[Marxism-Thaxis] Catholic Church admits fallibility of Bible!

2005-10-07 Thread Charles Brown

But not of the Pope ?

CB



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html


Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible

By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has
published a teaching document instructing the faithful
that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.

The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland
are warning their five million worshippers, as well as
any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they
should not expect “total accuracy” from the Bible.



“We should not expect to find in Scripture full
scientific accuracy or complete historical precision,”
they say in The Gift of Scripture.

The document is timely, coming as it does amid the
rise of the religious Right, in particular in the US.

Some Christians want a literal interpretation of the
story of creation, as told in Genesis, taught
alongside Darwin’s theory of evolution in schools,
believing “intelligent design” to be an equally
plausible theory of how the world began.

But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two
different and at times conflicting stories of creation
are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic
bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they
say, they may contain “historical traces”.

The document shows how far the Catholic Church has
come since the 17th century, when Galileo was
condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal
belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by
advocating the Copernican view of the solar system.
Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist
Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical
methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible.

In the document, the bishops acknowledge their debt to
biblical scholars. They say the Bible must be
approached in the knowledge that it is “God’s word
expressed in human language” and that proper
acknowledgement should be given both to the word of
God and its human dimensions.

They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways
“appropriate to changing times, intelligible and
attractive to our contemporaries”.

The Bible is true in passages relating to human
salvation, they say, but continue: “We should not
expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular
matters.”

They go on to condemn fundamentalism for its
“intransigent intolerance” and to warn of “significant
dangers” involved in a fundamentalist approach.

“Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when
people of one nation or group see in the Bible a
mandate for their own superiority, and even consider
themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence
against others.”

Of the notorious anti-Jewish curse in Matthew 27:25,
“His blood be on us and on our children”, a passage
used to justify centuries of anti-Semitism, the
bishops say these and other words must never be used
again as a pretext to treat Jewish people with
contempt. Describing this passage as an example of
dramatic exaggeration, the bishops say they have had
“tragic consequences” in encouraging hatred and
persecution. “The attitudes and language of
first-century quarrels between Jews and Jewish
Christians should never again be emulated in relations
between Jews and Christians.”

As examples of passages not to be taken literally, the
bishops cite the early chapters of Genesis, comparing
them with early creation legends from other cultures,
especially from the ancient East. The bishops say it
is clear that the primary purpose of these chapters
was to provide religious teaching and that they could
not be described as historical writing.

Similarly, they refute the apocalyptic prophecies of
Revelation, the last book of the Christian Bible, in
which the writer describes the work of the risen
Jesus, the death of the Beast and the wedding feast of
Christ the Lamb.

The bishops say: “Such symbolic language must be
respected for what it is, and is not to be interpreted
literally. We should not expect to discover in this
book details about the end of the world, about how
many will be saved and about when the end will come.”

In their foreword to the teaching document, the two
most senior Catholics of the land, Cardinal Cormac
Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, and
Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Archbishop of St Andrew’s and
Edinburgh, explain its context.

They say people today are searching for what is
worthwhile, what has real value, what can be trusted
and what is really true.

The new teaching has been issued as part of the 40th
anniversary celebrations of Dei Verbum, the Second
Vatican Council document explaining the place of
Scripture in revelation. In the past 40 years,
Catholics have learnt more than ever before to cherish
the Bible. “We have rediscovered the Bible as a
precious treasure, both ancient and ever new.”

A Christian charity is sending a film about the
Christmas story to every primary school in Britain
after hearing of a young boy who asked his teacher why
Mary and Joseph had named 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Catholic Church admits fallibility of Bible!

2005-10-07 Thread Paddy Hackett

I have been reading the the Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown. So far it is making 
for a good read. It is also interesting. Anybody have any views on the 
novel.

Paddy Hackett

Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible

By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent

THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has
published a teaching document instructing the faithful
that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.




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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Catholic Church admits fallibility of Bible!

2005-10-07 Thread Jim Farmelant


As the discussions of this article on Marxmail and LBO-Talk
pointed out, none of this really very new.  In fact
one of the defining issues in the Protestant Reformation
was the insistence by many Protestants that it was
the Bible, taken literally, that ought to be the authority
on religious issues as opposed to the Catholic
insistence that authority concerning religious
teachings is shared between Holy Scripture
and the traditions of the Church, with the
Vatican having the power to decide what teachings
were to be accepted and which to be rejected.
The Catholic Church has never insisted upon
biblical literalism, holding to the contrary that
many parts of the Bible have to be taken metaphorically.
Over the years, the Catholic Church has had much
less trouble with Darwinism than have Protestant
fundamentalists. The Church is quite willing to live with
the idea that humans may have evolved from apes,
provided that one believes that God intervened to
give these primates immortal souls.

Years ago, Pope Pius XII issued a statement that
said that evolution was compatible with Catholicism,
but stopping short of fully endorsing neo-Darwinism,
on the grounds that it could be interpreted as excluding
divine teleology from our understanding of creation.
The last pontiff, John Paul II, went further in endorsing
the compatibility of neo-Darwinism with Catholicism
but warning against those who would interpret
neo-Darwinism as supporting an atheistic materialism
(presumably, the Pope had people like Richard
Dawkins in mind).

On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 08:28:02 -0400 Charles Brown
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 But not of the Pope ?
 
 CB
 
 
 
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html
 
 
 Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
 
 By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
 


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