[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Sousou, Imad
By now, you may have read that The Linux Foundation, with the support of 
several other companies, announced a new project, Tizenhttps://tizen.org/, to 
build a new operating system for devices. This new project is first and 
foremost open source, and based on Linux. So it begs the question: why not just 
evolve MeeGo? We believe the future belongs to HTML5-based applications, 
outside of a relatively small percentage of apps, and we are firmly convinced 
that our investment needs to shift toward HTML5. Shifting to HTML5 doesn't just 
mean slapping a web runtime on an existing Linux, even one aimed at mobile, as 
MeeGo has been. Emphasizing HTML5 means that APIs not visible to HTML5 
programmers need not be as rigid, and can evolve with platform technology and 
can vary by market segment.

Granted, this is a judgment on our part on which reasonable people could 
disagree, but that's the conclusion I came to.

But in the new project, a lot of things will be the same as they were in the 
MeeGo project. The Tizen project will reside within the Linux Foundation, will 
be governed by a Technical Steering Group, and will be developed openly with 
familiar and improved infrastructure. Much like MeeGo, the Tizen project will 
support multiple device categories, including Tablets, Netbooks, Handsets, 
Smart TV, and In-Vehicle Infotainment systems.

Over the next couple of months, we will be working very hard to make sure that 
users of MeeGo can easily transition to Tizen, and I will be working even 
harder to make sure that developers of MeeGo can also transition to Tizen.

I want to personally thank everyone who has participated in MeeGo over the past 
year and a half, and I encourage you to join us at Tizen.orghttp://Tizen.org. 
We hope to use what we learned from the MeeGo project to make Tizen successful, 
and I hope to see you participating in Tizen!

Imad
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 07:30, Sousou, Imad imad.sou...@intel.com wrote:
 Granted, this is a judgment on our part on which reasonable people could 
 disagree, but that's the conclusion I came to.

I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an
HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance. Tell
me how it will do crypto certificates (in Javascript?).

Java also won't go away.

The OS I want is one that can leverage all existing apps, Java ME,
native linux, or yes, even HTML5, but does not engage in religious
evangelism of one API over another.

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
 Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for
 instance 

Something like this I guess:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 08:03, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote:
 Something like this I guess:

 http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

 http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/

 Ross

Let's re-do everything Java ME has done, with ugly interpreted Javascript...
Yay...

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Ian Lawrence
Hi,

 I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an
 HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance.

This can also be done using something like PhoneGap
(http://docs.phonegap.com/) which exposes native mobile device apis
and data to JavaScript. It builds for Android, iOS, Blackberry,
Symbian, WebOS and Bada through an automated build system
(https://build.phonegap.com/) which is currently in Beta but which
seems to be stable enough to at least get get you started on building
cross platform mobile apps

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
  Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for
  instance

 Something like this I guess:

 http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

 http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/



Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams into
HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or how you
connect the hardware to the operating system. While this answers the
question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera it doesn't obviate
the need for native drivers and modules to talk to the hardware, which was
partly the OP's point.

Regards,

Jeremiah




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[MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!

2011-09-28 Thread Florent Viard
Hi,

From where come the decision of switching to tizen? MeeGo guideline
was supposed to be driven by open governance and meetings open to
everyone, what does this mean to switch like that without asking to
people of the community?

Who is the stupid guy that though that switching everything to HTML5
was the future? Someone coming from the wonderful failure that is the
google chromeOS project?

I don't say that adding an additional support for html5 apps in MeeGo
is not good. But today, you have a system that start to become usable
and to have its brand well known and you trash all of this in one day
without discussion?

Tell the truth, Tizen is an hostile action against MeeGo that is a
serious concurrent to LiMo that is currently nothing. Without Tizen,
Limo project would have been dead in few time as there is nothing and
no one is willing to use it.

Anyway, my MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE:
Tizen looks like to be more a takeover against the open governance of MeeGo.


