West Virginia and Kentucky? Shoot the men operating heavy equipment? What about the opioid crisis? Shoot the drug dealers like Mexican militias did a decade ago? That hardly made a dent, plus whenever there's a demand, a supply will emerge. That's how capitalism works, after all. Here's something I wrote on FB that relates to this: Jesus fucking christ. I am getting as many posts of that guy wearing a swastika getting punched out as I got the day after Richard Spencer got punched. I don't mind people sharing this utterly irrelevant video as long as they understand a couple of things: 1. The number one problem in the USA today is the blind forces of capitalism that condemns people to unemployment, homelessness, hunger, sickness, police brutality, ecological ruin, war, alienation and loneliness. Some deranged individual walking around with a swastika is not the same thing as the Golden Dawn or the National Front. When a fascist movement develops a mass base in the USA, it will not be led by someone walking around in a swastika. It will more likely be the stars and stripes borne aloft when hundreds of racists pour into a Muslim neighborhood in Queens to break windows and beat people up. 2. If and when a genuine fascist movement develops in the USA, it will require a mass movement to oppose it. It will also require an intelligent strategy designed to get results. If punching Nazis was the key to preserving democracy and making advances against corporate power, Hitler never would have come to power. We need a united left that is democratic and that can relate to people on their level of consciousness. To place yourself in the position of acting over their heads is wrong. There is Leninist arrogance and there is anarchist arrogance. Nobody gave groups like the SWP that I used to belong to the right to make decisions with little regard for what the mass movement thinks and the same thing applies to people dressed in black and wearing hobnail boots. Enough of the bullshit already. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] will antifa punch these guys out?
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Re: [Marxism] will antifa punch these guys out?
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * In case folx don't know, there are significant numbers of vets supporting so-called antifa, including American pit vipers, th 3%, and most explicitly, redneck revolt. Whether you agree with them or not they are on the scene now. And more vets are joining everyday according to people that I talk to you in these organizations. Many of these vets split off from The Oath Keepers just because they disagreed with their mainstream or right-leaning politics. They are not about to get involved the small types crafts that are being televised though. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: Long Read: Elites, War Profiteers Take Aim at Syria’s Economic — Syria Deeply
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Re: [Marxism] The Trump-Putin coalition for Assad lays waste to Syria: Imperial agreement and carve-up behind the noisy rhetoric
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Chris’s first part of the response, we don’t have big disagreements here, judging from his response. Disagreement is stronger on the second part, the Turkey/SDF part. But some comments on the first part anyway. In relation to my comment that Turkey acted in its own interests, and not that of the US, in backing the Syrian rebels, just as it did when it backed the Mavi Marmara to break the siege of Gaza, Chris responds: “That is not a good analogy. A government permitting its citizens to join a humanitarian aid convoy is not the same as a government arming rebels to overthrow another government.” But my point was the reasons for Turkish actions: that Turkey did not back the rebels because it is a “US-backed” state, a rather obvious statement given how much more forcefully Turkey did back them, in contrast to the US role of trying to block, limit, coopt and divert the rebels as much as possible, leading to significant US-Turkish differences throughout the war. But then Chris seems to agree that various states either backed Assad or the rebels due to their own reasons, and not due to being “US puppets” or otherwise, so we agree basically. On the specifics though: the AKP did not just “permit” its citizens to “join” the convoy; it was part-organised by the Islamist IHH, connected to Erdogan’s son. Most observers understand the strong political connection between the AKP’s Syria and Palestine policies, connected as they were via the AKP’s ideological links to the Muslim Brotherhood, present both among the Syrian opposition and in the form of Hamas in Gaza. The AKP also provides significant support to Hamas, which is a political movement aimed at liberating Palestine, not an aid convoy. It does not do this because it is “US-backed.” Next, Chris takes up my point that “to the extent that the US had any relation to the arming of the Syrian rebels by these three states, its main role was always to try to limit the quantity and quality of the arms sent, restrict who they could be sent to, act to coopt those who got a few arms to divert them away from the struggle against Assad, and above all to ensure that no anti-aircraft weaponry got to the rebels ever, in an overwhelmingly air war launched by the regime". He says that if this was the US “main role” then “the simplest way would have been to ban its allies from giving any arms at all to the rebels. To enforce this edict, it could have threatened these allies with sanctions (e.g. a ban on new weapons supplies from the US).” Of course, the US cannot “ban” states that are not its puppets from doing their thing. For example, the US was not able to “ban” Saudi Arabia from supplying so many countless billions of dollars to the PLO/Fatah over the decades, even though the whole time the US listed them as an arch-villainous “terrorist” organization. I’m not sure why Chris thinks the simplest thing for the US to do would have been to threaten sanctions, when I did not say the US aimed to “ban” them providing arms, but rather to “limit,” “restrict”, “coopt”, “divert” and “ban” certain weapons - which the US did very successfully. As you may have noticed, in a 6-year air war, almost zero anti-aircraft weapons got to the rebels - thanks to the US. Chris says “The US did not do this, because it wanted SOME arms to flow to the rebels.” But that is what I said. But the US did not want the quantity or quality of arms flowing to the rebels that Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey would have liked. Of course, even these countries did not want an unlimited flow; even they only wanted, in my opinion, “to put pressure on the Assad regime, leading to a negotiated transition, similar to what happened in Yemen,” as Chris says the US aim was. Yes, we agree that the US only ever wanted a “Yemeni solution” - ie, a superficial change at the top, preserving the regime, not “regime change.” However, I think we also need to account for the difference between the far more conservative US, on this, and these three states. These states knew that, if any actual “pressure” was going to be imposed on Assad, to bring about the “political solution” they all support, then the rebels would need somewhat better arms than the crap they got. If the arms are *too* limited in quantity and quality, no real pressure at all can be put on Assad, even for the most limited objectives. In other words, there was a contradiction between the alleged US aim - putting pressure on Assad to negotiate - and the very tight degree to which the US limited, restricted and banned. That is because, in my opinion, the US had very little commitment to even this conservative solution. The US aim was for the
[Marxism] Fwd: Greek Debt Crisis: Why Syriza Continues to Lose
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[Marxism] will antifa punch these guys out?
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[Marxism] Fwd: Getting the Gulf of Tonkin Wrong: Are Ken Burns and Lynn Novick “Telling Stories” About the Central Events Used to Legitimize the US Attack Against Vietnam?
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[Marxism] Fwd: What We Sow is What We Eat
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Seeing and tasting these gifts of nature can’t help but make you think of the foods most of us eat. Heavily processed and full of salt, hydrogenated oil, and high fructose corn syrup; loaded with chemicals; laden with pesticides; grown on factory farms; treated like any other mass-produced products, aimed for the market with costs per unit low and profits high. Our crops are planted and harvested in this country by a largely black and brown workforce, poorly paid and forced to live in shacks and tents. They are poisoned, along with their children, every day they labor, and their life expectancy, in the United States, is barely fifty years. What it was when Edward R. Murrow’s documentary, Harvest of Shame, was shown on television in 1960. Much the same can be said about farm laborers anywhere in the world. full: https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09/19/what-we-sow-is-what-we-eat/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: The great nutrient collapse | MR Online
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[Marxism] Fwd: St. Louis Cops Taunt Demonstrators with Chilling Chant After Clearing Streets | Alternet
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Re: [Marxism] The Making and the Breaking of the Legend of Robert E. Lee
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * From: Gary MacLennan --- Alan You are alive!!! (And as pedantic as ever) How are things with you politically? Comradely Gary--- Let's just say: When we ran Lyle Shelton out of Toowoomba, we thought we were doing a good thing. We didn't expect him to become the same kind of dickhead on a national scale. ... That and a Real Job(tm), too much beer and working on a Saturday. So basically, politically inactive. :( Alan _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The Making and the Breaking of the Legend of Robert E. Lee
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 at 7:22 am, Alan Bradley via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > Nick Fredman wrote: > > Very much related to campaigns against monuments to Cook and others is > what> is probably the highest profile current battle against reactionary > > tradition, the battle to de-recognise as "Australia Day" the date of > Cook's > > landing, January 26. > > January 26 marks the arrival of the First Fleet, not Cook, of course. > When fighting over history we need to be careful to get the history right. > Oops yes we should take care. Lucky I didn't go to the demo outdide the council meeting to support the motion or I might have put my foot in it where it mattered. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
