Re: [Marxism] Raed Fares, leader of Kafranbel killed by HTS gunmen in Idlib
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 11/28/18 8:56 PM, Chris Slee wrote: Louis Proyect says: "Actually, there have been very few murders of civil society activists by Islamists in Syria". I am not sure how many, but there have been some. On 9 December 2013, four activists in Douma - Razan Zeitouneh, Wael Hamada, Samira Khalil and Nazem Hamadi - were abducted by armed men and disappeared. In the absence of any information about them since then, we can assume they were murdered. According to Robin Yassin-Kassab and Leila al-Shami, "Most people blame Zahran Alloush's Jaysh al-Islam, Douma's strongest militia, for the abduction". (Burning Country, Pluto Press, 2016, page x) Don't you realize how idiotic you seem bringing up the name of only four people in a total of 7 years? I guess not. In the case of Raed Fares and Hamoud Juneid, I would be inclined to suspect Turkish military intelligence, which has been accused of killing opponents of the Sochi deal. But I admit I have no evidence to confirm this suspicion. Maybe it was the Cali cartel. Louis says: "...Syria would have been better off if Islamists had taken power in 2013 or so and rapidly closed economic and political ranks with Turkey". Replacing one oppressive regime by another was not the aim of the revolution. The "Kurdish leadership" rightly rejected this false choice. Yeah, it took choice C, which involved a non-aggression pact with the Baathist Third Reich. The PYD must have read Molotov's autobiography. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The case against “The case against open borders” | SocialistWorker.org
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I'm actually arguing from the tendency for wages to equalize at equal skill levels --- If there are open borders, then the international working class will move to higher wage (and higher SOCIAL wage) countries --- putting downward pressure on both --- Without a socialist (=workers') government to force capitalists to pay good wages to all, a social democratic government will be constantly facing a fight to keep capitalists from undercutting current wages by hiring the newest immigrants --- Will the population receiving the benefits of the social democratic "welfare state" permit immediate entry into the group of recipients? It is not LOGICALLY impossible -- it just would probably take as MUCH political mobilization as an outright seizure of power from the capitalists --- Think of how slavery ended -- not with solidarity between non-slaveholding Souhern whites and slaves but with a military conquest by the North followed by (in some states over a decade of) occupation by the union army to prevent ex Confederates from creating a system that was almost as bad as slavery --- AND THAT EFFORT was ultimately defeated. (by 1877 it had been defeated politically ---the short-lived trans-racial alliance of poor farmers under the Populist Party pre-1896 was also defeated --- leading to almost 60 years of Jim Crow -- which was also defeated not by a white-black alliance in the South but by federal law enforced by federal troops ---) In effect, I am arguing that OUR SIDE has a rough road ahead making the pro-solidarity argument in favor of open borders --- (by the way -- before the Labor Aristocracy argument you have Marx's writings that British workers needed to fight in solidarity with immigrant Irish workers -- RESISTING the tendency to oppose Irish immigration into Britain because the Irish would work for lower wages --- he famously stated in a letter to Engels (don't know the cite, sorry) that Britain not only had a Bourgeois Landowning class and a Bourgoisie proper but was developing a Bougeois working class --- "For a country that exploits the whole world, this is not surprising." (or something like that). it is not surprising that the period in which the US working class made its most significant gains vis a vis capital was between the Depession and the 1970s --- during which time as a result of draconian immigration laws adopted in the 1920s (as well as World War II and the depression) --- the percentage of the population that was immigrant fell dramatically --- only to begin rising after the immigration reform of 1965. Yes -- we must "storm heaven's gate" but we have to really work hard to make the solidarity case --- On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 1:03 PM A.R. G wrote: > > the social democratic model of high real wages and a strong > "social wage" created by some version of the welfare state (more generous > in Europe than in the US for sure) is unfortunately inconsistent with an > open borders reality > > Hi, > > Can you send some literature on this? I am assuming you are referring to > Lenin's idea about the labor aristocracy? On what empirical grounds do we > judge that social democracy is inconsistent with "open borders"? > > Amith R. Gupta > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:02 AM Michael Meeropol via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > >> POSTING RULES & NOTES >> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> * >> >> Though I am mostly persuaded by comrade Chacon's arguments against the >> Nagle article (which I haven't read) I do believe that we on the left face >> a conundrum --- the social democratic model of high real wages and a >> strong >> "social wage" created by some version of the welfare state (more generous >> in Europe than in the US for sure) is unfortunately inconsistent with an >> open borders reality --- >> >> Obviously, the solution to the "push" that leads people to risk (and lose) >> their lives fleeing North Africa, Middle East wars, Central Ameican death >> squads and criminal gangs needs to be removed by massive revolutionary >> changes in the global South the US and Europe can do a lot to >> ameliorate the situation --- (the US mostly does more harm than good, of >> course). >> >> But until real wages in the world become equal with a "race to the top" >> rather than a race to the bottom there will be a tension between open >> borders and (global north) working class incomes >> >>
