Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * A good companion piece to William's critique of the "solid south" is Thomas G. Dyer's "Secret Yankees", which examines a circle of pro-unionists in Atlanta during the civil war. On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Greg McDonaldwrote: > Both books come highly recommended. I do believe Williams is still at > Valdosta state. The latter book is cast as a history from below approach to > the Civil war. I will try to post some more examples in this vein. I just > need to pull a few down from my shelf. > > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Both books come highly recommended. I do believe Williams is still at Valdosta state. The latter book is cast as a history from below approach to the Civil war. I will try to post some more examples in this vein. I just need to pull a few down from my shelf. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * He has another book, Bitterly Divided: The South's Inner Civil War. http://m.accessatlanta.com/news/entertainment/calendar/q-a-david-williams-historian-author-civil-war-how-/nQxmg/ On Jun 25, 2016 6:18 PM, "Louis Proyect via Marxism" < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > As it turns out, I recommended the wrong book the other day that had "Rich > Man's War" in the title even though it was germane to the topic of refusing > to fight for the ruling class. Nelson Blackstock, who knows firsthand about > the lives of workers in the South, clarified that the book he referred me > to was about opposition to the Civil War, not WWI even though the class > dynamics were identical. He was talking about a book very much in the > spirit of "The Free State of Jones". > > > > In Rich Man's War historian David Williams focuses on the Civil War > experience of people in the Chattahoochee River Valley of Georgia and > Alabama to illustrate how the exploitation of enslaved blacks and poor > whites by a planter oligarchy generated overwhelming class conflict across > the South, eventually leading to Confederate defeat. > This conflict was so clearly highlighted by the perception that the Civil > War was "a rich man's war and a poor man's fight" that growing numbers of > oppressed whites and blacks openly rebelled against Confederate authority, > undermining the fight for independence. After the war, however, the upper > classes encouraged enmity between freedpeople and poor whites to prevent a > class revolution. Trapped by racism and poverty, the poor remained in > virtual economic slavery, still dominated by an almost unchanged planter > elite. > > > full: > https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Mans-War-Confederate-Chattahoochee/dp/0820320331 > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/fred.r.murphy%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: Rich Man's War: Class, Caste, and Confederate Defeat in the Lower Chattahoochee Valley: David Williams: 9780820320335: Amazon.com: Books
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * As it turns out, I recommended the wrong book the other day that had "Rich Man's War" in the title even though it was germane to the topic of refusing to fight for the ruling class. Nelson Blackstock, who knows firsthand about the lives of workers in the South, clarified that the book he referred me to was about opposition to the Civil War, not WWI even though the class dynamics were identical. He was talking about a book very much in the spirit of "The Free State of Jones". In Rich Man's War historian David Williams focuses on the Civil War experience of people in the Chattahoochee River Valley of Georgia and Alabama to illustrate how the exploitation of enslaved blacks and poor whites by a planter oligarchy generated overwhelming class conflict across the South, eventually leading to Confederate defeat. This conflict was so clearly highlighted by the perception that the Civil War was "a rich man's war and a poor man's fight" that growing numbers of oppressed whites and blacks openly rebelled against Confederate authority, undermining the fight for independence. After the war, however, the upper classes encouraged enmity between freedpeople and poor whites to prevent a class revolution. Trapped by racism and poverty, the poor remained in virtual economic slavery, still dominated by an almost unchanged planter elite. full: https://www.amazon.com/Rich-Mans-War-Confederate-Chattahoochee/dp/0820320331 _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com