Re: [Marxism] Leonard Cohen Dead at 82

[Ethan Young via Marxism]

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Ethan Young  wrote:

> Friend Michael, sorry you hold a grudge about my criticism. We disagree on
> what's "faux left." The petition in question is to appoint Keith Ellison to
> head the DNC. Here are his bona fides; http://www.salon.com/2016/11/
> 11/who-is-keith-ellison-meet-the-muslim-american-who-
> bernie-sanders-wants-to-replace-dnc-chairwoman-donna-brazile/
> He's part of the left as much as you or me.
>
> And for the record, you didn't write 'principled critiques' of the Sanders
> campaign. You rejected it, and always for one reason. That may have been
> principled. I think it was also wrong, and in its small way, destructive.
> What would the MR founders have said and done? They held Bernie in high
> esteem. And they rarely took criticism personally, at least outside the
> realm of political economic theory.
>
> Yes, I'm pathetic. Read the news. We're all pathetic. Can we handle it, or
> do we have to hide in a bubble of self-righteousness?
> ethan young
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Re: [Marxism] Leonard Cohen Dead at 82

[Stuart Munckton via Marxism]

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Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich...

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied


Or, for darker prophesy, the Future:
Give me back my broken night
My mirrored room, my secret life
It's lonely here
There's no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
Over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby
That's an order!

Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
And stuff it up the hole
In your culture
Give me back the Berlin Wall
Give me back Stalin and St. Paul
I've seen the future, brother
It is murder

Things are going to slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard of the world
Has crossed the threshold
And it's overturned
The order of the soul

Or from the same album as the Futjure, the more optimistic "Democracy",
with the lines:
>From the fires of the homeless
>From the ashes of the gay
Democracy is coming to the USA

Note the tense. An optimistic statement democracy is *coming*.

On 12 November 2016 at 02:20, Michael Yates via Marxism <
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> Here is a Leonard Cohen song I like a lot. Everybody Knows. "Everybody
> knows that the dice are loaded." Except, I suppose those faux leftists who
> continue to trod the lesser-evil path. One Ethan Young, who has been
> berating me for many months over my principled critiques of the Sanders'
> campaign, is now urging everyone to sign a petition urging the appointment
> of someone or other to head the Democratic National Committee. All that
> cultural capital he came into the world with, and he wastes his time doing
> this. Just pathetic.
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg
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[Marxism] Leonard Cohen Dead at 82

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Here is a Leonard Cohen song I like a lot. Everybody Knows. "Everybody knows 
that the dice are loaded." Except, I suppose those faux leftists who continue 
to trod the lesser-evil path. One Ethan Young, who has been berating me for 
many months over my principled critiques of the Sanders' campaign, is now 
urging everyone to sign a petition urging the appointment of someone or other 
to head the Democratic National Committee. All that cultural capital he came 
into the world with, and he wastes his time doing this. Just pathetic.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg

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