Re: [Marxism] Raed Fares, leader of Kafranbel killed by HTS gunmen in Idlib
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Louis Proyect says: "Actually, there have been very few murders of civil society activists by Islamists in Syria". I am not sure how many, but there have been some. On 9 December 2013, four activists in Douma - Razan Zeitouneh, Wael Hamada, Samira Khalil and Nazem Hamadi - were abducted by armed men and disappeared. In the absence of any information about them since then, we can assume they were murdered. According to Robin Yassin-Kassab and Leila al-Shami, "Most people blame Zahran Alloush's Jaysh al-Islam, Douma's strongest militia, for the abduction". (Burning Country, Pluto Press, 2016, page x) In the case of Raed Fares and Hamoud Juneid, I would be inclined to suspect Turkish military intelligence, which has been accused of killing opponents of the Sochi deal. But I admit I have no evidence to confirm this suspicion. Louis says: "...Syria would have been better off if Islamists had taken power in 2013 or so and rapidly closed economic and political ranks with Turkey". Replacing one oppressive regime by another was not the aim of the revolution. The "Kurdish leadership" rightly rejected this false choice. Chris Slee From: Marxism on behalf of Louis Proyect via Marxism Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2018 1:14:59 PM To: Chris Slee Subject: Re: [Marxism] Raed Fares, leader of Kafranbel killed by HTS gunmen in Idlib POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 11/26/18 6:24 PM, Chris Slee via Marxism wrote: This suggests to me that Raed Fares and Hamoud Juneid may have been murdered by the Turkish state or a group under its control. Actually, there have been very few murders of civil society activists by Islamists in Syria. Of course, there is Daesh but it has nothing to do with the struggle against Assad. Frankly, for all of the junk put out by Norton, Blumenthal and Khalek, Syria would have been better off if Islamists had taken power in 2013 or so and rapidly closed economic and political ranks with Turkey. Of course, if the idiotic Kurdish leadership had continued its filthy non-aggression pact with Assad, there might have been consequences. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/chris_w_slee%40hotmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] GM layoffs are another victory for capital over labor - The Washington Post
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[Marxism] G.M., Not Trump, Is the Real Villain to Some Ohio Factory Workers
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * (This jackass reporter couldn't find a single Black worker to interview.) NY Times, Nov. 28, 2018 G.M., Not Trump, Is the Real Villain to Some Ohio Factory Workers By Noam Scheiber LORDSTOWN, Ohio — After an election campaign in which he had pledged a manufacturing renaissance, President Trump came to this once-thriving industrial region of northeastern Ohio last year and all but waved a mission-accomplished flag. The jobs are “all coming back,” he announced. “Don’t move, don’t sell your house.” That vow collided with the shifting dynamics of the auto industry on Monday when General Motors told workers it was idling Lordstown’s prized Chevrolet factory. “Some people were crying,” said Joyce Olesky, a 23-year employee of the plant. “I looked over and saw people who looked like they had the flu, turning white.” Many Lordstown residents recalled that Mr. Trump had promoted steel tariffs and his trade savvy as a way to create jobs. But while critics faulted the president for failing to deliver what he promised, a number of workers were quick to exonerate him. Some portrayed him as well intentioned but simply outgunned by larger economic forces. Others suggested that whatever Mr. Trump’s flaws, they paled in comparison to those of General Motors, which they considered the real culprit. “I believe that no matter tariff or not, G.M. will continue to take our cars out of this country because it’s cheaper to do it and ship it back,” said Ms. Olesky, a Trump supporter. Beyond the roughly 1,600 jobs that are likely to be lost at the plant, there are a few dozen suppliers employing thousands of workers in the region, along with businesses here in the Mahoning Valley that will be hit hard by the loss of customers. On Monday morning, Earl Ross, the owner of Ross’ Eatery & Pub, a social hub in Lordstown, was in a tree stand poised to hunt deer when he received a text message about the news. “My reaction was a sick stomach,” Mr. Ross said, “and for the whole rest of the day, I just sat in the rain and thought about the future.” There is also the likely effect on the housing market, as workers try to offload mortgages amid the prospect of unemployment. Jason Sickler, who has worked at the plant since 2000, said he would prepare his house for a possible sale as he contemplated whether to request a transfer to a General Motors operation in another