[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
By now, you may have read that The Linux Foundation, with the support of several other companies, announced a new project, Tizenhttps://tizen.org/, to build a new operating system for devices. This new project is first and foremost open source, and based on Linux. So it begs the question: why not just evolve MeeGo? We believe the future belongs to HTML5-based applications, outside of a relatively small percentage of apps, and we are firmly convinced that our investment needs to shift toward HTML5. Shifting to HTML5 doesn't just mean slapping a web runtime on an existing Linux, even one aimed at mobile, as MeeGo has been. Emphasizing HTML5 means that APIs not visible to HTML5 programmers need not be as rigid, and can evolve with platform technology and can vary by market segment. Granted, this is a judgment on our part on which reasonable people could disagree, but that's the conclusion I came to. But in the new project, a lot of things will be the same as they were in the MeeGo project. The Tizen project will reside within the Linux Foundation, will be governed by a Technical Steering Group, and will be developed openly with familiar and improved infrastructure. Much like MeeGo, the Tizen project will support multiple device categories, including Tablets, Netbooks, Handsets, Smart TV, and In-Vehicle Infotainment systems. Over the next couple of months, we will be working very hard to make sure that users of MeeGo can easily transition to Tizen, and I will be working even harder to make sure that developers of MeeGo can also transition to Tizen. I want to personally thank everyone who has participated in MeeGo over the past year and a half, and I encourage you to join us at Tizen.orghttp://Tizen.org. We hope to use what we learned from the MeeGo project to make Tizen successful, and I hope to see you participating in Tizen! Imad ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 07:30, Sousou, Imad imad.sou...@intel.com wrote: Granted, this is a judgment on our part on which reasonable people could disagree, but that's the conclusion I came to. I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance. Tell me how it will do crypto certificates (in Javascript?). Java also won't go away. The OS I want is one that can leverage all existing apps, Java ME, native linux, or yes, even HTML5, but does not engage in religious evangelism of one API over another. FC -- Nunca te pelees con alguien que ya no tiene nada que perder -anónimo ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Ross ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:03, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote: Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Ross Let's re-do everything Java ME has done, with ugly interpreted Javascript... Yay... FC ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
Hi, I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance. This can also be done using something like PhoneGap (http://docs.phonegap.com/) which exposes native mobile device apis and data to JavaScript. It builds for Android, iOS, Blackberry, Symbian, WebOS and Bada through an automated build system (https://build.phonegap.com/) which is currently in Beta but which seems to be stable enough to at least get get you started on building cross platform mobile apps Regards -- http://ianlawrence.info ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams into HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or how you connect the hardware to the operating system. While this answers the question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera it doesn't obviate the need for native drivers and modules to talk to the hardware, which was partly the OP's point. Regards, Jeremiah Ross ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines -- = Jeremiah C. Foster Open Source Technologist Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18 Gothenburg, Sweden Mobile: +46 (0)730 93 0506 E-Mail: jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com = === NOTE === The information contained in this E-mail message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. = ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
[MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!
Hi, From where come the decision of switching to tizen? MeeGo guideline was supposed to be driven by open governance and meetings open to everyone, what does this mean to switch like that without asking to people of the community? Who is the stupid guy that though that switching everything to HTML5 was the future? Someone coming from the wonderful failure that is the google chromeOS project? I don't say that adding an additional support for html5 apps in MeeGo is not good. But today, you have a system that start to become usable and to have its brand well known and you trash all of this in one day without discussion? Tell the truth, Tizen is an hostile action against MeeGo that is a serious concurrent to LiMo that is currently nothing. Without Tizen, Limo project would have been dead in few time as there is nothing and no one is willing to use it. Anyway, my MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE: Tizen looks like to be more a takeover against the open governance of MeeGo. Just compare the governance of the two projects as stated in the about pages of each one: MEEGO: Governance MeeGo™ is an open source project created by merging the Moblin and Maemo software platforms, and is led by the MeeGo Technical Steering Group (TSG). The governance model is based on meritocracy and the best practices and values of the Open Source culture. The MeeGo project lives under the auspices of the Linux Foundation. MeeGo is open to all contributors There are no admission processes, contracts, or membership fees for MeeGo, just your desire to join the project and contribute. TIZEN: https://www.tizen.org/community Anyone can contribute by: Submitting patches Filing bugs Developing applications Helping with wiki documentation Participating in other community efforts and programs Membership in most project teams (Release Engineering, QA, Program Management, etc.) is invite-only and will mainly be open to people at companies who are building products based on Tizen. However, Community Office, Localization, and some Middleware development teams will be open to participation on a merit basis. Compare the: open to all contributors to the invite-only to companies. So, If you are not working at Intel or Samsung, the only part that you will be able to take in this project is to fill bugs and dev apps. Question: How the linux foundation legitimate a project that is not based on open governance and transparency? To anyone, please show here your agreement if you share the same feelings ! And don't legitimate this takeover! Florent ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
I'm very sad about Meego, when I start to read I thought that Meego will be a different distribution, different of default(Android, iOs, or WP7), but let's see this Tizen, I hope that Tizen be better and more comercial than Meego 2011/9/28 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams into HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or how you connect the hardware to the operating system. While this answers the question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera it doesn't obviate the need for native drivers and modules to talk to the hardware, which was partly the OP's point. Regards, Jeremiah Ross ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines -- = Jeremiah C. Foster Open Source Technologist Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18 Gothenburg, Sweden Mobile: +46 (0)730 93 0506 E-Mail: jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com = === NOTE === The information contained in this E-mail message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. = ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!
