[Marxism] Rally in Support of the Liberation Struggle of the Kashmiri People
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[Marxism] Iraq: Rally in Support of the Popular Uprising
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Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity"
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Correction: Below, where I said "the SDF was advancing from the east", I should have said "from the west". Chris Slee From: Marxism on behalf of Chris Slee via Marxism Sent: Monday, 28 October 2019 12:10:15 PM To: Chris Slee Subject: Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity" POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Michael Karadjis says: "As I have continually pointed out, the SDF's conquest of Arab-majority, rebel-held northern Aleppo/Tal Rifaat region in early 2016, under air cover of the Russian airforce, was basically similar to what the 'TFSA' is doing now - conquest outside their base of support, expulsion of the local population, collaborating with an invading power which was already raining massive death on Syrians." The SDF's capture of Tal Rifaat was the culmination of several years of conflict between the SDF (or its precursor organisations) and Turkish-backed rebels. On February 3, 2016, the leadership of Afrin canton issued a statement including the following: "For three years, the Afrin Canton has been under a dual siege. On the one hand, there are armed groups in the east and south that launch assaults, block roads, ban the entry of food and medical aid to the canton , obstruct movement of civilians from and to the canton and kidnap them. On the other hand, the Turkish government imposes a firm closure on the border from north and west..." (appeal to UN, cited by Meredith Tax, "A Road Unforeseen: Women Fight the Islamic State", p.174) We should also note that in the preceding period there had been deep divisions within the anti-Assad rebel movement. In 2014 Jabhat al-Nusra attacked and crushed the Syrian Revolutionaries Front (a predominantly Arab organisation). Some (though not all) of the survivors of the SRF fled to Afrin and later became part of the Syrian Democratic Forces. Arab fighters played a leading role in the capture of Tal Rifaat. We can not necessarily assume that the people of Tal Rifaat preferred the Turkish-backed rebels to the SDF. It is true that thousands of people fled Tal Rifaat during the fighting. I think this was mainly to escape the Russian bombing, and the possibility that Assad's troops would enter Tal Rifaat. At the time Assadist troops were advancing on Tal Rifaat from the south, while the SDF was advancing from the east. The SDF got there first. I think Russia would have preferred that Assad's troops arrived first, but for the time being Russia put up with SDF control of Tal Rifaat. Returning to the present situation, Michael says: "The problem however is the question of what the SDF may have given away, or agreed to do, to get this Assad 'protection'. " It is worrying that Assad's troops are entering northeastern Syria. If they were to confine themselves to deterring further Turkish aggression, that would be OK. But I fear that they will try to re-impose the regime's control over the area. Time will tell. Chris Slee (The previous version of this article was incomplete - I pressed the send button prematurely) From: Marxism on behalf of mkaradjis . via Marxism Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2019 6:46 PM To: Chris Slee Subject: Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity" POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I agree with Chris that the SDF getting help from the US, or from Assad, when the areas where it has its base of support, especially Kurdish areas, are under attack, is not the same as the 'TFSA' taking part in Turkey's conquest operation in northeast Syria, or in Afrin. In the first case it is defensive of their own interests and those of their base; in the second case they are far from their base of support and essentially subordinate to Turkey's interests. Of course, that is not always the case. As I have continually pointed out, the SDF's conquest of Arab-majority, rebel-held northern Aleppo/Tal Rifaat region in early 2016, under air cover of the Russian airforce, was basically similar to what the 'TFSA' is doing now - conquest outside their base of
[Marxism] Trump met with boos, 'Lock Him Up' chant at World Series Game 5
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Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity"
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Michael Karadjis says: "As I have continually pointed out, the SDF's conquest of Arab-majority, rebel-held northern Aleppo/Tal Rifaat region in early 2016, under air cover of the Russian airforce, was basically similar to what the 'TFSA' is doing now - conquest outside their base of support, expulsion of the local population, collaborating with an invading power which was already raining massive death on Syrians." The SDF's capture of Tal Rifaat was the culmination of several years of conflict between the SDF (or its precursor organisations) and Turkish-backed rebels. On February 3, 2016, the leadership of Afrin canton issued a statement including the following: "For three years, the Afrin Canton has been under a dual siege. On the one hand, there are armed groups in the east and south that launch assaults, block roads, ban the entry of food and medical aid to the canton , obstruct movement of