Re: [Marxism] Leon Trotsky: Is It Possible to Fix a Definite Schedule for a Counter-Revolution or a Revolution? (September 1923)

2018-09-25 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 9/24/18 10:57 PM, Jon Flanders via Marxism wrote:

The same would hold for a revolution.


Except that Trotsky was in Russia, not in Germany. As will be apparent 
when I post the chapter in Angless on "Preparing for a Revolution", the 
CP's leader Brandler was not only absolutely opposed to the scheme but 
felt himself incapable of leading such a revolution. That's why the 1923 
revolution was stillborn and left the CP looking incompetent. In 
preparing notes introducing the Angress chapter, I will be investigating 
how Trotsky viewed the 1923 fiasco. My guess is that he did not take 
responsibility for his own poor judgement.

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Re: [Marxism] Leon Trotsky: Is It Possible to Fix a Definite Schedule for a Counter-Revolution or a Revolution? (September 1923)

2018-09-24 Thread Jon Flanders via Marxism

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On 09/24/2018 03:28 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote:

As it turns out, the article is online and truly misbegotten.

How so? I don't see any mention of the need to for the uprising in 
Germany to co-incide with the date of the October Revolution. What 
Trotsky argues for is the need for
a conscious decision when to strike. Which makes sense to me. Seizing 
power means actually seizing things. That has to be planned and 
organized. If a union decides to go
on strike, it has to be a very planned and timed affair. The same would 
hold for a revolution.


Jon Flanders

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[Marxism] Leon Trotsky: Is It Possible to Fix a Definite Schedule for a Counter-Revolution or a Revolution? (September 1923)

2018-09-24 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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I'll be scanning in another couple of chapters from Werner Angress's 
book on the German CP between 1921 to 1923 pretty soon. In reviewing the 
chapter on the preparations for the 1923 revolution, another fiasco, 
Angress mentions an article about Trotsky arguing for the need to set a 
date and one that coincides with the Russian Revolution. As it turns 
out, the article is online and truly misbegotten.


https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/fi/vol08/no07/trotsky.html
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