city. “I was literally nauseous yesterday when I walked out of there,” said Mr. Sickler, who enjoys his job in the trim department and is loath to relocate with a son still in high school. “Today I’m trying to get a better game plan, accept it a little more.” In some ways the story of Lordstown in recent decades sounds a lot like the story of industrial America writ large. The number of workers at the G.M. plant peaked around 13,000 in the mid-1980s, according to the union there. It had dropped below 5,000 by this decade, as foreign competition and automation took their toll. But in other respects G.M.’s presence allowed the village of about 3,200 to defy the economic realities bearing down on the region. Factory workers have helped generate millions of dollars in village income-tax revenue over the years to pay for infrastructure and other expenses. “We’ve been blessed with the ability to have money to do that,” said Arno Hill, who has served as mayor in two stints totaling nearly 20 years since the early 1990s. Even during the recession and financial crisis of 2008 and 2009, which pushed G.M. into bankruptcy, the plant and the town were only briefly affected. And in 2010, when G.M. began to produce a new fuel-efficient sedan, the Chevrolet Cruze, in Lordstown, workers at the plant were overjoyed. Marisol Gonzalez-Bowers, a veteran of the Lordstown plant, said she could easily take home $75,000 a year during the early half of this decade. “Oh, my God, we were so excited,” said Marisol Gonzalez-Bowers, who has spent more than two decades at the plant. “We had three shifts, were running at full capacity. Twelve hours if you wanted it.” Ms. Gonzalez-Bowers said that with overtime, she could easily take home $75,000 a year during the early half of this decade. Even with Lordstown’s relative durability, Mr. Trump’s vision of an industrial comeback resonated in town. Mr. Trump carried the county by about 6 percentage points, a nearly 30-point swing toward Republicans since President Barack Obama won it decisively in 2012. But the day after the election, General Motors announced that it would eliminate a third shift at the Lordstown plant. After years of strong sales, the Cruze
[Marxism] Sneak peak of Eugene V. Debs: A Graphic Biography
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[Marxism] Jewish Professor Finds Swastikas Outside Her Office At Columbia Teachers College: Gothamist
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[Marxism] Kinshasa Makambo; Piripkura | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Despite their geographical distance and socioeconomic distinctions, the countries featured in two new documentaries have a lot in common. They are the Democratic Republic of Congo and Brazil, archetypes of the primitive accumulation of capital that Marx described as ones in which the treasures captured outside Europe by undisguised looting, enslavement, and murder, are floated back to the mother-country and turned into capital. Both countries relied on slavery and forced labor for capital accumulation. Additionally, in the modern age both furnished rubber for the burgeoning automobile industry. Finally, both are homes to vast rainforests that are being exploited for commodity production at the expense of the people who dwell within them. Humanity as a whole will suffer the deepening consequences of climate change as rainforests—the lungs of Mother Earth—get chopped down for the benefit of mining, farming, ranching, timber mills, and the like. full: https://louisproyect.org/2018/11/28/kinshasa-makambo-piripkura/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Did Someone Plant a Story Tying Paul Manafort to Julian Assange? - POLITICO Magazine
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[Marxism] Open borders
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * We do not control the borders. If employers want “illegals” to work for them, they will be allowed in. Our choice is how we will respond to the “illegals.” And all our experiences tell us we must embrace them and do what we can to improve their conditions. Only then will we take away the weapon of the desperate worker from the hands of the employers. In part, what brought me to this view was a folk singer more than 50 years ago. He sang Phil Ochs Bracero and he took a moment to explain that these workers would be allowed in to the US. until the harvest was over and then deported. Any support on our part for border security will be used as a whip against the undocumented workers. ken h _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] [UCE] The capitalist neoconservatives
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Michael Meeropol writes "I hope a broad coalition that includes capitalists can beat back the domestic neo-cons..." The US capitalists beat back the neo cons when they installed Obama in office. Or, more accurately, they became convinced that a different strategy was necessary. We see how great that worked out. Now, the problem is a lot more serious. In any case, what was required was the near collapse of Iraqi society, a collapse from which it has not recovered and may not ever recover. But we are talking about a global situation here, and it's not only Trump. We have Netanyahu in Israel, Morsi in India, Putin in Russia, Duterte in the Philippines, Erdogan in Turkey, Assad in Syria and Bolsonaro coming to power in Brazil. In my opinion, Ortega is also moving in a similar direction, although I suspect that some on this list will strongly object to this belief. All represent similar