Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-04-26 Thread Nicolas P. Rougier

Great ! Thanks for setting this up. One comment, it would be great to have a 
README.rst in the directory to have abstract of all MEPS at once in github (I 
can make a PR).


I've started working on MEP28 
(https://github.com/rougier/matplotlib/blob/MEP28/doc/devel/MEP/MEP28.rst). I 
intend to make a PR once it is a bit more polished or should I make a PR right 
now to initiate the discussion on the PR ? (It is not clear to me if the 
preferred medium for discussion is the mailing list or the PR comments).


Nicolas

 On 25 Apr 2015, at 23:04, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The MEP tree has been moved into the main repo 
 https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/tree/master/doc/devel/MEP
 
 I am pretty excited about this feature.
 
 I don't remember if this got mentioned upthread, but this ties in with 
 https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/1109 as a nice way to set up 
 all of the constraints.
 
 Tom
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:10 PM Nicolas P. Rougier nicolas.roug...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 Ok. I'll wait for the MEP directory to start writing a proposal.
 Here is a flavor of what I think could be done (to be seen using a fixed 
 width font):
 
 
 AB:
 ┌┐┌┐
 │ A  ││ B  │
 ││││
 ││││
 └┘└┘
 
 ABB:
 ┌──┐┌──┐
 │ A││ B│
 │  ││  │
 │  ││  │
 └──┘└──┘
 
 ABD
 CCD:
 ┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐
 │ A ││ B ││ D │
 │   ││   ││   │
 │   ││   ││   │
 └───┘└───┘│   │
 ┌┐│   │
 │ C  ││   │
 │││   │
 └┘└───┘
 
 AaBb:
 ┌───┐┌─┐┌───┐┌─┐
 │ A ││ ││ B ││ │
 │   ││ ││   ││ │
 │   ││ ││   ││ │
 └───┘└─┘└───┘└─┘
 
   b  
 aABCc:
 ┌───┐
 └───┘
 ┌─┐┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐┌─┐
 │ ││ A ││ B ││ C ││ │
 │ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
 │ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
 └─┘└───┘└───┘└───┘└─┘
 
 
 
 
 On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:34, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
 two problems with that: 1) that really doesn't make me want to use this 
 approach, especially since I wouldn't know what ratios I would want in the 
 first place. 2) it can't tell if I want a horizontal or vertical colorbar, 
 whereas the lower-case notation could have some logic to auto-detect the 
 user's intent (e.g., all lower-case letters in the last row indicates 
 horizontal bars). It would also allow us to return the plotting axes 
 separate from the colorbar axes, which is how axes_grid1 does it, and it is 
 very nice that way.
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
 
 I think you could specify colorbars using: [AB]
 (B is a vertical colorbar, 1/10 of total width)
 
 Nicolas
 
 
 
  On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:52, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
 
  On 2015/03/18 7:42 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
  A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
  in the layout?
 
  A lower-case letter could indicate a colorbar-size Axes:
 
  layout = [ABc,
DE ,
ff ]
 
  would put a vertical think axes to the right of B, and a double-wide
  hoizontal one below D and E.
 
  All of this seems like an alternative API for gridspec and axes_grid1.
 
  I am concerned about ending up with too many ways to do things, but with
  subtle differences.
 
  How much control over spacing and sizing would be provided by kwargs or
  other adjustment mechanisms?  How would this relate to subplot_params?
 
  Eric
 
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-04-26 Thread Thomas Caswell
I am in favor of doing in in PR comments so we can to line comments.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:47 AM Nicolas P. Rougier nicolas.roug...@inria.fr
wrote:


 Great ! Thanks for setting this up. One comment, it would be great to have
 a README.rst in the directory to have abstract of all MEPS at once in
 github (I can make a PR).


 I've started working on MEP28 (
 https://github.com/rougier/matplotlib/blob/MEP28/doc/devel/MEP/MEP28.rst).
 I intend to make a PR once it is a bit more polished or should I make a PR
 right now to initiate the discussion on the PR ? (It is not clear to me if
 the preferred medium for discussion is the mailing list or the PR comments).


 Nicolas

  On 25 Apr 2015, at 23:04, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The MEP tree has been moved into the main repo
 https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/tree/master/doc/devel/MEP
 
  I am pretty excited about this feature.
 
  I don't remember if this got mentioned upthread, but this ties in with
 https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/1109 as a nice way to set
 up all of the constraints.
 
  Tom
 
  On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:10 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
  Ok. I'll wait for the MEP directory to start writing a proposal.
  Here is a flavor of what I think could be done (to be seen using a fixed
 width font):
 
 
  AB:
  ┌┐┌┐
  │ A  ││ B  │
  ││││
  ││││
  └┘└┘
 
  ABB:
  ┌──┐┌──┐
  │ A││ B│
  │  ││  │
  │  ││  │
  └──┘└──┘
 
  ABD
  CCD:
  ┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐
  │ A ││ B ││ D │
  │   ││   ││   │
  │   ││   ││   │
  └───┘└───┘│   │
  ┌┐│   │
  │ C  ││   │
  │││   │
  └┘└───┘
 
  AaBb:
  ┌───┐┌─┐┌───┐┌─┐
  │ A ││ ││ B ││ │
  │   ││ ││   ││ │
  │   ││ ││   ││ │
  └───┘└─┘└───┘└─┘
 
b  
  aABCc:
  ┌───┐
  └───┘
  ┌─┐┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐┌─┐
  │ ││ A ││ B ││ C ││ │
  │ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
  │ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
  └─┘└───┘└───┘└───┘└─┘
 
 
 
 
  On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:34, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
  two problems with that: 1) that really doesn't make me want to use this
 approach, especially since I wouldn't know what ratios I would want in the
 first place. 2) it can't tell if I want a horizontal or vertical colorbar,
 whereas the lower-case notation could have some logic to auto-detect the
 user's intent (e.g., all lower-case letters in the last row indicates
 horizontal bars). It would also allow us to return the plotting axes
 separate from the colorbar axes, which is how axes_grid1 does it, and it is
 very nice that way.
 
  On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
 
  I think you could specify colorbars using: [AB]
  (B is a vertical colorbar, 1/10 of total width)
 
  Nicolas
 
 
 
   On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:52, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
  
   On 2015/03/18 7:42 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
   A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify
 colorbars
   in the layout?
  
   A lower-case letter could indicate a colorbar-size Axes:
  
   layout = [ABc,
 DE ,
 ff ]
  
   would put a vertical think axes to the right of B, and a double-wide
   hoizontal one below D and E.
  
   All of this seems like an alternative API for gridspec and axes_grid1.
  
   I am concerned about ending up with too many ways to do things, but
 with
   subtle differences.
  
   How much control over spacing and sizing would be provided by kwargs
 or
   other adjustment mechanisms?  How would this relate to subplot_params?
  
   Eric
  
  
  
  
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-04-25 Thread Thomas Caswell
The MEP tree has been moved into the main repo
https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/tree/master/doc/devel/MEP

I am pretty excited about this feature.

I don't remember if this got mentioned upthread, but this ties in with
https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/issues/1109 as a nice way to set
up all of the constraints.

Tom

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:10 PM Nicolas P. Rougier nicolas.roug...@inria.fr
wrote:

 Ok. I'll wait for the MEP directory to start writing a proposal.
 Here is a flavor of what I think could be done (to be seen using a fixed
 width font):


 AB:
 ┌┐┌┐
 │ A  ││ B  │
 ││││
 ││││
 └┘└┘

 ABB:
 ┌──┐┌──┐
 │ A││ B│
 │  ││  │
 │  ││  │
 └──┘└──┘

 ABD
 CCD:
 ┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐
 │ A ││ B ││ D │
 │   ││   ││   │
 │   ││   ││   │
 └───┘└───┘│   │
 ┌┐│   │
 │ C  ││   │
 │││   │
 └┘└───┘

