Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Why the State Matters | Jacobin
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Christian Parenti's article kind of reminds me of this article: https://www.academia.edu/8316451/Ecologically_Dangerous_Patriotism Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant http://www.foxymath.com Learn or Review Basic Math -Original Message- From: Louis Proyect via Marxism Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 10:01 PM To: Jim Farmelant Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Why the State Matters | Jacobin POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Christian Parenti has some very odd ideas about the "developmental state" but this is still worth reading. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/10/developmentalism-neoliberalism-climate-change-hamilton/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/farmelantj%40juno.com hooch.net (Sponsored by Content.Ad) 14 Secrets MASH Producers Hid From Fans http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/57c389fd8d3319fc04e3st01duc _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Why the State Matters | Jacobin
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * This comment by the editors of Monthly Review criticizes Parenti's view of the state in the context of his reformist proposal on climate change. Parenti and others like Sam Gindin and Leo Panitch appear a bit naive on the nature of the modern capitalist state and the prospects for social democratic politics. http://monthlyreview.org/2014/04/01/reply-parenti/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Why the State Matters | Jacobin
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 8/25/16 9:45 AM, Andrew Pollack wrote: Glad he took a dig at localist "solutions." But - even though he mentioned the Bolshevik Revolution - he's not willing to go further than pressuring the state to rein in capital, and so does a huge disservice to the movement. Meanwhile what's the latest on the Native peoples taking on the state over that pipeline? NY Times Op-Ed, August 25 2016 Taking a Stand at Standing Rock By DAVID ARCHAMBAULT II Near Cannon Ball, N.D. — It is a spectacular sight: thousands of Indians camped on the banks of the Cannonball River, on the edge of the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation in North Dakota. Our elders of the Seven Council Fires, as the Oceti Sakowin, or Great Sioux Nation, is known, sit in deliberation and prayer, awaiting a federal court decision on whether construction of a $3.7 billion oil pipeline from the Bakken region to Southern Illinois will be halted. The Sioux tribes have come together to oppose this project, which was approved by the State of North Dakota and the United States Army Corps of Engineers. The nearly 1,200-mile pipeline, owned by a Texas oil company named Energy Transfer Partners, would snake across our treaty lands and through our ancestral burial grounds. Just a half-mile from our reservation boundary, the proposed route crosses the Missouri River, which provides drinking water for millions of Americans and irrigation water for thousands of acres of farming and ranching lands. Our tribe has opposed the Dakota Access pipeline since we first learned about it in 2014. Although federal law requires the Corps of Engineers to consult with the tribe about its sovereign interests, permits for the project were approved and construction began without meaningful consultation. The Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of the Interior and the National Advisory Council on Historic Preservation supported more protection of the tribe’s cultural heritage, but the Corps of Engineers and Energy Transfer Partners turned a blind eye to our rights. The first draft of the company’s assessment of the planned route through our treaty and ancestral lands did not even mention our tribe. The Dakota Access pipeline was fast-tracked from Day 1 using the Nationwide Permit No. 12 process, which grants exemption from environmental reviews required by the Clean Water Act and the National Environmental Policy Act by treating the pipeline as a series of small construction sites. And unlike the better-known Keystone XL project, which was finally canceled by the Obama administration last year, the Dakota Access project does not cross an international border — the condition that mandated the more rigorous federal assessment of the Keystone pipeline’s economic justification and environmental impacts. The Dakota Access route is only a few miles shorter than what was proposed for the Keystone project, yet the government’s environmental assessment addressed only the portion of the pipeline route that traverses federal land. Domestic projects of this magnitude should clearly be evaluated in their totality — but without closer scrutiny, the proposal breezed through the four state processes. Perhaps only in North Dakota, where oil tycoons wine and dine elected officials, and where the governor, Jack Dalrymple, serves as an adviser to the Trump campaign, would state and county governments act as the armed enforcement for corporate interests. In recent weeks, the state has militarized my reservation, with road blocks and license-plate checks, low-flying aircraft and racial profiling of Indians. The local sheriff and the pipeline company have both called our protest “unlawful,” and Gov. Dalrymple has declared a state of emergency. It’s a familiar story in Indian Country. This is the third time that the Sioux Nation’s lands and resources have been taken without regard for tribal interests. The Sioux peoples signed treaties in 1851 and 1868. The government broke them before the ink was dry. When the Army Corps of Engineers dammed the Missouri River in 1958, it took our riverfront forests, fruit orchards and most fertile farmland to create Lake Oahe. Now the Corps is taking our clean water and sacred places by approving this river crossing. Whether it’s gold from the Black Hills or hydropower from the Missouri or oil pipelines that threaten our ancestral inheritance, the tribes have always paid the price for America’s prosperity. Protecting water and our sacred places has always been at the center of our cause. The Indian encampment on the Cannonball grows daily, with nearly 90 tribes now
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Why the State Matters | Jacobin
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I agree with Andy, it's an interesting article and well worth reading. What Parenti does, and without using the term, is laying out a survey of *Bonapartist* political-economy over the last 250 years. However, what I find very valuable here is the understanding of the role of the State as a *prerequisite* for development as capitalism transformed into Imperialism. This article as a survey of industrial development under the many areas of the globe that have gone through this process is a direct affront to...the Libertarian's who believe that only unbridled, unregulated and form where the state buts out of development can work. The a-historical nature of the Libertarian economic program is slammed and destroyed by this article. Libertarianiam is exposed as a fantasy, at least historically, by the thesis Parenti develops here. While Parenti avoids the need for workers revolution and maybe in contradiction to what Andy's implies, the 'solutions' part of his article has a kind of "transitional" program of immediate demands, or perspectives, that flow from the arguments in the article. That is, "mitigating fossil fuel use" he suggests wisely, means using the power of the State, even under capitalism, to enforce other forms of energy. He notes "We need movements that, at least for now, seek to use state power to force capital into new patterns of investment and technological development." I'm for that in some ways. It makes political sense for a movement concerned about climate change, to push for this even if it's book ended by capitalist political economy. He does, perhaps, give to much legitimacy to the concept of the State's "autonomy" and doesn't realize the contradictions between what was in the ruling class' long term interests during the periods in countries he describes and today's speculative based Imperialist political economy. Because of this he doesn't go the necessary step further to suggest that implementing such a radical plan, Imperialism will simply remove that 'autonomy' the State has to insure it's present domination over nature for purposes of short term profit. Still, his description of how development occurred is very valuable. David Walters _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Why the State Matters | Jacobin
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Glad he took a dig at localist "solutions." But - even though he mentioned the Bolshevik Revolution - he's not willing to go further than pressuring the state to rein in capital, and so does a huge disservice to the movement. Meanwhile what's the latest on the Native peoples taking on the state over that pipeline? On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > Christian Parenti has some very odd ideas about the "developmental state" > but this is still worth reading. > > https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/10/developmentalism-neoliber > alism-climate-change-hamilton/ > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/opt > ions/marxism/acpollack2%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: Why the State Matters | Jacobin
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Christian Parenti has some very odd ideas about the "developmental state" but this is still worth reading. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/10/developmentalism-neoliberalism-climate-change-hamilton/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com