Re: [Marxism] West Signals U-Turn Over Syria, Seeks Dialogue With Russia

[Clay Claiborne via Marxism]

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Well, its either "U-Turns all the way" or "I guess the critical-syria gang
was right all along and we were wrong", so "U-turn" it is.

The beauty of that play it they no longer have to prove Obama was ever
going in the direction they said he was going, they just have to prove he's
not going in the direction they said he was going before and now reality is
their friend  - hence "U-Turn." I'm thinking about re-issuing my 2012
"Barack Obama's courtship of Bashar al-Assad" with the title "Obama Syria
U-Turn traced back to 2008!"

These people remind me of a guy a met on the Coastal Starlight on my way to
the US Social Forum in San Jose. Its one of those trains that has lounge
seats that face each other. Well, this guy gets up from a north facing seat
and when he comes back a few minutes later, he sits in a south facing seat.
Then he turns to me and asks "Did this train just make a U-turn while I was
in the john?"

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On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Michael Karadjis <mkarad...@gmail.com>
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> Ha, exactly. Funny thing about 'u-turn' headlines regarding US Syria
> policy is that there have probably been so many of them over the last 2
> years, since the pull-back from the imaginary threat to strike Assad after
> his sarin attack. All in the same direction. A very long 'u'. Come to think
> of it, the same direction since 2011.
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> What they mean is that Obama has been like one of these cars that drives
> blindly down the road with its left-turn signal just blinking away, and now
> he's turned it off. No change in direction was involved.
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> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
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>> On 9/18/15 11:10 AM, Fred Murphy via Marxism wrote:
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>>>
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>>> http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150918/1027191591/West-Syria-Assad-dialogue-Russia.html
>>>
>>>
>> "Ironically, after years of bitter acrimony against Assad, the West is now
>> poised to offer assistance to him in an effort to pick up the fight
>> against
>> ISIL."
>>
>> God knows how that acrimony can hang you up the most. I am sure it kept
>> Bashar al-Assad up late at night pacing the bedroom floor saying "When
>> will
>> this terrible acrimony stop? I can't take another Nicholas Kristof op-ed
>> piece."
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Re: [Marxism] West Signals U-Turn Over Syria, Seeks Dialogue With Russia

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Ha, exactly. Funny thing about 'u-turn' headlines regarding US Syria 
policy is that there have probably been so many of them over the last 2 
years, since the pull-back from the imaginary threat to strike Assad 
after his sarin attack. All in the same direction. A very long 'u'. Come 
to think of it, the same direction since 2011.


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What they mean is that Obama has been like one of these cars that drives
blindly down the road with its left-turn signal just blinking away, and 
now

he's turned it off. No change in direction was involved.

Clay Claiborne, Director
Vietnam: American Holocaust <http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com>
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On 9/18/15 11:10 AM, Fred Murphy via Marxism wrote:




http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150918/1027191591/West-Syria-Assad-dialogue-Russia.html



"Ironically, after years of bitter acrimony against Assad, the West is 
now
poised to offer assistance to him in an effort to pick up the fight 
against

ISIL."

God knows how that acrimony can hang you up the most. I am sure it 
kept
Bashar al-Assad up late at night pacing the bedroom floor saying "When 
will
this terrible acrimony stop? I can't take another Nicholas Kristof 
op-ed

piece."

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[Marxism] West Signals U-Turn Over Syria, Seeks Dialogue With Russia

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Re: [Marxism] West Signals U-Turn Over Syria, Seeks Dialogue With Russia

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What they mean is that Obama has been like one of these cars that drives
blindly down the road with its left-turn signal just blinking away, and now
he's turned it off. No change in direction was involved.

Clay Claiborne, Director
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>>
>>
>> http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150918/1027191591/West-Syria-Assad-dialogue-Russia.html
>>
>
> "Ironically, after years of bitter acrimony against Assad, the West is now
> poised to offer assistance to him in an effort to pick up the fight against
> ISIL."
>
> God knows how that acrimony can hang you up the most. I am sure it kept
> Bashar al-Assad up late at night pacing the bedroom floor saying "When will
> this terrible acrimony stop? I can't take another Nicholas Kristof op-ed
> piece."
>
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Re: [Marxism] West Signals U-Turn Over Syria, Seeks Dialogue With Russia

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On 9/18/15 11:10 AM, Fred Murphy via Marxism wrote:


http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150918/1027191591/West-Syria-Assad-dialogue-Russia.html


"Ironically, after years of bitter acrimony against Assad, the West is 
now poised to offer assistance to him in an effort to pick up the fight 
against ISIL."


God knows how that acrimony can hang you up the most. I am sure it kept 
Bashar al-Assad up late at night pacing the bedroom floor saying "When 
will this terrible acrimony stop? I can't take another Nicholas Kristof 
op-ed piece."

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