dynamics, some to a greater extreme than others. They all represent capitalism entering into a greater and greater stage of crisis on the one hand, while the working class on the other hand is confused, divided and nearly paralyzed. When and if the working class really moves, it will be to assert its class interests. The very second there is the slightest hint of that, the capitalist class - all wings of it - will desert the movement in droves. In fact, before any such movement even starts to get under way the capitalist class and its representatives will do all in their power to prevent the working class from playing any serious role. To the extent they succeed will be to the same extent that they demobilize and demoralize the working class. In other words, help maintain the present direction of things. John Reimann On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 5:43 AM Michael Meeropol wrote: > The analogy to the destruction of the German capitalists who supported > Hitler is chilling -- > > today's neoconservative capitalists are presiding over the destruction of > the planet --- perhaps some hundreds of millions of humans will survive and > SOME organized forms of society may even flourish (Oreskes' novel THE > COLLAPSE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION envisions a second Chinese People's > Republic cerca 2093) but will it be socialist and humanist or authoritarian > -- almost fascist?? > > I hope a broad coalition that includes capitalists can beat back the > domestic neo-cons --- > > Don't think that there will be a strong left to pick up the pieces if the > neo-cons prevail (even if they don't the odds against civilization -- > ANYWHERE --- decrease every day). Resistance is mostly existential (as in > French existentialism not survival) --- we struggle even though we 're > almost certain to lose! > > > -- *“In politics, abstract terms conceal treachery.” *from "The Black Jacobins" by C. L. R. James Check out:https:http://oaklandsocialist.com also on Facebook _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The case against “The case against open borders” | SocialistWorker.org
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Chacón affirms and concretizes bedrock principles of internationalism and solidarity. See also https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/11/07/from-what-shore-does-socialism-arrive/ : “Today’s migration points to the multiple forms of exploitation and dispossession that define the contemporary working class: from the corporate land grabs, climate change, and state violence that make subsistence farming impossible to the ways that the drug trade, finance, and the “migration industry” are able to extract surplus independently of the wage and, in the process, make life unliveable. Yet it also illustrates the active capacity of the working class to pose new forms of resistance to their subordination – or at least the conditions of their subordination – within and in relation to the labor process.2 In other words, workers may move to avoid specific working conditions, or to avoid being part of the industrial reserve army that otherwise sets the conditions of exploitation in a place like Honduras. In this sense, migration is autonomous because it is something conceptually and logically prior to the emergence of the state’s ever more extensive biopolitical and disciplinary border and labor management techniques. These techniques don’t simply seek to stop migrant flows, but actually use migrant flows to further segment and structure labor markets along the migrant trail in the countries of origin, reception, and those crossed along the way.” “It is, after all according to Marx, the double freedom of dispossession-cum-wage dependence which is the defining feature of the working class and in this sense these individuals partaking in “the yearly proletarian globe-hopping of seasonal workers by steamship, railroad and automobile” or by “radical separation of airborne migration linked by years of remittances and phone calls,” should hold a pride of place as the very literal foot soldiers of the working class.4” “The border and migration regimes of the capitalist state work not simply to repel migrants or flex national sovereignty but to find new opportunities for cheap labor, whether migrants are coming or going. The point is that migrants are coming and going; their agency is the basis for capital’s continually multiplying regimes of capture, and their movement is thus part of a class struggle.” On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 2:02 PM Michael Meeropol via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > Though I am mostly persuaded by comrade Chacon's arguments against the > Nagle article (which I haven't read) I do believe that we on the left face > a conundrum ... _ > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Open borders
