Re: [Marxism] Greek Student's election

2015-05-23 Thread ioannis aposperites via Marxism

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On 23/05/2015 04:52 πμ, Michael Karadjis wrote:

Interesting that Syriza ahs such low support on the campuses (less than
Pasok!). Though if we add together Syriza and Antarsya we're looking at
Syriza and Antarsya and other non-KKE left, it's around a quarter of the
vote. Any comments Ioannis on why Syriza is so weak on campuses?


The students movement used to play a significant role in greek politics 
back in the 70's and 80's because of its radicalization and the aureole 
of Polytechnic insurrection of 1973 ; suffice to say that New Democracy 
was then hardly present in elections. With the neoliberal turn of 90's 
the students movement began moving to the right and declining, yet 
student elections still make big titles in the newspapers.


Though i have not a first hand understanding of what is going on in 
campuses, for me, the interesting thing in those results is the PASP 
phenomenon, which, like the bad guy in the final scene of some Hollywood 
movies, just refuse to die!
Pasp used to have a dominant position for about 30 years in the campuses 
and they have established multiple client relations some of them are 
still at work, according to the youth of the FI's 
OKDE-Spartacos.(http://okde-youth.blogspot.gr/2015/05/blog-post.html)
They report the same thing about DAP(ND): DAP, they say, has an 
competent electoral mechanism,  distributes class notes for the exams, 
organizes parties and socializes the students, maintains client relations.


They fail to mention, that all these could have never occurred without 
the neoliberal exclusive university; the more anxious about their 
future, the more responsive to client practices the students are. But it 
is also the left to blame about.


The left wing organizations refuse of course to play that game of DAP 
and PASK. Yet they all have electoral gains. But given the gigantic 38% 
of DAP (while ND is on 15%) there is not much to expect.


But there is a further explanation for AREN's admittedly poor 
percentage, which, more generally, holds for the whole SYRIZA. During 
these few last memorandum years, since 2012, they were absent or 
restrained in the movements. SYRIZA's tactic favored moderate protests, 
if that was inevitable, but certainly not strikes, not confrontation, 
not vindications, that could allegedly disturb the electorate maturation 
as to concede parliamentary majority to the left. In line with that, as 
OKDE-Spartacos youth put it, AREN has abstained of any militant 
attitude in the campuses while unable to rally anyone moving in the 
interstices, supporting, even temporary, the [SYRIZA's] government.


It was AREN's  pathetic attitude that not only facilitated the corrosive 
tactic of DAP and PASP, but also made themselves look unreliable in the 
campuses, to the extend that they could not even pick their own 
government's supporters up!
On top of that, it was not only AREN who had such a pathetic 
attitude.The PKS(KKE) had the same attitude, but for a different reason. 
They wanted no confrontations, no students victories because they were 
afraid that THE MAIN ENEMY, namely SYRIZA, would be electorally 
favored, outgoing KKE! Pure third period, butter on DAP's bread.


Finally, the embarrassment of the students movement (along with the 
working class movement) including EAAK (and ANTARSYA) since January 
25th, has yet favored DAP's client politics. As long as students are 
just waiting for a legislative initiative by the government it is time 
for them to concentrate on exams and on DAP's helpful class notes.


JA
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Re: [Marxism] Greek Student's election

2015-05-22 Thread Michael Karadjis via Marxism

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Interesting that Syriza ahs such low support on the campuses (less than 
Pasok!). Though if we add together Syriza and Antarsya we're looking at 
Syriza and Antarsya and other non-KKE left, it's around a quarter of the 
vote. Any comments Ioannis on why Syriza is so weak on campuses?


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The results of the students' unions yearly election
participation 61233  60%  (-2134)

DIFFERENCE from 2014
DAP (NEW DEMOCRACY) 37.95% -0.22%
PKS (KKE) 19.62% 1.06%
EAAK(ANTARSYA) 14.35% 0.23%
PASP (PASOK) 10.22% -3.67%
AREN (SYRIZA) 7.50% 1.00%
KKE(M-L)(maoists) 0.93% -0.03%
OTHER RIGHT-WING 2.62% 1.11%
OTHER LEFT-WING 2.08% 0.38%
OTHER 2.57% -0.07%
WHITE VOTE 2.16% 0.21%

JA


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[Marxism] Greek Student's election

2015-05-22 Thread ioannis aposperites via Marxism

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The results of the students' unions yearly election
participation 61233  60%  (-2134)

DIFFERENCE from 2014
DAP (NEW DEMOCRACY) 37.95%  -0.22%
PKS (KKE)   19.62%  1.06%
EAAK(ANTARSYA)  14.35%  0.23%
PASP (PASOK)10.22%  -3.67%
AREN (SYRIZA)   7.50%   1.00%
KKE(M-L)(maoists)   0.93%   -0.03%
OTHER RIGHT-WING2.62%   1.11%
OTHER LEFT-WING 2.08%   0.38%
OTHER   2.57%   -0.07%
WHITE VOTE  2.16%   0.21%

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