Just compare the governance of the two projects as stated in the
about pages of each one:
MEEGO:

Governance
MeeGo™ is an open source project created by merging the Moblin and
Maemo software platforms, and is led by the MeeGo Technical Steering
Group (TSG). The governance model is based on meritocracy and the best
practices and values of the Open Source culture. The MeeGo project
lives under the auspices of the Linux Foundation.

MeeGo is open to all contributors
There are no admission processes, contracts, or membership fees for
MeeGo, just your desire to join the project and contribute.


TIZEN: https://www.tizen.org/community

Anyone can contribute by:

Submitting patches
Filing bugs
Developing applications
Helping with wiki documentation
Participating in other community efforts and programs

Membership in most project teams (Release Engineering, QA, Program
Management, etc.) is invite-only and will mainly be open to people at
companies who are building products based on Tizen. However, Community
Office, Localization, and some Middleware development teams will be
open to participation on a merit basis.

Compare the: open to all contributors to the invite-only to companies.

So, If you are not working at Intel or Samsung, the only part that you
will be able to take in this project is to fill bugs and dev apps.

Question: How the linux foundation legitimate a project that is not
based on open governance and transparency?


To anyone, please show here your agreement if you share the same
feelings ! And don't legitimate this takeover!


Florent
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jonathan Casagrande
I'm very sad about Meego, when I start to read  I thought that Meego will be
a different distribution, different of default(Android, iOs, or WP7), but
let's see this Tizen, I hope that Tizen be better and more comercial than
Meego

2011/9/28 Jeremiah Foster jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com



 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
  Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for
  instance

 Something like this I guess:

 http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

 http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/



 Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams into
 HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or how you
 connect the hardware to the operating system. While this answers the
 question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera it doesn't obviate
 the need for native drivers and modules to talk to the hardware, which was
 partly the OP's point.

 Regards,

 Jeremiah




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Re: [MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!

2011-09-28 Thread Andrew Flegg
[Moving to 'meego-community']

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 13:35, Florent Viard fvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyway, my MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE:
 Tizen looks like to be more a takeover against the open governance of MeeGo.

Without commenting further on the merits of this, it's been obvious
for a long time (since the start of the project, maybe) that MeeGo's
open development  open governance was a promise (and its stated USP)
that it could not live up to.

The TSG are absent. There is no architectural discussion publicly.
There is no roadmap. There is no public discussion of specifications
for implementing new features.

Tizen's governance model recognises that Intel  LF could not achieve
this with MeeGo. LiMo's development to date has been closed by design.

This does raise the obvious question as to what Tizen's USP *is*,
since MeeGo's was its open development/open source compared with, say,
Android's closed development/open source. Tizen seems to be the same
governance as Android, with no UI; no framework; no apps. The promise
is of HTML5 apps; but then why would a vendor use Tizen as the base
rather than Android, or Windows - both of which also target HTML5
apps.

Cheers,

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi Florent,

Your frustration is understandable, but somewhat misplaced. It is entirely
okay to change the branding and governance of MeeGo, or any project. Open
Source licenses say nothing about project governance as long as the licenses
are respected. Much of MeeGo is under an Open Source license so it is
completely okay to make this change to Tizen, even if it discomfits
developers.

If you want more control over how your contributions are used, I'd recommend
using a strong copyleft license when you contribute software, like the GPL.
You may also want to contribute to truly open projects that have a clear
governance model and a proven track record of transparency. A project like
GNU, Debian, or Fedora for example might be more to your liking.

Regards,

Jeremiah

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Florent Viard fvi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 From where come the decision of switching to tizen? MeeGo guideline
 was supposed to be driven by open governance and meetings open to
 everyone, what does this mean to switch like that without asking to
 people of the community?

 Who is the stupid guy that though that switching everything to HTML5
 was the future? Someone coming from the wonderful failure that is the
 google chromeOS project?

 I don't say that adding an additional support for html5 apps in MeeGo
 is not good. But today, you have a system that start to become usable
 and to have its brand well known and you trash all of this in one day
 without discussion?

