Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The tide turns against Political Marxism | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2014-10-14 Thread Einde O'Callaghan via Marxism

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On 13.10.2014 23:59, Louis Proyect wrote:

On 10/13/14 5:29 PM, Einde O'Callaghan via Marxism wrote:

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http://louisproyect.org/2014/10/12/the-tide-turns-against-political-marxism/ 





On your Facebook page, Louis, I've commented that you don't really
appear to be familiar with the theoretical tradition that the ISO and
ISR come from. Certainly in the publications of the British SWP there
has been a constant critique of Brenner and Political Marxism from its
early days. I posted a link to a transcript of a 2004 e3bqate between
Chris Harman and Robert Brenner: http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=219



Actually, Einde, now that I think about it since replying on FB, I am 
not sure that I accused the British SWP of Political Marxism--lots of 
other things obviously, but not that. If you saw evidence of that, 
please let me know. I might have slipped up.



I thought I'd replied to this but apparently it hasn't got through (or 
at least I can't find it anywhere) or maybe I accidentally sent it just 
to you, Louis.


I didn't mean to imply that you accused the SWP of political Marxism, 
Louis. I was just trying to point out that the theoretical tradition 
that the ISO and ISR come from has a long history of criticising and 
opposing the Brenner thesis and the political conclusions drawn from it.


In your 2004 piece you mention Harman's contribution (and link to an 
article by Harman criticising Brenner) but you don't actually say what 
Harman had to say. This isn't a criticism, since you were discussing 
Brenner specifically. I was just trying to jog your memory because of 
your remarks in your recent article.


Einde O'callaghan

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The tide turns against Political Marxism | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

2014-10-13 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 10/13/14 5:29 PM, Einde O'Callaghan via Marxism wrote:

full:
http://louisproyect.org/2014/10/12/the-tide-turns-against-political-marxism/



On your Facebook page, Louis, I've commented that you don't really
appear to be familiar with the theoretical tradition that the ISO and
ISR come from. Certainly in the publications of the British SWP there
has been a constant critique of Brenner and Political Marxism from its
early days. I posted a link to a transcript of a 2004 e3bqate between
Chris Harman and Robert Brenner: http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=219



Actually, Einde, now that I think about it since replying on FB, I am 
not sure that I accused the British SWP of Political Marxism--lots of 
other things obviously, but not that. If you saw evidence of that, 
please let me know. I might have slipped up.


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