[Moving to 'meego-community'] On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 13:35, Florent Viard fvi...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, my MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE: Tizen looks like to be more a takeover against the open governance of MeeGo. Without commenting further on the merits of this, it's been obvious for a long time (since the start of the project, maybe) that MeeGo's open development open governance was a promise (and its stated USP) that it could not live up to. The TSG are absent. There is no architectural discussion publicly. There is no roadmap. There is no public discussion of specifications for implementing new features. Tizen's governance model recognises that Intel LF could not achieve this with MeeGo. LiMo's development to date has been closed by design. This does raise the obvious question as to what Tizen's USP *is*, since MeeGo's was its open development/open source compared with, say, Android's closed development/open source. Tizen seems to be the same governance as Android, with no UI; no framework; no apps. The promise is of HTML5 apps; but then why would a vendor use Tizen as the base rather than Android, or Windows - both of which also target HTML5 apps. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:and...@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!
Hi Florent, Your frustration is understandable, but somewhat misplaced. It is entirely okay to change the branding and governance of MeeGo, or any project. Open Source licenses say nothing about project governance as long as the licenses are respected. Much of MeeGo is under an Open Source license so it is completely okay to make this change to Tizen, even if it discomfits developers. If you want more control over how your contributions are used, I'd recommend using a strong copyleft license when you contribute software, like the GPL. You may also want to contribute to truly open projects that have a clear governance model and a proven track record of transparency. A project like GNU, Debian, or Fedora for example might be more to your liking. Regards, Jeremiah On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Florent Viard fvi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, From where come the decision of switching to tizen? MeeGo guideline was supposed to be driven by open governance and meetings open to everyone, what does this mean to switch like that without asking to people of the community? Who is the stupid guy that though that switching everything to HTML5 was the future? Someone coming from the wonderful failure that is the google chromeOS project? I don't say that adding an additional support for html5 apps in MeeGo is not good. But today, you have a system that start to become usable and to have its brand well known and you trash all of this in one day without discussion? Tell the truth, Tizen is an hostile action against MeeGo that is a serious concurrent to LiMo that is currently nothing. Without Tizen, Limo project would have been dead in few time as there is nothing and no one is willing to use it. Anyway, my MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE: Tizen looks like to be more a takeover against the open governance of MeeGo. Just compare the governance of the two projects as stated in the about pages of each one: MEEGO: Governance MeeGo™ is an open source project created by merging the Moblin and Maemo software platforms, and is led by the MeeGo Technical Steering Group (TSG). The governance model is based on meritocracy and the best practices and values of the Open Source culture. The MeeGo project lives under the auspices of the Linux Foundation. MeeGo is open to all contributors There are no admission processes, contracts, or membership fees for MeeGo, just your desire to join the project and contribute. TIZEN: https://www.tizen.org/community Anyone can contribute by: Submitting patches Filing bugs Developing applications Helping with wiki documentation Participating in other community efforts and programs Membership in most project teams (Release Engineering, QA, Program Management, etc.) is invite-only and will mainly be open to people at companies who are building products based on Tizen. However, Community Office, Localization, and some Middleware development teams will be open to participation on a merit basis. Compare the: open to all contributors to the invite-only to companies. So, If you are not working at Intel or Samsung, the only part that you will be able to take in this project is to fill bugs and dev apps. Question: How the linux foundation legitimate a project that is not based on open governance and transparency? To anyone, please show here your agreement if you share the same feelings ! And don't legitimate this takeover! Florent ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 15:31, Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams into HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or how you connect the hardware to the operating system. While this answers the question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera it doesn't obviate the need for native drivers and modules to talk to the hardware, which was partly the OP's point. It also doesn't answer what would you be able to do with the content you get from camera and audio samples. There are some examples on how you could achieve computational photography and audio processing tasks in Javascript but that is still in early infant stages. One will need to make native modules (to what? to JS engine?) to be able to process those using all power of the device in question. -- / Alexander Bokovoy ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
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The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled languages such as C/Python. On 28/09/2011 13:31, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com mailto:r...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-09-28 tel:2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance Something like this I guess: http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/ http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/ Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams into HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or how you connect the hardware to the operating system. While this answers the question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera it doesn't obviate the need for native drivers and modules to talk to the hardware, which was partly the OP's point. Regards, Jeremiah Ross ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com mailto:MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines -- = Jeremiah C. Foster Open Source Technologist Pelagicore AB Ekelundsgatan 4, 6tr, SE-411 18 Gothenburg, Sweden Mobile: +46 (0)730 93 0506 E-Mail: jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com mailto:jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com = === NOTE === The information contained in this E-mail message is intended only for use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. = ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howard howa...@gmx.co.uk wrote: The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled languages such as C/Python. Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted. Regards, Jeremiah ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
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My bad, I meant C/C++. Cheers, Si. On 28/09/2011 22:11, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howardhowa...@gmx.co.uk wrote: The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled languages such as C/Python. Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted. Regards, Jeremiah ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!