 Tell the truth, Tizen is an hostile action against MeeGo that is a
 serious concurrent to LiMo that is currently nothing. Without Tizen,
 Limo project would have been dead in few time as there is nothing and
 no one is willing to use it.

 Anyway, my MAIN CONCERN IS ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE:
 Tizen looks like to be more a takeover against the open governance of
 MeeGo.


 Just compare the governance of the two projects as stated in the
 about pages of each one:
 MEEGO:
 
 Governance
 MeeGo™ is an open source project created by merging the Moblin and
 Maemo software platforms, and is led by the MeeGo Technical Steering
 Group (TSG). The governance model is based on meritocracy and the best
 practices and values of the Open Source culture. The MeeGo project
 lives under the auspices of the Linux Foundation.

 MeeGo is open to all contributors
 There are no admission processes, contracts, or membership fees for
 MeeGo, just your desire to join the project and contribute.
 

 TIZEN: https://www.tizen.org/community
 
 Anyone can contribute by:

 Submitting patches
 Filing bugs
 Developing applications
 Helping with wiki documentation
 Participating in other community efforts and programs

 Membership in most project teams (Release Engineering, QA, Program
 Management, etc.) is invite-only and will mainly be open to people at
 companies who are building products based on Tizen. However, Community
 Office, Localization, and some Middleware development teams will be
 open to participation on a merit basis.
 
 Compare the: open to all contributors to the invite-only to companies.

 So, If you are not working at Intel or Samsung, the only part that you
 will be able to take in this project is to fill bugs and dev apps.

 Question: How the linux foundation legitimate a project that is not
 based on open governance and transparency?


 To anyone, please show here your agreement if you share the same
 feelings ! And don't legitimate this takeover!


 Florent
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 15:31, Jeremiah Foster
jeremiah.fos...@pelagicore.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
  Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for
  instance

 Something like this I guess:

 http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

 http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/

 Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams into
 HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or how you
 connect the hardware to the operating system. While this answers the
 question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera it doesn't obviate
 the need for native drivers and modules to talk to the hardware, which was
 partly the OP's point.
It also doesn't answer what would you be able to do with the content
you get from camera and audio samples. There are some examples on how
you could achieve computational photography and audio processing tasks
in Javascript but that is still in early infant stages. One will need
to make native modules (to what? to JS engine?) to be able to process
those using all power of the device in question.

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread S. Howard
The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted 
languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled 
languages such as C/Python.


On 28/09/2011 13:31, Jeremiah Foster wrote:



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Ross Burton r...@linux.intel.com 
mailto:r...@linux.intel.com wrote:


On Wed, 2011-09-28 tel:2011-09-28 at 07:57 -0300, Fernando
Cassia wrote:
 Tell me how an HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps
device, for
 instance

Something like this I guess:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

http://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/



Those documents only show how you pass audio, media, and other streams 
into HTML. It doesn't describe how you actually drive the hardware or 
how you connect the hardware to the operating system. While this 
answers the question how will an HTML5 app interface with a camera 
it doesn't obviate the need for native drivers and modules to talk to 
the hardware, which was partly the OP's point.


Regards,

Jeremiah


Ross
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howard howa...@gmx.co.uk wrote:
 The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted
 languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled
 languages such as C/Python.

Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted.

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Si Howard

My bad, I meant C/C++.

Cheers,

Si.

On 28/09/2011 22:11, Jeremiah Foster wrote:

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howardhowa...@gmx.co.uk  wrote:

The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted
languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled
languages such as C/Python.

Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted.

Regards,

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] WTF is Tizen !?!?! A takeover on MeeGo open governance!

2011-09-28 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi,

On 28 September 2011 14:05, Florent Viard fvi...@gmail.com wrote:


 By the way, confirmation that Tizen is LiMo and that the goal was just
 to kill MeeGo to avoid a strong concurrent:

 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2011/09/limo-foundation-and-linux-foundation-announce-new-open-source-softw

 Tizen combines the best open source technologies from LiMo and The
 Linux Foundation and adds a robust and flexible standards-based HTML5
 and WAC web development environment within which device-independent
 applications can be produced efficiently for unconstrained
 cross-platform deployment.