 AaBb:
 ┌───┐┌─┐┌───┐┌─┐
 │ A ││ ││ B ││ │
 │   ││ ││   ││ │
 │   ││ ││   ││ │
 └───┘└─┘└───┘└─┘

   b  
 aABCc:
 ┌───┐
 └───┘
 ┌─┐┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐┌─┐
 │ ││ A ││ B ││ C ││ │
 │ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
 │ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
 └─┘└───┘└───┘└───┘└─┘




 On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:34, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:

 two problems with that: 1) that really doesn't make me want to use this
 approach, especially since I wouldn't know what ratios I would want in the
 first place. 2) it can't tell if I want a horizontal or vertical colorbar,
 whereas the lower-case notation could have some logic to auto-detect the
 user's intent (e.g., all lower-case letters in the last row
 indicates horizontal bars). It would also allow us to return the plotting
 axes separate from the colorbar axes, which is how axes_grid1 does it, and
 it is very nice that way.

 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:

 I think you could specify colorbars using: [AB]
 (B is a vertical colorbar, 1/10 of total width)

 Nicolas



  On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:52, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
 
  On 2015/03/18 7:42 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
  A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
  in the layout?
 
  A lower-case letter could indicate a colorbar-size Axes:
 
  layout = [ABc,
DE ,
ff ]
 
  would put a vertical think axes to the right of B, and a double-wide
  hoizontal one below D and E.
 
  All of this seems like an alternative API for gridspec and axes_grid1.
 
  I am concerned about ending up with too many ways to do things, but with
  subtle differences.
 
  How much control over spacing and sizing would be provided by kwargs or
  other adjustment mechanisms?  How would this relate to subplot_params?
 
  Eric
 
 
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-19 Thread Nicolas P. Rougier

I think you could specify colorbars using: [AB]
(B is a vertical colorbar, 1/10 of total width)

Nicolas



 On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:52, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
 
 On 2015/03/18 7:42 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
 A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
 in the layout?
 
 A lower-case letter could indicate a colorbar-size Axes:
 
 layout = [ABc,
   DE ,
   ff ]
 
 would put a vertical think axes to the right of B, and a double-wide 
 hoizontal one below D and E.
 
 All of this seems like an alternative API for gridspec and axes_grid1.
 
 I am concerned about ending up with too many ways to do things, but with 
 subtle differences.
 
 How much control over spacing and sizing would be provided by kwargs or 
 other adjustment mechanisms?  How would this relate to subplot_params?
 
 Eric
 
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-19 Thread Nicolas P. Rougier
Ok. I'll wait for the MEP directory to start writing a proposal.
Here is a flavor of what I think could be done (to be seen using a fixed width 
font):


AB:
┌┐┌┐
│ A  ││ B  │
││││
││││
└┘└┘

ABB:
┌──┐┌──┐
│ A││ B│
│  ││  │
│  ││  │
└──┘└──┘

ABD
CCD:
┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐
│ A ││ B ││ D │
│   ││   ││   │
│   ││   ││   │
└───┘└───┘│   │
┌┐│   │
│ C  ││   │
│││   │
└┘└───┘

AaBb:
┌───┐┌─┐┌───┐┌─┐
│ A ││ ││ B ││ │
│   ││ ││   ││ │
│   ││ ││   ││ │
└───┘└─┘└───┘└─┘

  b  
aABCc:
┌───┐
└───┘
┌─┐┌───┐┌───┐┌───┐┌─┐
│ ││ A ││ B ││ C ││ │
│ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
│ ││   ││   ││   ││ │
└─┘└───┘└───┘└───┘└─┘




 On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:34, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
 two problems with that: 1) that really doesn't make me want to use this 
 approach, especially since I wouldn't know what ratios I would want in the 
 first place. 2) it can't tell if I want a horizontal or vertical colorbar, 
 whereas the lower-case notation could have some logic to auto-detect the 
 user's intent (e.g., all lower-case letters in the last row indicates 
 horizontal bars). It would also allow us to return the plotting axes separate 
 from the colorbar axes, which is how axes_grid1 does it, and it is very nice 
 that way.
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
 
 I think you could specify colorbars using: [AB]
 (B is a vertical colorbar, 1/10 of total width)
 
 Nicolas
 
 
 
  On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:52, Eric Firing efir...@hawaii.edu wrote:
 
  On 2015/03/18 7:42 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
  A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
  in the layout?
 