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * IMHO "Open Borders" is what is required for all imperialist countries, but not for other countries. I am writing in reply to Michael Meeropol. He wrote, "But until real wages in the world become equal with a "race to the top" rather than a race to the bottom there will be a tension between open borders and (global north) working class incomes "Pushing solidarity is important but there is no question that this reality makes it doubly harder ... " Open borders is the most basic democratic right, the right to move from one place to another. The fact that it contradicts the existence of nation states at a very fundamental level makes it what people used to call a "transitional demand", but in reality ALL programmatic issues that meet the needs of the working class and oppressed are transitional because achieving any one of them intensifies the crisis of the system in one way or another. Achieving a $15/hour minimum wage in the USA is a good example of what I mean. Opponents of the working class always latch on to these effects: raising wages will cause employers to lay off workers, opening the borders will result in competition for jobs and resources, etc, etc. To the extent that their arguments are true, a revolutionary and really socialist program must have answers at a higher level. At this point in history, our program cannot be achieved in the short run, so our answers can serve only to educate small numbers of people. By the same token, the programmatic points developed 50 or one hundred years ago also need to be revised. How can anyone talk about "nationalizing" an industry when all of the main industries operate internationally? Take the automobile industry as an example. Nationalize GM in the USA? What about Canada, China, Mexico and the other countries whre GM operates? Similarly, how can the global warming catastrophe be addressed within a single "nation state", even one like the USA? Toothless climate change treaties? Capitalism has truly gone beyond the limits of the "nation-state" but cannot do without it either. On the other hand, if we just march around with signs saying "world wide socialist revolution now!" we will be marching alone. James Cannon, despite all of his warts and nose hair, once wrote about agitation, propaganda and education. To this he should have added, development of theory. Today's left is atomized, but growing. Dominated by abject reformism, but searching for answers to problems that reformism cannot solve. There are grounds for hope, but not if we just adapt to the arguments against struggle. Anthony. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] The case against “The case against open borders” | SocialistWorker.org
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * > the social democratic model of high real wages and a strong "social wage" created by some version of the welfare state (more generous in Europe than in the US for sure) is unfortunately inconsistent with an open borders reality Hi, Can you send some literature on this? I am assuming you are referring to Lenin's idea about the labor aristocracy? On what empirical grounds do we judge that social democracy is inconsistent with "open borders"? Amith R. Gupta On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:02 AM Michael Meeropol via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > Though I am mostly persuaded by comrade Chacon's arguments against the > Nagle article (which I haven't read) I do believe that we on the left face > a conundrum --- the social democratic model of high real wages and a strong > "social wage" created by some version of the welfare state (more generous > in Europe than in the US for sure) is unfortunately inconsistent with an > open borders reality --- > > Obviously, the solution to the "push" that leads people to risk (and lose) > their lives fleeing North Africa, Middle East wars, Central Ameican death > squads and criminal gangs needs to be removed by massive revolutionary > changes in the global South the US and Europe can do a lot to > ameliorate the situation --- (the US mostly does more harm than good, of > course). > > But until real wages in the world become equal with a "race to the top" > rather than a race to the bottom there will be a tension between open > borders and (global north) working class incomes > > Pushing solidarity is important but there is no question that this reality > makes it doubly harder ... > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Trump forging his own Gaza on the southern border
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[Marxism] another tipping point - disappearing salmon in Scotland
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[Marxism] US - Farm bankruptcies surpass Great Recession levels in upper Midwest
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[Marxism] What White Supremacists Know | Boston Review
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Re: [Marxism] Reification of Lukacs question
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Well, the concept of reification in *History and class consciousness* is exactly what I research in my master's degree in Philosophy. To begin with I recommend two guys; Andrew Feenberg (in English), and Vincent Charbonnier (in French). These are the ones who have helped me the most in my dissertation. *- Vincent Charbonnier (a lot of articles)* https://univ-tlse2.academia.edu/VincentCharbonnier *- Andrew Feenberg* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlIe5CHdeEo https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283279166_Lukacs's_Theory_of_Reification_and_Contemporary_Social_Movements Am Mi., 28. Nov. 2018 um 13:10 Uhr schrieb Andrew Stewart via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > I am looking for something to help my understanding of reification and the > notion proposed by Lukacs in HISTORY AND CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS. Any > suggestions deeply appreciated. > > Best regards, > Andrew Stewart > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/glauberataide%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Jack Ma, China’s Richest Man, Belongs to the Communist Party. Of Course.
