Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

[Amalyah Keshet]

I see your point. 
But it needn't "prohibit any efforts to ultimately adopt an open access policy 
for the public."
The public is not bound by your internal policies. If you make images of public 
domain works accessible,
obviously the public can do anything it pleases with them.  There is no 
curatorial vetting for those uses -- only your museum's. 

Or to put it another way, your museum is free to continue to control how *it* 
uses images of PD works in its collections, just as the public is free to do 
otherwise.  Your museum's reproductions will retain the stamp of approval, 
authenticity, and integrity that your institution wants.  

Does that make sense?

I would take the Rijksstudio project as an example.  Making their images of 
their PD collections free for the public to muck about with hasn't reduced the 
integrity of the Rijksmuseum's collections or photography one bit.  


Amalyah Keshet
Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management
The Israel Museum, Jerusalem




From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu <mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu> on behalf of Perian Sully 
<per...@emphatic.org>
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 19:44
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Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Amalyah, what I mean regarding internal use policies is exactly as you
stated - curators wishing to retain full control of representations of
objects in the collection. Currently, it's a blanket rule that everything,
regardless of copyright or sensitivity, needs to be run by curatorial
before the image is cropped or edited for use by all other departments. The
vast majority of the collection is public domain.

Obviously, this increases workloads for the staff and slows down production
of program materials, but it would also prohibit any efforts to ultimately
adopt an open access policy for the public. So I'm looking for the balance
between respect for collection representation/copyright and facilitating
access.

~P

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Amalyah Keshet <akes...@imj.org.il> wrote:

> Hi Perian
>
> Rather depends on what you mean by "internal use policies". Could you
> clarify?
>
> If a work is in the public domain, it is no longer protected and anyone
> can reproduce it in any way they want, including cropping it, etc. Are you
> implying institutional policies that would override that?  Are you thinking
> of reproductions in catalogs, or in marketing materials, or on social
> media, or on signage...?
>
> I can think of situations in which a curator might object to misleading
> manipulation of a public domain work from the collection, and in fact the
> role of our institutions is to preserve the integrity of the works in our
> collections, but in general cropping for graphic reasons would be
> considered just that: a design decision, and those tend to be taken during
> the editorial / design process by those involved: curators, editors,
> graphic designers.
>
> If a work is still protected by copyright and (in some countries) by moral
> rights, then cropping or manipulation would require the approval of the
> artist or copyright holder.  That's not an "internal use" policy; let's
> call it best practice.
> There are artists who are fine with things like cropping; others are not.
>
> Amalyah Keshet
> Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management
> The Israel Museum, Jerusalem
>
>
>
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Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

[Perian Sully]

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Amalyah, what I mean regarding internal use policies is exactly as you
stated - curators wishing to retain full control of representations of
objects in the collection. Currently, it's a blanket rule that everything,
regardless of copyright or sensitivity, needs to be run by curatorial
before the image is cropped or edited for use by all other departments. The
vast majority of the collection is public domain.

Obviously, this increases workloads for the staff and slows down production
of program materials, but it would also prohibit any efforts to ultimately
adopt an open access policy for the public. So I'm looking for the balance
between respect for collection representation/copyright and facilitating
access.

~P

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Amalyah Keshet  wrote:

> Hi Perian
>
> Rather depends on what you mean by "internal use policies". Could you
> clarify?
>
> If a work is in the public domain, it is no longer protected and anyone
> can reproduce it in any way they want, including cropping it, etc. Are you
> implying institutional policies that would override that?  Are you thinking
> of reproductions in catalogs, or in marketing materials, or on social
> media, or on signage...?
>
> I can think of situations in which a curator might object to misleading
> manipulation of a public domain work from the collection, and in fact the
> role of our institutions is to preserve the integrity of the works in our
> collections, but in general cropping for graphic reasons would be
> considered just that: a design decision, and those tend to be taken during
> the editorial / design process by those involved: curators, editors,
> graphic designers.
>
> If a work is still protected by copyright and (in some countries) by moral
> rights, then cropping or manipulation would require the approval of the
> artist or copyright holder.  That's not an "internal use" policy; let's
> call it best practice.
> There are artists who are fine with things like cropping; others are not.
>
> Amalyah Keshet
> Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management
> The Israel Museum, Jerusalem
>
>
>
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Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

[Amalyah Keshet]

Hi Perian

Rather depends on what you mean by "internal use policies". Could you clarify?

If a work is in the public domain, it is no longer protected and anyone can 
reproduce it in any way they want, including cropping it, etc. Are you implying 
institutional policies that would override that?  Are you thinking of 
reproductions in catalogs, or in marketing materials, or on social media, or on 
signage...?

I can think of situations in which a curator might object to misleading 
manipulation of a public domain work from the collection, and in fact the role 
of our institutions is to preserve the integrity of the works in our 
collections, but in general cropping for graphic reasons would be considered 
just that: a design decision, and those tend to be taken during the editorial / 
design process by those involved: curators, editors, graphic designers.

If a work is still protected by copyright and (in some countries) by moral 
rights, then cropping or manipulation would require the approval of the artist 
or copyright holder.  That's not an "internal use" policy; let's call it best 
practice.
There are artists who are fine with things like cropping; others are not. 

Amalyah Keshet
Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management
The Israel Museum, Jerusalem




From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu <mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu> on behalf of Perian Sully 
<per...@emphatic.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 01:53
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Subject: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

Hi everyone:

I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images,
especially for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping
and editing by staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use?
what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any?

Thanks in advance,

~Perian
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Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

[Tanner, Simon]

Hi Perian,

Check out DAYOR for some interesting articles and papers and insights on image 
usage and for some links to records on image use.
http://displayatyourownrisk.org/about-dayor/

Also:
Kapsalis, E., The Impact of Open Access on Galleries, Libraries, Museums, & 
Archives (2016), available at: 
http://siarchives.si.edu/sites/default/files/pdfs/2016_03_10_OpenCollections_Public.pdf

Gorgels, P., Rijksstudio, Make Your Own Masterpiece. A Keynote from the 2013 
NDF Conference (2014), 
available at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW17d-OQsIs

Sanderhoff, M., ‘Open Images. Risk or opportunity for art museums in the 
digital age?’ (2013) Nordic Museology 131-46

Best regards,
Simon

Simon Tanner | Pro Vice Dean (Impact & Innovation), Arts & Humanities
Professor of Digital Cultural Heritage
Department of Digital Humanities | Senior Tutor
King's College London | 219, 26-29 Drury Lane | London WC2B 5RL

Email: simon.tan...@kcl.ac.uk
Research: https://kclpure.kcl.ac.uk/portal/simon.tanner.html

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Sully
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:54 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
Subject: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

Hi everyone:

I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images, especially 
for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping and editing by 
staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use?
what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any?

Thanks in advance,

~Perian
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Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

[Tanner, Simon]

Hi Perian,

Check out DAYOR for some interesting articles and papers and insights on image 
usage and for some links to records on image use.
http://displayatyourownrisk.org/about-dayor/

Also:
Kapsalis, E., The Impact of Open Access on Galleries, Libraries, Museums, & 
Archives (2016), available at: 
http://siarchives.si.edu/sites/default/files/pdfs/2016_03_10_OpenCollections_Public.pdf

Gorgels, P., Rijksstudio, Make Your Own Masterpiece. A Keynote from the 2013 
NDF Conference (2014), 
available at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW17d-OQsIs

Sanderhoff, M., ‘Open Images. Risk or opportunity for art museums in the 
digital age?’ (2013) Nordic Museology 131-46

Best regards,
Simon

Simon Tanner | Pro Vice Dean (Impact & Innovation), Arts & Humanities
Professor of Digital Cultural Heritage
Department of Digital Humanities | Senior Tutor
King's College London | 219, 26-29 Drury Lane | London WC2B 5RL

Email: simon.tan...@kcl.ac.uk
Research: https://kclpure.kcl.ac.uk/portal/simon.tanner.html

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Sully
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 11:54 PM
To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
Subject: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

Hi everyone:

I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images, especially 
for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping and editing by 
staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use?
what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any?

Thanks in advance,

~Perian
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Re: [MCN-L] Internal image use policies

[Rob Lancefield on lists]

Hi Perian and all,

With images of public domain works here in the Davison Art Center 
collection, anyone (museum staff, parent university staff, or public) is 
free to do whatever they want under our open access images policy.


That said, if a given use were to be for a public-facing institutional 
publication under our own auspices, it would eventually go through our 
general proofing flow in design stage, and approving the treatment of 
images (regardless of their sources) would be part of that process.


Hope this helps,
Rob

--
Rob Lancefield
Manager of Museum Information Services / Registrar of Collections
Davison Art Center, Wesleyan University
301 High Street, Middletown CT 06459-0487 USA
rlancefield [at] wesleyan [dot] edu  |  tel. 860.685.2965

On 10/19/16 6:53 PM, Perian Sully wrote:

Hi everyone:

I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images,
especially for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping
and editing by staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use?
what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any?

Thanks in advance,

~Perian

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[MCN-L] Internal image use policies

[Perian Sully]

Hi everyone:

I'm looking for a few examples of internal use policies for images,
especially for public domain or orphan works. Do you allow free cropping
and editing by staff or do you require curatorial approval before each use?
what kinds of materials have restrictions, if any?

Thanks in advance,

~Perian
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