  A lower-case letter could indicate a colorbar-size Axes:
 
  layout = [ABc,
DE ,
ff ]
 
  would put a vertical think axes to the right of B, and a double-wide
  hoizontal one below D and E.
 
  All of this seems like an alternative API for gridspec and axes_grid1.
 
  I am concerned about ending up with too many ways to do things, but with
  subtle differences.
 
  How much control over spacing and sizing would be provided by kwargs or
  other adjustment mechanisms?  How would this relate to subplot_params?
 
  Eric
 
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Benjamin Root
That is neat. I would be sure to put in some ..seealso:: lines in places
like plt.subplots and GridSpec and such.

A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars in
the layout? I am not sure how I would do that, but if we could come up with
a way to do it, *that* would make this a killer feature. But even without
that, this is still pretty useful.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to
 `subplots`

 Tom

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:


 Hi,

 I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout in
 a rather intuitive way.
 The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.

 Examples:

 layout = [AB]
 - means two plots side by side with equal width

 layout = [AAAB]
 - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B

 layout = [AB,
   CC]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width

 layout = [AB,
   C ]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)

 etc... (have a look at sources)

 I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most common
 ones.

 If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm
 not sure where to insert it.
 My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:

 A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
 A.plot(...)
 B.plot(...)
 C.plot(...)


 Nicolas


 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Benjamin Root
I like that. Furthermore, now that we build and push the docs with every
merge in master, there is less reason to not do it that way.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Currently we are doing MEPs on the wiki (
 https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/wiki/MEPTemplate) , but I would
 like to move them to be in the docs (make a MEP folder next to 'users'?) as
 the visibility on the wiki is low, there isn't a great way to leave line
 comments, and we should have these documents in the official docs
 eventually.

 Tom

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:45 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:


 Yes, a MEP makes sense to discuss the proposal.
 What's the procedure to open a MEP (i.e. where) ?

 Nicolas


  On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:44, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
  Also, perhaps it makes sense to make this a MEP to finalize and
 document the spec?
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
  That is neat. I would be sure to put in some ..seealso:: lines in
 places like plt.subplots and GridSpec and such.
 
  A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify
 colorbars in the layout? I am not sure how I would do that, but if we could
 come up with a way to do it, *that* would make this a killer feature. But
 even without that, this is still pretty useful.
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to
 `subplots`
 
  Tom
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout
 in a rather intuitive way.
  The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.
 
  Examples:
 
  layout = [AB]
  - means two plots side by side with equal width
 
  layout = [AAAB]
  - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B
 
  layout = [AB,
CC]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width
 
  layout = [AB,
C ]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)
 
  etc... (have a look at sources)
 
  I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most
 common ones.
 
  If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm
 not sure where to insert it.
  My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:
 
  A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
  A.plot(...)
  B.plot(...)
  C.plot(...)
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Thomas Caswell
Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to
`subplots`

Tom

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier nicolas.roug...@inria.fr
wrote:


 Hi,

 I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout in a
 rather intuitive way.
 The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.

 Examples:

 layout = [AB]
 - means two plots side by side with equal width

 layout = [AAAB]
 - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B

 layout = [AB,
   CC]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width

 layout = [AB,
   C ]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)

 etc... (have a look at sources)

 I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most common
 ones.

 If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm not
 sure where to insert it.
 My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:

 A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
 A.plot(...)
 B.plot(...)
 C.plot(...)


