RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

[Miller, Todd]

I understand.  The windows team that can’t manage to release a Server OS 
without XBOX tiles is unlikely to have resources devoted to unhiding the mouse 
cursor during OS Deployment.

I feel that as I develop a deployment strategy for Windows 10, I am having sand 
kicked in my face at every turn.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 12:05 PM
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

FYI, I just closed the item as external; this is confirmed as a bug in Windows 
when Microsoft Support engineers reproduced the issue outside of SCCM. Opening 
a support case will help add impact to the issue with another customer hitting 
the same issue, but to set expectations may not further expedite resolution.

Aaron


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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, 4 November, 2016 16:40
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

i voted !

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Miller, Todd 
> wrote:
Whoops… wrong link, sorry.

https://connect.microsoft.com/ConfigurationManagervnext/Feedback/Details/3110654


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On Behalf Of Miller, Todd
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:55 PM
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

Yelp if you feel like it…

https://connect.microsoft.com/ConfigurationManagervnext/feedback/EditFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=3110654


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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mote, Todd
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:35 PM
To: 'mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com' 
>
Subject: RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

Yep, saw it yesterday in fact.  On server 2016 too.

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 12:19 PM
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

Its in 1607 also fyi

Sent from my phone, please excuse any typo's as a result.


On 4 Nov 2016, at 16:05, Jason Sandys > 
wrote:
There was a confirmed bug in WinPE 1511 that was supposed to be fixed in 1607. 
Don’t know if it truly got fixed or not.

J

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Miller, Todd
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 9:24 AM
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

I see this problem has been asked, but I don’t know if there was ever an answer.

When I “F8” to open a command window during an OS Deployment of Windows 10, 
there is no mouse cursor displayed.  The cursor is just hidden, the mouse still 
“works” it is just the pointer is no visible.  It makes troubleshooting OS 
Deployment difficult to impossible because the only real action you can do is 
with the keyboard.  Windows get in the way of what you are looking at – it is 
just really difficult to maneuver in the OS without the mouse cursor.

Has anyone figured out a good way to recover the cursor?   This is really 
tedious.  Anything in the Unattend.xml that could counteract this effect or 
maybe some command In the TS that could run after reboot to show the mouse.  It 
feels like whatever process is hiding the desktop with the black screen is also 
hiding the mouse.  So frustrating.

The cursor is present in WinPE stages, but not full OS.  It is also fine from 
the same boot media in Windows 7 deployment.

[MDT-OSD] RE: USMT template to migrate legacy sticky notes

[Klish, Brian]

So I was thinking about adding some detection to this template so it's ok to 
run it on older OS deployments.  From what I'm reading only Scanstate processes 
the  section.  That tag is deprecated, but I'm not sure the new 
Detection tag works any different in that respect.  Really it seems like I want 
Loadstate to process it since I need to ensure the destination has the new 
"modern" Sticky Notes app.  If it does then that's when I want to do a 
locationModify.  If the destination doesn't have the "modern" sticky app then I 
really want to do nothing since the default USMT templates will migrate the 
legacy ones.

Anyone know how I could handle this?


-Brian

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Behalf Of Klish, Brian
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:51 PM
To: 'mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com' 
Subject: [MDT-OSD] USMT template to migrate legacy sticky notes

Couldn't find this around anywhere so today I put together a USMT template to 
migrate the legacy sticky notes to the new Sticky Notes (Trusted Windows Store 
app) that's in Windows 10 v1607.  Seems like it should be handled by the 
default USMT templates since it's a Windows thing, but it isn't.  Thought I'd 
share...


http://www.microsoft.com/migration/1.0/migxmlext/LegacyStickyNotes;>

LegacyStickyNotes




%CSIDL_APPDATA%\Microsoft\Sticky 
Notes\ [StickyNotes.snt]






%CSIDL_APPDATA%\Microsoft\Sticky Notes\ [StickyNotes.snt]










-Brian

RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

[Daniel Ratliff]

Same as Niall. It was well after Windows Setup, it was installing Encryption 
which is toward the end of our TS.

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 3:33 AM
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

F8 and i was very surprised to see it reboot with the CMD open

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Keith Garner 
> wrote:
Did you press F8 or Shift-F10?

F8 – yea, it could depend on when you pressed it, was SCCM running in the 
background.
Although once pressed, it should prevent setup from rebooting.
Shift-F10 – I don’t think this would be supported.

