Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The Chapo Dilemma | Souciant

2017-07-20 Thread Nick Fredman via Marxism
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I've been introduced to them recently and find the show quite funny,
sometimes insightful and even sometimes informative: recently Christman did
a show by himself and without jokes relayed the story of the Milwaukee SP
mayors and congressman from the 20s until the last SP mayor resigned in
1960, which I knew little about. I couldn't fault his conclusion that this
height of US socialist electoral success was more negative cooption than
positive reform because it wasn't grounded in revolutionary politics.
They've also had China Mieville and other interesting and serious guests.

But yeah while vulgarity and a certain level of obnoxiousness can be funny
and cathartic, this juvenile use of 'austistic' and 'retard' as insults is
highly grating (I say juvenile particularly as I recently busted our
eldest, 12-year-old child calling a virtual player who hadn't performed
adequately on FIFA17 'autistic' to the laughter of his visiting friend, and
I suspect it's a vogue slur among kids as 'gay' was a few years ago). As is
their casual use of 'bitch' and 'ironic' gender-based putdowns, including
by Amber Frost.

Autism as part of a spectrum of traits or maybe more accurately a
multi-dimensional map of neural typicality and atypicality is something
affecting increasing numbers of people. Partly that might be just
recognition from broader diagnoses but there might be factors leading to an
actual increase like the trend towards later parental age. Anyway a stupid
thing to joke about if your purported aim is to build a left that's both
radical and broad.

I've also from association with this lot listened to some of Katie Halper
recently, and her schtick seems along the same lines as a funny yet tough
hard leftist around the DSA, who represents numerous young and youngish
people currently radicalising, but maybe less obnoxious.


On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 at 9:50 am, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
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2017-07-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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