It's probably misleading to call it LiMo. For one view of what's going on,
take a look at http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/archives/001574.html - it
may clear up some misconceptions about Tizen. It may also be entirely wrong,
but I've been watching this closely for a while so let's see how events pan
out.


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Clint Christopher Cañada
I do agree with the sentiment though.  I've personally done some 
programming apps in android using an open framework that uses html and 
javascript but, although it does provide access to hardware, like gps, 
the camera and media, for more advanced functionality, you'd have to go 
back to adding that functionality through java.  HTML/js is good for 
rapid deployment, however, nothing beats C and other compiled languages.


It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening.  Burned me once, 
that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking 
about Meego in some other engagements)?  You've got to have a pretty 
good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development.


Cheers,
Clint

On 9/29/2011 6:30 AM, Si Howard wrote:

My bad, I meant C/C++.

Cheers,

Si.

On 28/09/2011 22:11, Jeremiah Foster wrote:

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howardhowa...@gmx.co.uk  wrote:

The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted
languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled
languages such as C/Python.

Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted.

Regards,

Jeremiah



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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
Burned me once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time
(after speaking about Meego in some other engagements)?  You've got to
have a pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development.

+one with the same feeling.


2011/9/28 Clint Christopher Cañada clint...@ostalks.com:
 I do agree with the sentiment though.  I've personally done some programming
 apps in android using an open framework that uses html and javascript but,
 although it does provide access to hardware, like gps, the camera and media,
 for more advanced functionality, you'd have to go back to adding that
 functionality through java.  HTML/js is good for rapid deployment, however,
 nothing beats C and other compiled languages.

 It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening.  Burned me once,
 that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after speaking about
 Meego in some other engagements)?  You've got to have a pretty good reason
 why I'm gonna trust this new development.

 Cheers,
 Clint

 On 9/29/2011 6:30 AM, Si Howard wrote:

 My bad, I meant C/C++.

 Cheers,

 Si.

 On 28/09/2011 22:11, Jeremiah Foster wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:42 PM, S. Howard howa...@gmx.co.uk wrote:

 The APIs only show media streams being parsed through HTML. Interpreted
 languages are still developing and can sill be surpassed by compiled
 languages such as C/Python.

 Eh? Python is not compiled, it is interpreted.

 Regards,

 Jeremiah


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Steven



On 09/28/2011 08:14 PM, Ian Lawrence wrote:

Hi,


I disagree. The need of native apps will never go away. Tell me how an
HTML5 app will interface to a camera or gps device, for instance.

This can also be done using something like PhoneGap
(http://docs.phonegap.com/) which exposes native mobile device apis
and data to JavaScript. It builds for Android, iOS, Blackberry,
Symbian, WebOS and Bada through an automated build system
(https://build.phonegap.com/) which is currently in Beta but which
seems to be stable enough to at least get get you started on building
cross platform mobile apps

Regards

why we using something like this, for example,  phonegap in bada system, 
just start a new bada app which then running HTML app on this, we still 
using this tech?

I am sad about this approach.

Thanks

Steven Liu
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo...

2011-09-28 Thread Peter Jespersen

Den 29-09-2011 00:46, Clint Christopher Cañada skrev:
It's kinda disappointing though with what's happening.  Burned me 
once, that's ok, burned me twice, fine, but the third time (after 
speaking about Meego in some other engagements)?  You've got to have a 
pretty good reason why I'm gonna trust this new development.


Got the same feeling here

In short why ?

Is this a way to make further distance from Nokia (Qt) via a rebranding ?

Is it because you feel that MeeGo is getting nowehere (even though real 
units has seen the light of day) and that LiMo has a better chance 
(better support from hardware manufacturers) ?


Is it Intel ?

What does the Genivi Alliance have to say ?

And why this secrecy ?

Also it does sound a bit like Tizen will be LiMo-based


Live long and prosper...

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