civilians from and to the canton and kidnap them. On the other hand, the Turkish government imposes a firm closure on the border from north and west..." (appeal to UN, cited by Meredith Tax, "A Road Unforeseen: Women Fight the Islamic State", p.174) We should also note that in the preceding period there had been deep divisions within the anti-Assad rebel movement. In 2014 Jabhat al-Nusra attacked and crushed the Syrian Revolutionaries Front (a predominantly Arab organisation). Some (though not all) of the survivors of the SRF fled to Afrin and later became part of the Syrian Democratic Forces. Arab fighters played a leading role in the capture of Tal Rifaat. We can not necessarily assume that the people of Tal Rifaat preferred the Turkish-backed rebels to the SDF. It is true that thousands of people fled Tal Rifaat during the fighting. I think this was mainly to escape the Russian bombing, and the possibility that Assad's troops would enter Tal Rifaat. At the time Assadist troops were advancing on Tal Rifaat from the south, while the SDF was advancing from the east. The SDF got there first. I think Russia would have preferred that Assad's troops arrived first, but for the time being Russia put up with SDF control of Tal Rifaat. Returning to the present situation, Michael says: "The problem however is the question of what the SDF may have given away, or agreed to do, to get this Assad 'protection'. " It is worrying that Assad's troops are entering northeastern Syria. If they were to confine themselves to deterring further Turkish aggression, that would be OK. But I fear that they will try to re-impose the regime's control over the area. Time will tell. Chris Slee (The previous version of this article was incomplete - I pressed the send button prematurely) From: Marxism on behalf of mkaradjis . via Marxism Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2019 6:46 PM To: Chris Slee Subject: Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity" POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I agree with Chris that the SDF getting help from the US, or from Assad, when the areas where it has its base of support, especially Kurdish areas, are under attack, is not the same as the 'TFSA' taking part in Turkey's conquest operation in northeast Syria, or in Afrin. In the first case it is defensive of their own interests and those of their base; in the second case they are far from their base of support and essentially subordinate to Turkey's interests. Of course, that is not always the case. As I have continually pointed out, the SDF's conquest of Arab-majority, rebel-held northern Aleppo/Tal Rifaat region in early 2016, under air cover of the Russian airforce, was basically similar to what the 'TFSA' is doing now - conquest outside their base of support, expulsion of the local population, collaborating with an invading power which was already raining massive death on Syrians. Unfortunately, in that case, Chris and other Rojava supporters and SA members always justify or provide apologetics for this. This will be coming in Chris's next response. Yet it can hardly be avoided, because this action cut East Aleppo off from its hinterland which reached the Turkish border, making it easier for Assad to surround Aleppo (and the SDF also later aided the actual Assad conquest of Aleppo) and this is remembered by the rebels and their base. As I said, the opposite is the case at the
Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity"
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Michael Karadjis says: "As I have continually pointed out, the SDF's conquest of Arab-majority, rebel-held northern Aleppo/Tal Rifaat region in early 2016, under air cover of the Russian airforce, was basically similar to what the 'TFSA' is doing now - conquest outside their base of support, expulsion of the local population, collaborating with an invading power which was already raining massive death on Syrians." The SDF's capture of Tal Rifaat was the culmination of several years of conflict between the SDF (or its precursor organisations) and Turkish-backed rebels. On February ... the leadership of Afrin canton issued a statement including the following: … We should also note that in the preceding period there had been deep divisions within the anti-Assad rebel movement. In 2014 Jabhat al-Nusra attacked and crushed the Syrian Revolutionaries Front (a predominantly Arab organisation). Some (though not all) of the survivors of the SRF fled to Afrin and later became part of the Syrian Democratic Forces. Arab fighters played a leading role in the capture of Tal Rifaat. We can not necessarily assume that the people of Tal Rifaat preferred the Turkish backed rebels to the SDF. It is true that thousands of people fled Tal Rifaat. I think this was mainly to escape the Russian bombing, and the possibility that Assad's troops would enter Tal Rifaat. At the time Assadist troops were advancing on Tal Rifaat from the south. The SDF got there first. I think Russia would have preferred that Assad's troops arrived first, but for the time being they put up with SDF control of Tal Rifaat. Returning to the present situation, Michael says: "The problem however is the question of what the SDF may have given away, or agreed to do, to get this Assad 'protection'. " It is worrying that Assad's troops are entering northeastern Syria. If they were to confine themselves to deterring further Turkish aggression, that would be OK. But I fear that they will try to re-impose the regime's control