Re: [Marxism] Jacobin editor urges voting for Clintony in swing states
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * The level of discussion with most of the young and inexperienced supporters of Bernie Sanders tends to be quite interesting and time spent listening and talking with them is always productive. It's the "experienced" and "mature" "theorists" who sound more like people arguing over their sports teams. One of my favorite habits among them is to label anyone not supporting Sanders as being "against Bernie." I'm coming out of this process with entirely deflated respect for many people who bloody well should know better. Worse, I have yet to see any real strategic thinking behind it at all, other than the faith that somehow--in complete opposition to the candidate's stated purpose--what they're doing will contribute to reconstituting a serious independent socialist movement. Like getting on a bus with "Denver" on the front and expecting it to fly you to Havana. I wish it would be more surprising that--contrary to everything most of them have been insisting for months--we're hearing the first sounds of their drumbeat for Hillary, which will accompany rabid denunciations of everyone who won't vote her as a "social fascist" ally of Trump and "the Republican War on Women." It's not original at all, but it's what passes for politics in the U.S. of A. Btw, this is why I've been saying that "Stalinism" has long been meaningless in an American context. Absolutely shitty lesser-evil policies is simply endemic to the American two-party system. Solidarity! Mark L. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Jacobin editor urges voting for Clintony in swing states
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Well, Michael, I can inagine circumstances in which I would pull the lever on the whole Clinton clan! comradely Gary On Monday, April 4, 2016, Michael Yates via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > This isn't surprising. What is surprising is why anyone would take Sankara's political pronouncements seriously. His resume is incredibly thin. A self-admitted hustler, successful in building Jacobin's subscriptions, which is to be applauded, given that the magazine publishes some decent pieces. But hustlers are always short on principles, and he is no exception. Who could actually pull that lever for Clinton? Under any circumstances. > > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary.maclennan1%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Jacobin editor urges voting for Clintony in swing states
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 4/3/16 9:40 PM, Michael Yates via Marxism wrote: This isn't surprising. What is surprising is why anyone would take Sankara's political pronouncements seriously. His resume is incredibly thin. A self-admitted hustler, successful in building Jacobin's subscriptions, which is to be applauded, given that the magazine publishes some decent pieces. But hustlers are always short on principles, and he is no exception. Who could actually pull that lever for Clinton? Under any circumstances. I probably should have mentioned that I learned about this on John Halle's timeline, who endorsed it. Halle was at one time very strong on the "lesser evil" question. I imagine that there is a lot of social pressure to adapt to the Democrats this year. If you printed out all the articles ventilating about Trump, they'd probably reach the planet Mars. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Jacobin editor urges voting for Clintony in swing states
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * This isn't surprising. What is surprising is why anyone would take Sankara's political pronouncements seriously. His resume is incredibly thin. A self-admitted hustler, successful in building Jacobin's subscriptions, which is to be applauded, given that the magazine publishes some decent pieces. But hustlers are always short on principles, and he is no exception. Who could actually pull that lever for Clinton? Under any circumstances. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
