[Marxism] Syriza CC rejects deal?

2015-07-15 Thread Marv Gandall via Marxism
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There is a report on the Guardian’s live blog that 107 of 201 Syriza central 
committee members have condemned the deal signed by the Tsipras government. Any 
confirmation of this elsewhere?
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Re: [Marxism] Syriza CC rejects deal?

2015-07-15 Thread Dayne Goodwin via Marxism
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You probably saw the later messages from Einde and David (which i just
read).  There is a report at Socialist Worker
http://socialistworker.org/2015/07/15/syriza-leaders-against-the-coup

As you probably know, this is a sign-on type statement, not a vote at a
meeting.  They are demanding the convening of a Central Committee meeting.
Tsipras had promised he would take the new deal to Central Committee before
taking it to parliament but he is reneging now that he can't be sure of
winning Central Committee.  This is very important because apparently it is
Syriza stricture (not governmental) that requires resignations from gov't
positions when individuals defy party positions.  This action raises the
question that Tsipras' position is not the Syriza/party position.




On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Marv Gandall via Marxism 
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote:


 There is a report on the Guardian’s live blog that 107 of 201 Syriza
 central committee members have condemned the deal signed by the Tsipras
 government. Any confirmation of this elsewhere?

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Re: [Marxism] Syriza CC rejects deal?

2015-07-15 Thread Marv Gandall via Marxism
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On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Dayne Goodwin daynegood...@gmail.com wrote:

 You probably saw the later messages from Einde and David (which i just read). 
  There is a report at Socialist Worker 
 http://socialistworker.org/2015/07/15/syriza-leaders-against-the-coup
 
 As you probably know, this is a sign-on type statement, not a vote at a 
 meeting.  They are demanding the convening of a Central Committee meeting. 
 Tsipras had promised he would take the new deal to Central Committee before 
 taking it to parliament but he is reneging now that he can't be sure of 
 winning Central Committee.  This is very important because apparently it is 
 Syriza stricture (not governmental) that requires resignations from gov't 
 positions when individuals defy party positions.  This action raises the 
 question that Tsipras' position is not the Syriza/party position.
 
 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Marv Gandall via Marxism 
 marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote:
 
 There is a report on the Guardian’s live blog that 107 of 201 Syriza central 
 committee members have condemned the deal signed by the Tsipras government. 
 Any confirmation of this elsewhere?

Isn’t the logical outcome of these internal party tensions the expulsion or 
departure of the Syriza left and the formation of a coalition between Tsipras 
and the rest of the Syriza leadership with some combination of To Potami, New 
Democracy, and Pasok = before or after a general election? 

It’s impossible to believe the Tsipras leadership wasn’t anticipating this 
outcome when it struck the deal with the eurozone - in fact, the day after the 
referendum when it issued that joint statement with the opposition, or even 
well before that. 

If the Tsipras faction thinks the left is an annoying encumbrance and that they 
can carry most of the party cadre and - more important from their POV, the 
country - with them in the next election, they won’t be too bothered about 
whether their current actions are in conflict with the formal party program, 
wouldn’t you think?


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