over the area. Time will tell. Chris Slee From: Marxism on behalf of mkaradjis . via Marxism Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2019 6:46 PM To: Chris Slee Subject: Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity" POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I agree with Chris that the SDF getting help from the US, or from Assad, when the areas where it has its base of support, especially Kurdish areas, are under attack, is not the same as the 'TFSA' taking part in Turkey's conquest operation in northeast Syria, or in Afrin. In the first case it is defensive of their own interests and those of their base; in the second case they are far from their base of support and essentially subordinate to Turkey's interests. Of course, that is not always the case. As I have continually pointed out, the SDF's conquest of Arab-majority, rebel-held northern Aleppo/Tal Rifaat region in early 2016, under air cover of the Russian airforce, was basically similar to what the 'TFSA' is doing now - conquest outside their base of support, expulsion of the local population, collaborating with an invading power which was already raining massive death on Syrians. Unfortunately, in that case, Chris and other Rojava supporters and SA members always justify or provide apologetics for this. This will be coming in Chris's next response. Yet it can hardly be avoided, because this action cut East Aleppo off from its hinterland which reached the Turkish border, making it easier for Assad to surround Aleppo (and the SDF also later aided the actual Assad conquest of Aleppo) and this is remembered by the rebels and their base. As I said, the opposite is the case at the moment. The problem however is the question of what the SDF may have given away, or agreed to do, to get this Assad "protection". There have been rumours that the SDF may have agreed to take part in Assad's offensive against Greater Idlib as quid pro quo. In that case, it would be doing the same as the 'TFSA' now, and we should of course wish for the defeat of any such sold-out 'Rojava' forces in that case. But for the moment, I will give the SDF the benefit of the doubt on that. (Ironically, if it were true, it may be quite similar to the quid pro quo that Turkey has no doubt agreed to for getting Putin's support for seizing 3000 square kilometres between
[Marxism] The targeting of Cindy Sheehan and Helen Steel
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[Marxism] The 41 most shocking lines from Donald Trump's Baghdadi announcement - CNNPolitics
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[Marxism] The new misogyny
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Some really illuminating critiques of trans ideology, and the misogyny at its heart, are by left-wing transexuals such as Miranda Yardley. She too receives rape and death threats from the violent misogynists that some people here seem so enamoured of. https://www.afterellen.com/general-news/567823-girl-dick-the-cotton-ceiling-and-the-cultural-war-on-lesbians-girls-and-women _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] LGBA
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * It seems very odd for someone to claim there are just vague accusations about violent treats against gender-critical feminists. They are all over the internet. Indeed, months ago, I pointed him to the Peak Trans site which has documented hundreds upon hundreds of them. In Britain the situation is so bad that scores of left and trade union activist have released a statement calling for it to stop; https://rdln.wordpress.com/2019/10/03/british-trade-union-and-political-activists-defend-womens-right-to-speak-organise/ When gender-critical feminists put forward their views they are demonised by the lie that they are 'transphobes', 'terfs' and then it's all on - rape threats, death threats, hacking up into bits threats. beating with bats threats, lynchings threats - who's like the KKK then*? -* attempts to remove them from social media, get them fired, get them visited by police, get them deplatformed and on and on. The violent misogynists also vent poison at gender-critical gay and transexual activists. They hate transexuals who reject their male entitledness, and they're hostile to gay men who don't like their homophobia. Fortunately more gay men are starting to solidarise with women. https://rdln.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/woke-misogyny-and-homophobia-a-gay-critique-of-trans-ideology/ Of course, no genuine liberation movement spouts such hideous, violent misogyny. It's a bit of a give away. . . I see the misogynist men's entitlement brigade is now turning their bile on Cindy Sheehan, so she can expect the full treatment. And the woke men will turn a blind eye. Phil _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] 102 mph gust recorded in Sonoma County: Sustained winds break hurricane force - SFGate
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[Marxism] The GOP and D. trump
