Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] the theory of the Communists may be summed upinthe singl...

2005-10-11 Thread Waistline2
V2: Right, but he reiterated these very same ideas in the preface of 
Contribution to Critique of Political Economy in 1859. 

 CB: Very same ? I'll have to read it again. 

Do you agree they are contradicted by the formulaions in the Communist 
Manifesto ? 

 


WL: Marx is fairly clear about his meaning in the Communist Manifesto and 
that is no contradiction between the theoretical concepts in the Manifesto and 
with his Preface. If there is then simply show it. Below is from the Communist 
Manifesto. 

(The sentences are numbered for clarity). 
1). We see then: the means of production and of exchange, on whose 
foundation the bourgeoisie built itself up, were generated in feudal society. 

2). At a certain stage in the development of these means of production and of 
exchange, the conditions under which feudal society produced and exchanged, 
the feudal organisation of agriculture and manufacturing industry, in one word, 
the feudal relations of property became no longer compatible with the already 
developed productive forces; they became so many fetters. 

3). They had to be burst asunder; they were burst asunder. 

4). Into their place stepped free competition, accompanied by a social and 
political constitution adapted in it, and the economic and political sway of 
the 
bourgeois class. 

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm 

You of course could enlighten us - me, on the contradiction between Marx 
theory concept in his Preface and the theory concept of the Communist Manifest. 
Now, such a contradiction would mean how Marx is in conflict with himself, 
rather than bourgeois philosophy and bourgeois political economy, and the unity 
and strife within this theory concept, rather than his form of exposition would 
be the field of discussion.  Marx form of exposition - according to him, is 
much different than his method of inquiry. 

Fettering is not so much a metaphor - for me, but a description of resistance 
one qualitative configuration of technology faces as it is added to an 
existing infrastructure tying together production. Anyone who has worked for 
several 
decades in an industrial facility intuitively understands that one cannot 
simply graft a computer onto an existing electromechanical process, without at 
the same time changing other physical aspects of the process itself. 

To burst asunder is a description of antagonistic development rather than 
development where each stage in the growth of the process expresses its partial 
resolution or non - antagonistic development. 

Everything in history is human beings but man does not make his history as he 
chooses. Or rather our choices are conditioned by factors - environment, that 
surround us and provides a context for the will of the individual as 
collective. There is also the environment within us as species and how we 
interactive 
with the environment outside us, but that is not the topic. 

What is burst asunder is the physical and material properties of objectified 
forms of labor or alienated labor, whose proprieties come into conflict in 
such a way that an existing form of labor requires partial destruction as the 
form of sublating. Then we are talking about this process impact upon not only 
how society is organized as a labor form but its property relations or 
ownership 
rights in the process of production. 

** 

CB: The forces of production that are not human can't act as subjects. The 
non-human forces of production do not develop themselves. The instruments of 
production can't burst asunder the relations between people. It has to be 
people who invent new instrument of production doing the bursting asunder. 

You've got to pick a group of people to be the subjects of any bursting 
asunder.  The groups of people who would be doing the bursting asunder would be 
who, as far as you are concerned ?

WL: The dialectic is not that the instruments of production . . . burst 
asunder the relations between people. First of all Marx never talks about 
abstract people or abstract instruments or abstract relations. What Marx writes 
is 
clear: At a certain stage in the development of . . . means of production and 
of exchange, the conditions under which . . . society produced and exchanged, . 
. . became no longer compatible with the already developed productive forces; 
they became so many fetters. 

WIthout question our gray matter - people, are the revolutionary and 
insurrectionary ingredient in history, but this explains nothing. You seem to 
consistently confuse the insurrectionary movement of political groups (Lenin's 
Bolsheviks for instance) expressing social groups founded on and embodying 
class 
relations with the revolutionary changes in the means of production. 

There is also always correspondence between a given state of development of 
the productive forces and how people are organized or grouped together to use 
this given state of production. 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] the theory of the Communists may be summed upinthe singl...

2005-10-11 Thread Waistline2
V: Marx's most negative discourse on private property are found in his 
earlier 
works (most unpublished until recent times).  The Manifesto itself is hardly 
an analysis but, rather, an emotional a call for action at the very heights 
of the Europe-wide rebellions of 1848. Finally, the fact that Plekhanov and 
Labriola as well as Lenin all regarded the forces of production as the 
prerequisites of social organization of 
production must be worth some consideration in your argument.

**

WL: Revolution comes about as a result of the development of the means of 
production. An antagonism develops between the new emerging economic relations 
and the old, static political relations within the superstructure. This is the 
ABC of Marxism and the Holy Grail so to speak. How this takes place and play 
itself out in our daily lives is my approach to this current discussion. Yet, 
the general theory cannot be ignored. 

No society has been overthrown by the primary social or economic formation 
within the system, that makes a given social system what it is. This is because 
the unity of the primary class of a social system, cannot on the basis of 
their unity and strife, detach from one another, or magically break their 
connect 
as social production, and then appear in external collision to one another and 
then overthrow one of its antithetical components and stand along as the 
basis of a new social system. 

That is to say one side of the contradiction that is the basis classes of a 
social system doesn't become dominate and then is overthrown by the other 
side and then the other side begins a new path of development. 

The two primary class of a social system cannot overthrow the system of which 
they constitute. It simply cannot happen. The serf and Nobility did not, 
could not and did not desire to overthrow the feudal system and if some 
enlightened elements sought to do so, they could not. That is to say the serf 
did not 
desire to overthrow landed property or agricultural relations of which it 
constituted. The struggle for rights or political liberties and against the 
harshness of the Nobility could not magically leap to a struggle against the 
agrarian 
system on which the feudal system was founded. 

Something else has to develop within the womb of the society - new classes 
and new social forces expressing a new development in the means of production, 
to begin the decay of the existing system. Revolution comes about as a result 
of the development of the means of production. 

The struggle between those intimately connected to the means of production - 
in the feudal period this was between the serfs and the nobility - drove a 
qualitative stage of history (the feudal period) along its quantitative rails 
of 
development. The struggle between the serf and nobility did not end or for 
that matter begin the qualitative stage of history called feudalism. In other 
words, I think that Marx is absolutely correct that the struggle between the 
exploited and the exploiters has driven history through its various 
quantitative 
stages of development. Yet, during every historical period, in one way or 
another, a certain stage of development occurs, where changes in the means of 
production call forth new classes and new economic relations external to the 
life 
of the primary classes of the existing social system and a period of social 
revolution unfolds. 

The problem for Marxism in America is bound up with our own specific history 
and the formation of our industrial working class in the North. The general 
theory problem for world Marxism is rooted in the Russia Revolution and the 
formation of the Third International during the rising curve or ascendency of 
the 
industrial system. In America and much of the industrialized countries, what 
has generally passed for Marxism is a form of political syndicalism or what is 
nothing more than the ideology of workerism. 

The working class as a primary class at the basis of the industrial system 
and the bourgeois mode of production could not and did not overthrow the social 
system of which it constitutes because it could not even if it wanted to. The 
struggle between worker and capitalist drove this qualitative stage of history 
along quantitatively. That is to say the workers fight has been for expanded 
political liberties and more a larger share of the social products. 

Something else has to develop within the womb of the existing industrial 
society - new classes and new social forces expressing a new development in the 
means of production, to begin the decay of the existing system and make it 
possible to sublate - overthrow, its mode of production. Nevertheless communist 
and 
Marxist have stepped forward at every stage in the growth of the industrial 
system to engage the bourgeoisie in political contest as society passed from 
the agrarian system to the industrial system. 

Here is the dialectic we can no longer ignore. Here is the 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] the theory of the Communists proletarian and bourgeoisie

2005-10-11 Thread Waistline2
No society has been overthrown by the primary social or economic formation 
within the system, that makes a given social system what it is. This is because 
the unity of the primary class of a social system, cannot on the basis of 
their unity and strife, detach from one another, or magically break their 
connect 
as social production, and then appear in external collision to one another 
and then overthrow one of its antithetical components and stand along as the 
basis of a new social system. 

I wrote this well aware that this proposition is very different from the 
theory concept of revolution of the period of the Third International and the 
body 
of politics flowing through and around the various theories of the CPUSA in 
our history. 

It is a misconception to see in the Russian Revolution (October 1917) the 
overthrow of the system of feudalism by the serf and the bourgeoisie, as stated 
earlier by Comrade CB. It is true that over 100 million serfs, semi-serfs and 
slaves in what today we call the Moslem areas, were in rebellion but the 
rebellion has a material context and what happened was what ever textbook in 
the 
world calls the industrial revolution or the rise and ascendency of the 
bourgeois mode of production. 

The bourgeois mode of production is founded on the unity of bourgeoisie and 
proletariat. Hence it is inaccurate to state that the serf and bourgeoisie 
overthrow feudal Russian society. Further, the insurrection was carried out of 
Lenin and his Bolsheviks and they were communists. 

The fedual world order is overthrown on the basis of the advance of the 
productive forces and the two new classes created by the new productive forces 
- 
bourgeoisie and proletarians. 

The bourgeoisie is connected - interactive, with the proletariat, the 
proletariat interactive with the bourgeoisie as the unity at the base of the 
bourgeois mode of production, which since Marx has been called the capitalist 
system 
of production. The mutual connectedness (interactivity) and mutal conditioning 
of these two aspects of our system of production - bourgeoisie and 
proletatiat, arise on the basis of changes in the mode of production or the 
technological 
revolution that calls forth new instruments, means and energy source by which 
labor is put to work. 

The process of production reveals and is the connection between bourgeoisie 
and proletariat as first owner/worker (Bourgeoisie) and nonowner/worker 
(proletariat). Within this contradictory unity is the extreme that is pure 
bourgeoisie and pure worker but also all kinds of variations with partial 
owners, 
partial workers, non workers, doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. 

The process of production in bourgeois society is simultaneously an 
aggregation of bourgeois production/property relations (for example the 
relations 
between bourgeoisie as owners and workers as nonowners) AND an aggregation of 
productive forces (The labor of the workers as species human connected to and 
in 
correspondence to a given state of development of the means of production and 
its use). 

Development from manufacture - meaning hand in the strict sense, to machine 
production is not only a change of productive forces, a qualitative change in 
tools and motive power or energy source, but a development and spread of new 
production relations, because the way that people are connected with one 
another 
in the process of production undergoes change. 

The union of the labor of the workers and/with the means of production is 
simultaneously a connection - interactivity, of productive forces and a 
connection of people in the process of production, which together make up the 
meaning 
of the word relations. Relations also means the relations between the workers 
in the process of production and not simply their relationship with property 
as owners and non owners or as it has always been called, the haves and 
have nots. 

The division of labor in manufacture - which Marx and Engels talk about in 
detail, is a relation in/as/of production and emerges as a productive force 
because we are always talking about human beings and the artifacts they build 
outside their bodies. That is things, or objectified labor or alienated 
labor,  

Production relations, as described above, are the laws defining property and 
the relationship of people to property in the process of production. What is 
described above is the appearance form of the mutual penetrations of opposites 
as bourgeoisie and proletariat at the basis of a social system of production. 
On the basis of this mutual penetration of opposites, that is bourgeoisie and 
proletariat in/as the process of production, the process of ever intensifying 
contradictions between bourgeoisie and proletariat develops. 

This has been the most general and standard Marxist description of the 
bourgeois system of production. What this general description lacks is a 
concrete 
analysis of this movement as antagonism. Stated another way, 

[Marxism-Thaxis] HISTORICAL TENDENCY OF CAPITALIST ACCUMULATION

2005-10-11 Thread Charles Brown

CHAPTER THIRTY-TWO:
HISTORICAL TENDENCY OF CAPITALIST ACCUMULATION 




 

What does the primitive accumulation of capital, i.e., its historical
genesis, resolve itself into? In so far as it is not immediate
transformation of slaves and serfs into wage-laborers, and therefore a mere
change of form, it only means the expropriation of the immediate producers,
i.e., the dissolution of private property based on the labor of its owner.
Private property, as the antithesis to social, collective property, exists
only where the means of labor and the external conditions of labor belong to
private individuals. But according as these private individuals are laborers
or not laborers, private property has a different character. The numberless
shades, that it at first sight presents, correspond to the intermediate
stages lying between these two extremes. The private property of the laborer
in his means of production is the foundation of petty industry, whether
agricultural, manufacturing, or both; petty industry, again, is an essential
condition for the development of social production and of the free
individuality of the laborer himself. Of course, this petty mode of
production exists also under slavery, serfdom, and other states of
dependence. But it flourishes, it lets loose its whole energy, it attains
its adequate classical form, only where the laborer is the private owner of
his own means of labor set in action by himself: the peasant of the land
which he cultivates, the artisan of the tool which he handles as a virtuoso.
This mode of production pre-supposes parcelling of the soil and scattering
of the other means of production. As it excludes the concentration of these
means of production, so also it excludes co-operation, division of labor
within each separate process of production, the control over, and the
productive application of the forces of Nature by society, and the free
development of the social productive powers. It is compatible only with a
system of production, and a society, moving within narrow and more or less
primitive bounds. To perpetuate it would be, as Pecqueur rightly says, to
decree universal mediocrity. At a certain stage of development, it brings
forth the material agencies for its own dissolution. From that moment new
forces and new passions spring up in the bosom of society; but the old
social organization fetters them and keeps them down. It must be
annihilated; it is annihilated. Its annihilation, the transformation of the
individualized and scattered means of production into socially concentrated
ones, of the pigmy property of the many into the huge property of the few,
the expropriation of the great mass of the people from the soil, from the
means of subsistence, and from the means of labor, this fearful and painful
expropriation of the mass of the people forms the prelude to the history of
capital. It comprises a series of forcible methods, of which we have passed
in review only those that have been epoch-making as methods of the primitive
accumulation of capital. The expropriation of the immediate producers was
accomplished with merciless Vandalism, and under the stimulus of passions
the most infamous, the most sordid, the pettiest, the most meanly odious.
Self-earned private property, that is based, so to say, on the fusing
together of the isolated, independent laboring-individual with the
conditions of his labor, is supplanted by capitalistic private property,
which rests on exploitation of the nominally free labor of others, i.e., on
wage-labor. [1]
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch32.htm#n1  

 As soon as this process of transformation has sufficiently decomposed the
old society from top to bottom, as soon as the laborers are turned into
proletarians, their means of labor into capital, as soon as the capitalist
mode of production stands on its own feet, then the further socialization of
labor and further transformation of the land and other means of production
into socially exploited and, therefore, common means of production, as well
as the further expropriation of private proprietors, takes a new form. That
which is now to be expropriated is no longer the laborer working for
himself, but the capitalist exploiting many laborers. This expropriation is
accomplished by the action of the immanent laws of capitalistic production
itself, by the centralization of capital. One capitalist always kills many.
Hand in hand with this centralization, or this expropriation of many
capitalists by few, develop, on an ever-extending scale, the co-operative
form of the labor-process, the conscious technical application of science,
the methodical cultivation of the soil, the transformation of the
instruments of labor into instruments of labor only usable in common, the
economizing of all means of production by their use as means of production
of combined, socialized labor, the entanglement of all peoples in the net of
the world-market, and 

[Marxism-Thaxis] The expropriators are expropriated

2005-10-11 Thread Charles Brown
 
Here's the fettering and burst asunder metaphor in its public ,
publication form.

CB

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The monopoly of capital becomes a fetter upon the mode of
production, which has sprung up and flourished along with, and under
it.Centralization of the means of production and socialization of labor at
last reach a point where they become incompatible with their capitalist
integument. Thus integument is burst asunder. The knell of capitalist
private property sounds. The expropriators are expropriated. 



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