Re: [Marxism] Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * At 23:43 23-08-15 +1000, Michael Karadjis via Marxism wrote: -Original Message- From: Clay Claiborne via Marxism (asking Luko): ARE YOU CLAIMING THIS STUFF ISN'T HAPPENING? Are you like Assad? What barrel-bombs? Are you one of those? I very much doubt Luko is like Assad, but yes he does appear to be one of those. Minor point, but I don't think Clay was asking if Luko was like Assad in multiple respects. But only whether he was, like Assad, denying the brutality of the regime. With a specific allusion to Assad's notorious interview with the BBC where he claimed to know nothing about any barrel bombs. So in that respect, I do agree that Luko seems to have become one of those, thus like Assad. But I'd like the discussion on this list to remain civil, and for Clay's charge not to be misinterpreted as saying something even more extreme about Luko. The fact that Luko is willing to ignore or deny what the Syrian ruling class is doing to maintain its power is bad enough. Or perhaps Luko would like to calmly respond and tell us how serious he thinks the regime's human rights abuses are, and how those might be justified. For the sake of argument, Luko, let's say that the target of Assad's air force were only ISIS. What justification would there be for the use of chemical weapons or dropping barrel bombs in populated areas? - Jeff _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Perhaps I wasn't clear but I certainly didn't mean to imply any across-the-board comparison when I wrote: ARE YOU CLAIMING THIS STUFF ISN'T HAPPENING? Are you like Assad? What barrel-bombs? Are you one of those? I meant, did he also deny Assad's campaign of Death from Above as Assad does, both Assad and many of his supporters on the Left deny that he even uses barrel-bombs. I have to conclude that not only is he an Assad supporter, he is functioning as an Assad propagandist on this list. Why did he feel compelled to post a response to my posting of the BILD piece if he had nothing of substance to say about the content of the article? Not one fact presented is disputed - and this is an indictment of mass murder - serious business. Instead he makes the outrageous claim everything published in BILD is false. How can that possibly be true? Even a broke clock is right twice a day. Assad needs outspoken supporters on the Left who Question More whenever evidence of his war crimes is presented, but this is not some intellectual game and those people have blood on their hands. Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/ http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Michael Karadjis mkarad...@gmail.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Clay Claiborne via Marxism (asking Luko): ARE YOU CLAIMING THIS STUFF ISN'T HAPPENING? Are you like Assad? What barrel-bombs? Are you one of those? I very much doubt Luko is like Assad, but yes he does appear to be one of those. That is, Luko is a Trotskyist who, through some kind of miraculous misuse of dogma, or self-deception, manages to convince himself that that means supporting a capitalist dictatorship that wages barbarous war against its working classes. This then leads to further miracles: someone who disagrees with his pro-ruling class view is then accused of ignoring class. All quite remarkable how we've ended up here. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Samstag, 22. August 2015 at 04:18, Clay Claiborne via Marxism wrote: Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria The BILD tabloid is to newspapers what Faux News is to TV news reporting: BILD (also better called BLÖD-Zeitung) can be relied on falsifying each and everything. http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2015/08/bildde-truth-about-assads-war-on-syria.html *ASSAD is worst than ISIS* This is one of those rare times when I see a piece on Syria that I think so important that I reprint it here at Linux Beach. Please visit the original location here http://www.bild.de/storytelling/topics/syrien/chemical-weapons-torture-mass-killings-the-thruth-about-assad-42183052.bild.html# to view the videos. That's the stinking well of foul propaganda where the partisans of the US worldwide war drive sip their truths from. Quite telling. Cheers, Lüko Willms _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Sometimes even FoX News tell the truth and their is supporting docs, video and witnesses for everything in this story. In fact, I reported most of these defector stories in my blog before bild. ARE YOU CLAIMING THIS STUFF ISN'T HAPPENING? Are you like Assad? What barrel-bombs? Are you one of those? Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/ http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Lüko Willms marxm...@lws-media.de wrote: On Samstag, 22. August 2015 at 04:18, Clay Claiborne via Marxism wrote: * Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria * The BILD tabloid is to newspapers what Faux News is to TV news reporting: BILD (also better called BLÖD-Zeitung) can be relied on falsifying each and everything. ** http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2015/08/bildde-truth-about-assads-war-on-syria.html * *ASSAD is worst than ISIS* This is one of those rare times when I see a piece on Syria that I think so important that I reprint it here at Linux Beach. Please visit the original location here * http://www.bild.de/storytelling/topics/syrien/chemical-weapons-torture-mass-killings-the-thruth-about-assad-42183052.bild.html# * to view the videos. * That's the stinking well of foul propaganda where the partisans of the US worldwide war drive sip their truths from. Quite telling. Cheers, Lüko Willms _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Republished by Linux Beach: Bild.de: The truth about Assad's war on Syria http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2015/08/bildde-truth-about-assads-war-on-syria.html *ASSAD is worst than ISIS* This is one of those rare times when I see a piece on Syria that I think so important that I reprint it here at Linux Beach. Please visit the original location here http://www.bild.de/storytelling/topics/syrien/chemical-weapons-torture-mass-killings-the-thruth-about-assad-42183052.bild.html# to view the videos. Who needs to read this? 1.) All those who think Bashar al-Assad should play any role in any future Syrian government. 2.) All who are trying to stop Syrians from immigrating away from this murderous government that the world has let run amok. A note on defector testimony: I know there are those who will say, bah, /What fool will believe a defector after Iraq?/ But personally, I believe Edward Snowden. They will say /But he's a Whistleblower./ That is most certainly true, but in as much as he is sitting in Moscow, it fair to call him a defector too. In anycase, some of the most revealing information can sometimes only come from those that flushed themselves out of the bowels of the corruption. Certainly, defector statements have to be scrutinized carefully but these are all backed by documentation, videos, and multiple layers of testimony. Sadly, this is what is really going on in Syria under Assad's rule. Republished from Bild.de http://www.bild.de/storytelling/topics/syrien/chemical-weapons-torture-mass-killings-the-thruth-about-assad-42183052.bild.html# Regime defectors reveal *“*They raped children right before their parent's eyes*”* *More...* http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2015/08/bildde-truth-about-assads-war-on-syria.html* * _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