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * *Donald Trump represents a significant minority of the US capitalist class* The recent discussion on this list about whether Trump’s “policy” in Syria represents the interests of US imperialism or not points to a bigger, and deeper question about Trump. It is easy to dismiss him as an accidental figure of history propelled through the cracks in the system from real estate and reality show to the White House, especially since his behavior is so blatantly inconsistent and outrageous. Nevertheless, he is not an accidental figure: he represents a significant sector of the capitalist class and its thinking. When the Soviet Union collapsed, and the United States won the cold war, the ruling class of the United States was elated, but didn’t really know what to do. They tried to continue on as if nothing had happened. They didn’t close down all of those military basis ringing the old USSR, they did not say “Good-bye Nato, you’re mission is over. Thank you very much.” They tried to invent new enemies and were overjoyed when Al-Queda gave them a new world threat to their system. No need to rework the system. But, the system designed for the cold war, was not working very well for its aftermath. China grew to become a new world power, US economic dominance was fading, and US military dominance was being challenged. The echoes of the defeat in Vietnam continue to resound around the world. The military power of the United States has not won the hearts and minds of the people of the world, except for a thin crust of corrupt politicians and businesspeople. The results are the truly endless series of wars the United States is involved in. And, Republicans remembered their tradition and their past. They remembered what they did after the First World War. They never ratified the Versailles Treaty, and they never joined the League of Nations. They turned their back on Europe, except to collect the money the Europeans owed the US. The closed the doors to immigration. They told the Europeans they believed in the Monroe Doctrine, and they tried to figure out how to get China out of the hands of the Europeans and the Japanese. They ripped up the wartime economic regulation of Woodrow Wilson and said that the business of America is business. They orchestrated a major escalation of union busting and a wave a racist terrorism. Of course, these policies were a disaster, but it took a decade before that became apparent. Even then they did not disappear, as the America First movement took firm root within the GOP. World War II caused the GOP to make a hasty retreat from their most openly pro-Nazi sentiments, and the beginning of the cold war caused them to continue their patriotic alliance of convenience with the Truman wing of the Democrats. This alliance was embodied by Dwight David Eisenhower’s presidency. Those ideas and policies never disappeared from the GOP. Senator Barry Goldwater, and 1964 GOP Presidential candidate, wanted the United States to leave the United Nations throughout his political career. The global policy framework within which Trump works is a throwback to this thread of traditional 20th century GOP thinking. Its basic tenets are that the United States should stop trying to be the leader of a world system. Instead it should look for ways to increase the wealth and power of the United States even when those goals bring the USA into conflict with old allies and friends. Alliances should be short term and based on expediency. This is why Trump has no qualms about betraying the Kurds. This is also why he has no qualms about calling for an end to NATO and trying to form a new alliance with Putin’s Russia. Trump has formed a de facto alliance among the three largest oil producers in the world: the USA, Russia and Saudi Arabia. In my opinion, this is the “rational” core of his geopolitics. Trump views Europe, all of Europe, as a headache that is more trouble than it is worth. So, get rid of it. Trump views China as a big problem. China should go back to being a big reservoir of cheap labor for US business to exploit. Within this framework, Trump works within a view of the world that does not care whether global warming is leading to a disaster or not, and does not care whether the economy is growing or contracting. According to this kind of thinking, capitalism will survive no matter what, and someone will always be able to make a buck out of every situation. Trump views capitalism as a continuous series of real estate swindles and casino bets. The best cheaters are the winners most of the time. Even if the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal and even the American
[Marxism] A Player With Shoulder Pain, and a League Happy to Turn Its Back
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * NY Times, Oct. 27, 2019 A Player With Shoulder Pain, and a League Happy to Turn Its Back By Michael Powell The Jets are their usual dispiriting mess on the field, but in the executive suites their leaders sound testosterone-infused, insisting that their players manifest the manly virtues of playing through pain. Of late the Jets confronted the challenge posed by Kelechi Osemele, a 6-foot-5, 300-plus-pound offensive lineman who has the accumulated scars of an eight-year-long N.F.L. life. He’s had sprained and twisted toes, knees and ankles, and his back can creak like an old wooden door. Sometime in the past year, perhaps in August and perhaps earlier, he tore the labrum in his right shoulder. A magnetic resonance imaging exam, he said, showed the muscle had torn clear off the shoulder bone. The Jets shrugged. Be a manly man, they told this two-time Pro Bowl selection. He took Toradol, a brand name version of the painkiller ketorolac, and it was suggested that he consider a cortisone shot or two. As cortisone is known to weaken cartilage and mask pain, doctors often recommend against it. Osemele passed. On Friday, Osemele ignored the Jets’ advice and had surgery. On Saturday, the Jets doubled down on their