 Nicolas


 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Benjamin Root
Also, perhaps it makes sense to make this a MEP to finalize and document
the spec?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:

 That is neat. I would be sure to put in some ..seealso:: lines in places
 like plt.subplots and GridSpec and such.

 A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
 in the layout? I am not sure how I would do that, but if we could come up
 with a way to do it, *that* would make this a killer feature. But even
 without that, this is still pretty useful.

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to
 `subplots`

 Tom

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:


 Hi,

 I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout in
 a rather intuitive way.
 The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.

 Examples:

 layout = [AB]
 - means two plots side by side with equal width

 layout = [AAAB]
 - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B

 layout = [AB,
   CC]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width

 layout = [AB,
   C ]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)

 etc... (have a look at sources)

 I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most
 common ones.

 If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm
 not sure where to insert it.
 My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:

 A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
 A.plot(...)
 B.plot(...)
 C.plot(...)


 Nicolas


 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Nicolas P. Rougier

Yes, a MEP makes sense to discuss the proposal.
What's the procedure to open a MEP (i.e. where) ?

Nicolas


 On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:44, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
 Also, perhaps it makes sense to make this a MEP to finalize and document the 
 spec?
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 That is neat. I would be sure to put in some ..seealso:: lines in places 
 like plt.subplots and GridSpec and such.
 
 A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars in 
 the layout? I am not sure how I would do that, but if we could come up with a 
 way to do it, *that* would make this a killer feature. But even without that, 
 this is still pretty useful.
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to `subplots`
 
 Tom
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier nicolas.roug...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout in a 
 rather intuitive way.
 The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.
 
 Examples:
 
 layout = [AB]
 - means two plots side by side with equal width
 
 layout = [AAAB]
 - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B
 
 layout = [AB,
   CC]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width
 
 layout = [AB,
   C ]
 - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)
 
 etc... (have a look at sources)
 
 I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most common 
 ones.
 
 If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm not 
 sure where to insert it.
 My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:
 
 A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
 A.plot(...)
 B.plot(...)
 C.plot(...)
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Benjamin Root
Fantastic question. I don't see any mention of it in the docs. Perhaps I
should create a MEP to discuss that...

This is the best I could find: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/wiki

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Nicolas P. Rougier 
nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:


 Yes, a MEP makes sense to discuss the proposal.
 What's the procedure to open a MEP (i.e. where) ?

 Nicolas


  On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:44, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
  Also, perhaps it makes sense to make this a MEP to finalize and document
 the spec?
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
  That is neat. I would be sure to put in some ..seealso:: lines in
 places like plt.subplots and GridSpec and such.
 
  A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
 in the layout? I am not sure how I would do that, but if we could come up
 with a way to do it, *that* would make this a killer feature. But even
 without that, this is still pretty useful.
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to
 `subplots`
 
  Tom
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout in
 a rather intuitive way.
  The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.
 
  Examples:
 
  layout = [AB]
  - means two plots side by side with equal width
 
  layout = [AAAB]
  - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B
 
  layout = [AB,
CC]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width
 
  layout = [AB,
C ]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)
 
  etc... (have a look at sources)
 
  I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most
 common ones.
 
  If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm
 not sure where to insert it.
  My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:
 
  A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
  A.plot(...)
  B.plot(...)
  C.plot(...)
 
 
  Nicolas
 
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Eric Firing
On 2015/03/18 7:42 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
 A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
 in the layout?

A lower-case letter could indicate a colorbar-size Axes:

layout = [ABc,
   DE ,
   ff ]

would put a vertical think axes to the right of B, and a double-wide 
hoizontal one below D and E.

All of this seems like an alternative API for gridspec and axes_grid1.

I am concerned about ending up with too many ways to do things, but with 
subtle differences.

How much control over spacing and sizing would be provided by kwargs or 
other adjustment mechanisms?  How would this relate to subplot_params?

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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread Thomas Caswell
Currently we are doing MEPs on the wiki (
https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/wiki/MEPTemplate) , but I would
like to move them to be in the docs (make a MEP folder next to 'users'?) as
the visibility on the wiki is low, there isn't a great way to leave line
comments, and we should have these documents in the official docs
eventually.

Tom

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:45 PM Nicolas P. Rougier nicolas.roug...@inria.fr
wrote:


 Yes, a MEP makes sense to discuss the proposal.
 What's the procedure to open a MEP (i.e. where) ?

 Nicolas


  On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:44, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
  Also, perhaps it makes sense to make this a MEP to finalize and document
 the spec?
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
  That is neat. I would be sure to put in some ..seealso:: lines in
 places like plt.subplots and GridSpec and such.
 
  A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify colorbars
 in the layout? I am not sure how I would do that, but if we could come up
 with a way to do it, *that* would make this a killer feature. But even
 without that, this is still pretty useful.
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to
 `subplots`
 
  Tom
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout in
 a rather intuitive way.
  The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.
 
  Examples:
 
  layout = [AB]
  - means two plots side by side with equal width
 
  layout = [AAAB]
  - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B
 
  layout = [AB,
CC]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width
 
  layout = [AB,
C ]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)
 
  etc... (have a look at sources)
 
  I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most
 common ones.
 
  If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm
 not sure where to insert it.
  My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:
 
  A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
  A.plot(...)
  B.plot(...)
  C.plot(...)
 
 
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Alternative way of specifying plot layout

2015-03-18 Thread jni . soma
I love this layout spec idea! Gridspec is a pain in the ass. Bonus points for 
actually drawing the letter e.g. on the top left corner of each panel, so that 
the figures are ready for publication.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 5:04 AM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:

 I like that. Furthermore, now that we build and push the docs with every
 merge in master, there is less reason to not do it that way.
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Currently we are doing MEPs on the wiki (
 https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/wiki/MEPTemplate) , but I would
 like to move them to be in the docs (make a MEP folder next to 'users'?) as
 the visibility on the wiki is low, there isn't a great way to leave line
 comments, and we should have these documents in the official docs
 eventually.

 Tom

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:45 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:


 Yes, a MEP makes sense to discuss the proposal.
 What's the procedure to open a MEP (i.e. where) ?

 Nicolas


  On 18 Mar 2015, at 18:44, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
 
  Also, perhaps it makes sense to make this a MEP to finalize and
 document the spec?
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Benjamin Root ben.r...@ou.edu wrote:
  That is neat. I would be sure to put in some ..seealso:: lines in
 places like plt.subplots and GridSpec and such.
 
  A thought... could this perhaps be extended somehow to specify
 colorbars in the layout? I am not sure how I would do that, but if we could
 come up with a way to do it, *that* would make this a killer feature. But
 even without that, this is still pretty useful.
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Cool.  I think it make sense to put this in to `pyplot.py` next to
 `subplots`
 
  Tom
 
  On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:14 PM Nicolas P. Rougier 
 nicolas.roug...@inria.fr wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I've been experimenting with a simple idea for specifying plot layout
 in a rather intuitive way.
  The idea is simply to draw your layout using strings.
 
  Examples:
 
  layout = [AB]
  - means two plots side by side with equal width
 
  layout = [AAAB]
  - means two plots side by side A being 3 times wider than B
 
  layout = [AB,
CC]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below with full width
 
  layout = [AB,
C ]
  - means two plots (A  B) side by side and C below A (same width)
 
  etc... (have a look at sources)
 
  I guess you cannot express every layout but it might work for most
 common ones.
 
  If you think this might a good addition I can try to make a PR but I'm
 not sure where to insert it.
  My idea would be to have a layout function such that you can write:
 
  A,B,C = plt.layout([AB, CC], border=0.01)
  A.plot(...)
  B.plot(...)
  C.plot(...)
 
 
  Nicolas
 
 
  
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