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:20 PM

To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

Full windows. Just saw it last week on Win7 Ent x64 and Win10 Ent 1511 x64 
(SCCM 1606 &  ADK 1511).

Daniel Ratliff

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Czechowski
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:04 PM
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

Is that in full Windows or WinPE?

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Thursday, 10 November, 2016 11:26
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

hi Aaron
what about the "cmd window not holding the reboot"
this used to work always, and would never reboot during OSD if there was a cmd 
window open, but in 1606 (and perhaps 1602) with adk 1607 and 1511 respectively 
we've seen this, have you seen it ? is that also specific to Windows (i.e. 
external to SCCM) >?

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Aaron Czechowski 
> wrote:
FYI, I just closed the item as external; this is confirmed as a bug in Windows 
when Microsoft Support engineers reproduced the issue outside of SCCM. Opening 
a support case will help add impact to the issue with another customer hitting 
the same issue, but to set expectations may not further expedite resolution.

Aaron


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Niall Brady
Sent: Friday, 4 November, 2016 16:40
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

i voted !

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Miller, Todd 
> wrote:
Whoops… wrong link, sorry.

https://connect.microsoft.com/ConfigurationManagervnext/Feedback/Details/3110654


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Miller, Todd
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:55 PM
To: mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

Yelp if you feel like it…

https://connect.microsoft.com/ConfigurationManagervnext/feedback/EditFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=3110654


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mote, Todd
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:35 PM
To: 'mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com' 
>
Subject: RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

Yep, saw it yesterday in fact.  On server 2016 too.

From: 

Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD

[Niall Brady]

F8 and i was very surprised to see it reboot with the CMD open

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Keith Garner 
wrote:

> Did you press F8 or Shift-F10?
>
>
>
> F8 – yea, it could depend on when you pressed it, was SCCM running in the
> background.
> Although once pressed, it should prevent setup from rebooting.
>
> Shift-F10 – I don’t think this would be supported.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Ratliff
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:20 PM
>
> *To:* mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD
>
>
>
> Full windows. Just saw it last week on Win7 Ent x64 and Win10 Ent 1511 x64
> (SCCM 1606 &  ADK 1511).
>
>
>
> *Daniel Ratliff*
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Aaron
> Czechowski
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:04 PM
> *To:* mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD
>
>
>
> Is that in full Windows or WinPE?
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Niall Brady
> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 November, 2016 11:26
> *To:* mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD
>
>
>
> hi Aaron
>
> what about the "cmd window not holding the reboot"
>
> this used to work always, and would never reboot during OSD if there was a
> cmd window open, but in 1606 (and perhaps 1602) with adk 1607 and 1511
> respectively we've seen this, have you seen it ? is that also specific to
> Windows (i.e. external to SCCM) >?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Aaron Czechowski <
> aaron.czechow...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> FYI, I just closed the item as external; this is confirmed as a bug in
> Windows when Microsoft Support engineers reproduced the issue outside of
> SCCM. Opening a support case will help add impact to the issue with another
> customer hitting the same issue, but to set expectations may not further
> expedite resolution.
>
>
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Niall Brady
> *Sent:* Friday, 4 November, 2016 16:40
> *To:* mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD
>
>
>
> i voted !
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Miller, Todd 
> wrote:
>
> Whoops… wrong link, sorry.
>
>
>
> https://connect.microsoft.com/ConfigurationManagervnext/
> Feedback/Details/3110654
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Miller, Todd
> *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 3:55 PM
> *To:* mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
>
>
> *Subject:* RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD
>
>
>
> Yelp if you feel like it…
>
>
>
> https://connect.microsoft.com/ConfigurationManagervnext/
> feedback/EditFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=3110654
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mote, Todd
> *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 12:35 PM
> *To:* 'mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com' 
> *Subject:* RE: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD
>
>
>
> Yep, saw it yesterday in fact.  On server 2016 too.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Niall Brady
> *Sent:* Friday, November 4, 2016 12:19 PM
> *To:* mdtosd@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [MDT-OSD] RE: Windows 10 - mouse cursor gone during OSD
>
>
>
> Its in 1607 also fyi
>
> Sent from my phone, please excuse any typo's as a result.
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Nov 2016, at 16:05, Jason Sandys  wrote:
>
> There was a confirmed bug in WinPE 1511 that was supposed to be fixed in
> 1607. Don’t know if it truly got fixed or not.
>
>
>
> J
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On