foolishness and released him. Osemele, who spoke with my colleague Danielle Allentuck and other reporters this week about his frustrations with the Jets, said his no mas moment arrived in early October. The shoulder throbbed and he was playing against fellow 300-pound men who bench-press 500 pounds. He told the coaches he could not practice, much less play. Insisting he just tough it out, the Jets began to dock him a game check of $580,000 per week, the maximum penalty for the crime of sitting out. Coach Adam Gase acknowledged that he hadn’t bothered to talk with Osemele about the situation. So a $15 billion industry flogs another of its players like a worn-down donkey. Osemele, to his credit, sought another opinion, and then another. The most recent doctor recommended surgery, and Osemele went under the knife on Friday, when, his agent said, surgeons found more extensive damage than expected. In consultation with the N.F.L. Players Association, Osemele’s representatives may take legal action against the team’s doctors. The Jets were not amused; after initially saying that they would dock Osemele the remainder of his salary for the season, they instead cut him. There’s so much that is revealing here about the heart of our culture’s most popular and brutal sport. The owners of the N.F.L.’s 32 teams are fine socialists among themselves, splitting the gilt disgorged by television and digital contracts, ticket and jersey sales and, soon, gambling, lovely gambling. They work cooperatively to shake down cities to build stadiums. But when it comes to their players, they become wonderfully 19th-century capitalists. A majority of football players work on nonguaranteed contracts, which is to say that when your local team says it has signed a player to a sweet deal, it pays to read the fine print. Very often that same player can be released if his performance falls off, or if a few too many sprains and blasts to the head slow him down. (Contracts in Major League Baseball and the N.B.A. usually come fully guaranteed, which explains why Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson can afford to most likely sit out the full season that is needed to rehabilitate a ruptured Achilles’ tendon (Durant) and a torn knee ligament (Thompson). The N.F.L. Players Association, though, is a weak vessel taking on water, and for years its contract with the league did not allow players to seek a second opinion. The sport was a company town, and the team doctor’s word was law. More recently, the union secured for players the right to seek second and third opinions. But that contract still did not let players act on those opinions. Robert W. Turner II comes to this discussion from multiple directions. He is a former professional football player, an assistant professor at the George Washington University School of Medicine & Health Science and the author of “Not For Long: The Life and Career of the NFL Athlete.” “The players have gotten a modicum of control, but it’s not enough,” Turner told me. “The players are starting to challenge the team doctors, and that’s great. But if the player and the team cannot agree, the player has to risk his salary to take medical action. “Culturally, the owners have always looked upon players as commodities.” The medical ethics are no less disheartening. Team doctors are paid by the team, and historically too many medical
[Marxism] a racist attack shows how whiteness evolves
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * For a clue on how American racial identity is evolving, it may be less useful to look to clues like complexion, and more to the performance of identity. The performance here — flinging around the N-word, with the befoulment of urination — holds an answer. One potent way of being American, no matter where you or your parents are from, is enacting anti-blackness. And traditionally, acting out anti-blackness has meant acting white. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/26/opinion/new-jersey-high-school-racism.html _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] ‘They are worse than Saddam’: Iraqis take to streets to topple regime | World news | The Guardian
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * When protests first began, grievances centred on corruption, the lack of jobs and basic services. But amid the government’s heavy-handed response, demands for a better life soon evolved into calls for the government to resign. While Iraq has seen regular anti-government protests, this round is unparalleled in its nationalist and anti-sectarian nature, with predominantly Shia demonstrators rejecting the entire Shia political and religious establishment, which they blame for the country’s dysfunction over the past 16 years. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/27/iraq-protests-aim-topple-regime _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] YPG & Assad: beyond "necessity"
