Re: [Marxism] How To Think Clearly About Anti-Semitism Controversies In The Labour Party | Current Affairs

2019-02-05 Thread A.R. G via Marxism
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The running theme with most of these "critical thinking" pieces about
Labour anti-Semitism is that, whether they repeat the canard that Corbyn,
Livingstone, or others are anti-Semitic, the problem is them. Corbyn
shouldn't have spoken at this event or that event, that Livingstone
apparently should never speak at all, etc. etc.

And it's a complete crock of shit. The writer makes it appear that
anti-Semitism actually is pervasive in British society (it isn't) and that
Pal activists should be more careful about where they speak or what they
say, lest they somehow validate the creeping anti-Semitism. But not a
single one of the quotes from Livingstone actually evinces any
anti-Semitism (and in fact many are standard if not prerequisite views on
the Left), and there is no indication that any of the "anti-Semitism" at
the various events Corbyn spoke at were anything more than the kind of
standard angry rhetoric one hears at Leftist events or the kind of
chauvinist rhetoric one hears in every sensitive race-related topic. For
the author, who appears to be struggling with his own position in this
affair given how contradictory his views are, somehow the jeers about
anti-Semitism are fundamentally different and even things like being at the
same conference as elected Palestinian leaders like Khaled Meshaal are
things to do reluctantly.

In some ways these pieces are even worse than the standard garbage being
slung at Corbyn, because they appear to come from a place of support
despite having the same practical effect, which is to force Leftists and
Pal activists to aggressively police themselves and their own organizations
and create the same dangerous chilling effect using the spectre of
anti-Semitism.

Amith R. Gupta


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