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * NY Times, Nov. 28, 2018 Jack Ma, China’s Richest Man, Belongs to the Communist Party. Of Course. By Li Yuan HONG KONG — Jack Ma, China’s richest man and the guiding force behind its biggest e-commerce company, belongs to an elite club of power brokers, 89 million strong: the Chinese Communist Party. The party’s official People’s Daily newspaper included Mr. Ma, executive chairman of the Alibaba Group and the country’s most prominent capitalist, in a list it published on Monday of 100 Chinese people who had made extraordinary contributions to the country’s development over the last 40 years. The entry for Mr. Ma identified him as a party member. It may sound contradictory that the wealthy Mr. Ma belongs to an organization that got its start calling for the empowerment of the proletariat. But Mr. Ma’s political affiliation came as no surprise to many Chinese and China watchers. Though it still publicly extols the principles of Karl Marx, the Chinese Communist Party largely abandoned collectivist doctrine in the post-Mao era, freeing private entrepreneurs to help build the world’s second-largest economy after the United States. In fact, the disclosure reveals a party that is eager to prove its legitimacy by affiliating itself with capitalist success stories. Mr. Ma is a tech rock star in China, and his membership in the party could prod others to follow his lead. “Even Jack Ma is a party member,” said Kellee Tsai, dean of humanities and social science at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, referring to the party’s pitch. “Doesn’t it make you want to join the party, too?” Alibaba declined to comment on the matter. The Hurun Report, a research organization in Shanghai that tracks the wealthy in China, estimates Mr. Ma and his family’s net worth at 270 billion renminbi, or $39 billion. Today’s party isn’t exactly exclusive. Its members represent nearly 7 percent of China’s population. Its ranks include government officials, businesspeople and even dissidents. Being a member often suggests a desire to network and get ahead rather than express one’s political views. For businesspeople in particular, membership is more often a matter of expediency. Party membership provides a layer of protection in a country where private ownership protections are often haphazardly enforced or ignored entirely. Though its constitution still describes members as “vanguard fighters of the Chinese working class imbued with communist consciousness,” the party has veered away from its communist roots and welcomed private entrepreneurs since 2001. Some of the richest men in China are party members, including Wang Jianlin of the Dalian Wanda Group, a property and entertainment conglomerate, and Xu Jiayin of the Evergrande Group, a property developer. It is unclear when Mr. Ma joined the party or how much he pays in dues. The party sets dues at 2 percent of monthly salary for higher-income members. The star power of the Chinese entrepreneur class has dimmed since Xi Jinping became the country’s top leader in 2012. Under Mr. Xi, the Communist Party plays a bigger role in not only Chinese politics but also the economy and everyday life. Any entity with more than three party members is required to set up a party cell. Some three-quarters of private enterprises, or 1.9 million, had done so in 2017, according to official data. Companies say they face much greater pressure to set up the cells than in the past. Even some of the coolest start-ups in tech-savvy Beijing have designated party-building spaces. The disclosure of Mr. Ma’s membership reflects the thinking that the party controls the economy and society, said Guo Yuhua, a sociology professor at Tsinghua University in Beijing and a critic of the party. “It’s going backward from the Deng Xiaoping era, when the party advocated the separation of the party and the government,” she said, referring to the party leader who ultimately governed China during its early years of reform in the 1970s and ’80s. The disclosure also drew attention because Mr. Ma had in the past tried to keep his distance from the government. When asked at public appearances how he managed government relations, he often said, “Fall in love with the government, but don’t get married.” But as Mr. Xi tightens ideological controls and the power of the state grows, many successful entrepreneurs have made a point of showing their party loyalty. Mr. Ma visited Yan’an, the city often considered the birthplace of the Chinese Communist Revolution, in 2015, according to the Chinese news media. Pony Ma, who is chief
[Marxism] Reification of Lukacs question
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Re: [Marxism] What is at stake in the “yellow jacket” mobilization - International Viewpoint - online socialist magazine
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * The appropriate response to a pro-capitalist fuel tax is to demand a dollar for dollar (franc for franc [!!] --- er, Euro for Euro) reduction in payoll or VAT or other broad based taxes Fighting just against the fuel tax plays right into the hands of the "global warming skeptics" who decry all efforts to save the planet as ruining the economy Sad situation when the working class is united in defense of carbon pollution On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 9:02 AM Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > http://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article5802 > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/mameerop%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] [UCE] The capitalist neoconservatives
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * The analogy to the destruction of the German capitalists who supported Hitler is chilling -- today's neoconservative capitalists are presiding over the destruction of the planet --- perhaps some hundreds of millions of humans will survive and SOME organized forms of society may even flourish (Oreskes' novel THE COLLAPSE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION envisions a second Chinese People's Republic cerca 2093) but will it be socialist and humanist or authoritarian -- almost fascist?? I hope a broad coalition that includes capitalists can beat back the domestic neo-cons --- Don't think that there will be a strong left to pick up the pieces if the neo-cons prevail (even if they don't the odds against civilization -- ANYWHERE --- decrease every day). Resistance is mostly existential (as in French existentialism not survival) --- we struggle even though we 're almost certain to lose! _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Small Business Saturday: Why shopping local isn’t enough to take on Amazon - Vox
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[Marxism] What is fueling the fuel price protests in Bulgaria? | Lefteast
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Re: [Marxism] The case against “The case against open borders” | SocialistWorker.org
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Though I am mostly persuaded by comrade Chacon's arguments against the Nagle article (which I haven't read) I do believe that we on the left face a conundrum --- the social democratic model of high real wages and a strong "social wage" created by some version of the welfare state (more generous in Europe than in the US for sure) is unfortunately inconsistent with an open borders reality --- Obviously, the solution to the "push" that leads people to risk (and lose) their lives fleeing North Africa, Middle East wars, Central Ameican death squads and criminal gangs needs to be removed by massive revolutionary changes in the global South the US and Europe can do a lot to ameliorate the situation --- (the US mostly does more harm than good, of course). But until real wages in the world become equal with a "race to the top" rather than a race to the bottom there will be a tension between open borders and (global north) working class incomes Pushing solidarity is important but there is no question that this reality makes it doubly harder ... _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] bellingcat - Open Source Survey of the Alleged November 24 2018 Chemical Attack in Aleppo - bellingcat
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[Marxism] Financialisation or profitability? | Michael Roberts Blog
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Financialisation, like neoliberalism, is the buzz word among leftists and heterodox economists. It dominates leftist academic conferences and circles as the theme that supposedly explains crises, as well as a cause of rising inequality in modern capitalist economies particularly over the last 40 years. The latest manifestation of this financialisation hypothesis comes from Grace Blakeley, a British leftist economist, who appears to be a rising media star in the UK. In a recent paper, she presented all the propositions of the financialisation school. But what does the term ‘financialisation’ mean and does it add value to our understanding of the contradictions of modern capitalism and guide us to the right policy to change things? I don’t think so. This is because either the term is used so widely that it provides very little extra insight; or it is specified in such a way as to be both theoretically and empirically wrong. https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2018/11/27/financialisation-or-profitability/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