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I agree with Chris that the SDF getting help from the US, or from Assad, when the areas where it has its base of support, especially Kurdish areas, are under attack, is not the same as the 'TFSA' taking part in Turkey's conquest operation in northeast Syria, or in Afrin. In the first case it is defensive of their own interests and those of their base; in the second case they are far from their base of support and essentially subordinate to Turkey's interests. Of course, that is not always the case. As I have continually pointed out, the SDF's conquest of Arab-majority, rebel-held northern Aleppo/Tal Rifaat region in early 2016, under air cover of the Russian airforce, was basically similar to what the 'TFSA' is doing now - conquest outside their base of support, expulsion of the local population, collaborating with an invading power which was already raining massive death on Syrians. Unfortunately, in that case, Chris and other Rojava supporters and SA members always justify or provide apologetics for this. This will be coming in Chris's next response. Yet it can hardly be avoided, because this action cut East Aleppo off from its hinterland which reached the Turkish border, making it easier for Assad to surround Aleppo (and the SDF also later aided the actual Assad conquest of Aleppo) and this is remembered by the rebels and their base. As I said, the opposite is the case at the moment. The problem however is the question of what the SDF may have given away, or agreed to do, to get this Assad "protection". There have been rumours that the SDF may have agreed to take part in Assad's offensive against Greater Idlib as quid pro quo. In that case, it would be doing the same as the 'TFSA' now, and we should of course wish for the defeat of any such sold-out 'Rojava' forces in that case. But for the moment, I will give the SDF the benefit of the doubt on that. (Ironically, if it were true, it may be quite similar to the quid pro quo that Turkey has no doubt agreed to for getting Putin's support for seizing 3000 square kilometres between Tal Abyad and Ras al-Ayn: that Assad be allowed to reconquer Greater Idlib from the rebels!) Unfortunately, there does appear to be more evidence that the info sent by John Reimann - of the SDF collaborating with Assad forces arresting anti-Assad protestors in (Arab-majority) Manbij, in which case it does go way "beyond necessity" and puts them back in the other position. According to Elizabeth Tsurkov reporting from the region: "Concerning developments in Arab-majority areas under SDF control as the regime seeks to return to these areas. The SDF is arresting activists organizing anti-regime not even anti SDF protests and strikes. Contacts told me the Asayish is searching phones for any pro-FSA content." 27-Video issued by what so-called the Internal Security Forces of Manbej Military Council showing confessions of 2 activists accused of organizing a strike to block entry of the regime into Manbej.The headline of the video is"MMC thwarts an attempt 2 harm the stability of Manbej" https://twitter.com/Elizrael/status/1188150113081929728?fbclid=IwAR3BR1MJ-Q9Ro3Vz8A1XQceeBFbTH1Sbyv2xMh9JW-L1H9wUAnX_r8fibr8 Tsurkov is no apologist for Turkey or the 'TFSA' (or for that matter for the FSA itself). She writes also in the same thread: "The Turkish-backed Syrian "National Army" enjoys almost 0 popular support anywhere & are seen as undisciplined marauders.[However] Civilians should not be arrested merely for having brothers in the ranks of the SNA. SDF fighters themselves often have relatives in the SNA." She also wrote this damning article about the Turkish invasion: https://forward.com/opinion/433095/oh-my-god-why-are-they-doing-this-northeastern-syrians-await-their-fate/ As I earlier wrote, my fears of what they SDF plans are were raised when Chris earlier sent that statement where they said that their new arrangement with Assad opened the doors to the "liberation" of Jarablus, al-Bab, Azaz, mare and Afrin. At least that statement specifically excluded Idlib. But, apart from Afrin, all four other cases would be support to Assadist conquest of rebel-held zones (as in Tal Rifaat), and "liberation only in the sense of what the 'TFSA' is doing now. Let's hope it was just Apoist bluster. On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:15 PM Chris Slee via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >
Re: [Marxism] New LGBA
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Exactly Phil. And so much pseudo science here being spread around. Save it for your kitty litter tray. The pseudo science goes nicely with the reactionary gender conformity imposed by the woke left these days. No comrades of mine. > On 27/10/19 6:02 pm, Philip Ferguson via Marxism wrote: >> POSTING RULES & NOTES >> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. >> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. >> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. >> * > So, first women aren't allowed to organise and now gay activist are > attacked for organising. > > The usual attacks have been made on members of the LGBA - trying to get gay > activists sacked, trying to prevent them using public facilities to > fundraise etc etc. > > Meanwhile the woke left goes along with the misogyny and homophobia, just > like they went along with Yaniv's racist and anti-immigrant misogyny. > Happily Yaniv lost his case. > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/me%40magnoliabloomberg.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] New LGBA
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * So, first women aren't allowed to organise and now gay activist are attacked for organising. The usual attacks have been made on members of the LGBA - trying to get gay activists sacked, trying to prevent them using public facilities to fundraise etc etc. Meanwhile the woke left goes along with the misogyny and homophobia, just like they went along with Yaniv's racist and anti-immigrant misogyny. Happily Yaniv lost his case. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