Hi, On 28 September 2011 14:05, Florent Viard fvi...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, confirmation that Tizen is LiMo and that the goal was just to kill MeeGo to avoid a strong concurrent: http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2011/09/limo-foundation-and-linux-foundation-announce-new-open-source-softw Tizen combines the best open source technologies from LiMo and The Linux Foundation and adds a robust and flexible standards-based HTML5 and WAC web development environment within which device-independent applications can be produced efficiently for unconstrained cross-platform deployment. It's probably misleading to call it LiMo. For one view of what's going on, take a look at http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/archives/001574.html - it may clear up some misconceptions about Tizen. It may also be entirely wrong, but I've been watching this closely for a while so let's see how events pan out. Andrew. -- asav...@apache.org / cont...@andrewsavory.com http://www.andrewsavory.com/ ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
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I do agree with the sentiment though. I've personally done some programming apps in android using an open framework that uses html and javascript but, although it does provide access to hardware, like gps, the camera and media, for more advanced functionality, you'd have to go back to adding that functionality through java. HTML/js is good for rapid deployment, however, nothing beats C and other compiled languages. It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening. Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)? You've got to have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development. Cheers, Clint On 9/29/2011 6:30 AM, Si Howard wrote: My bad, I meant C/C++. Cheers, Si. On 28/09/2011 22:11, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howardhowa...@gmx.co.uk wrote: The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled languages such as C/Python. Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted. Regards, Jeremiah ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)? You've got to have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development. +one with the same feeling. 2011/9/28 Clint Christopher Cañada clint...@ostalks.com: I do agree with the sentiment though. I've personally done some programming apps in android using an open framework that uses html and javascript but, although it does provide access to hardware, like gps, the camera and media, for more advanced functionality, you'd have to go back to adding that functionality through java. HTML/js is good for rapid deployment, however, nothing beats C and other compiled languages. It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening. Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)? You've got to have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development. Cheers, Clint On 9/29/2011 6:30 AM, Si Howard wrote: My bad, I meant C/C++. Cheers, Si. On 28/09/2011 22:11, Jeremiah Foster wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howard howa...@gmx.co.uk wrote: The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled languages such as C/Python. Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted. Regards, Jeremiah ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines -- Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata International Syst S/A Metasys Tecnologia Software Engineer Metasys MeeGo Team leonar...@metasys.com.br +55-31-3503-9040 May the force be with you, always Nerd Pride... eu tenho. Voce tem? ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
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On 09/28/2011 08:14 PM, Ian Lawrence wrote: Hi, I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance. This can also be done using something like PhoneGap (http://docs.phonegap.com/) which exposes native mobile device apis and data to JavaScript. It builds for Android, iOS, Blackberry, Symbian, WebOS and Bada through an automated build system (https://build.phonegap.com/) which is currently in Beta but which seems to be stable enough to at least get get you started on building cross platform mobile apps Regards why we using something like this, for example, phonegap in bada system, just start a new bada app which then running HTML app on this, we still using this tech? I am sad about this approach. Thanks Steven Liu --- Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying attachment(s) is intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may be confidential and/or privileged of Neusoft Corporation, its subsidiaries and/or its affiliates. If any reader of this communication is not the intended recipient, unauthorized use, forwarding, printing, storing, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful.If you have received this communication in error,please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail, and delete the original message and all copies from your system. Thank you. --- ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...
Den 29-09-2011 00:46, Clint Christopher Cañada skrev: It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening. Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)? You've got to have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development. Got the same feeling here In short why ? Is this a way to make further distance from Nokia (Qt) via a rebranding ? Is it because you feel that MeeGo is getting nowehere (even though real units has seen the light of day) and that LiMo has a better chance (better support from hardware manufacturers) ? Is it Intel ? What does the Genivi Alliance have to say ? And why this secrecy ? Also it does sound a bit like Tizen will be LiMo-based Live long and prosper... ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines