Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-09 Thread Dave Neary


Ville M. Vainio wrote:
 On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote:
 This has been discussed - and agreed before - but the changes never
 seemed to happen :-(
 
 I think the agreed approach now is to educate rather than fix.

I think you mean the approach being adopted - agreed implies, well,
agreement :)

Cheers,
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-09 Thread Foster, Dawn M

On May 7, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote:

 On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 05:56, Randall Arnold tex...@ovi.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 16:31 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 07:20 -0700, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
 
 Please post future application development questions to meego-sdk.
 
 Ah sorry. I thought meego-sdk is for the development of the SDK... I
 think I made that mistake before. Somehow the name is not very
 intuitive :)
 
 I have to agree with Conny.  Maybe a rename to meego-app would make more
 sense...
 
 This has been discussed - and agreed before - but the changes never
 seemed to happen :-(
 

The suggestion to rename the mailing lists was discussed but never
agreed to. I, for one, don't believe that renaming the list will solve the 
problem for reasons already discussed. To refresh your memory :)
http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-December/002922.html

Dawn

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-07 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 05:56, Randall Arnold tex...@ovi.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 16:31 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 07:20 -0700, Foster, Dawn M wrote:

 Please post future application development questions to meego-sdk.

 Ah sorry. I thought meego-sdk is for the development of the SDK... I
 think I made that mistake before. Somehow the name is not very
 intuitive :)

 I have to agree with Conny.  Maybe a rename to meego-app would make more
 sense...

This has been discussed - and agreed before - but the changes never
seemed to happen :-(

Cheers,

Andrew

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-07 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org wrote:

 I have to agree with Conny.  Maybe a rename to meego-app would make more
 sense...

 This has been discussed - and agreed before - but the changes never
 seemed to happen :-(

I think the agreed approach now is to educate rather than fix.
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[MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi,

in my C++/QML application I want to lock the screen orientation to
portrait mode. How I can I do that? There was a thread about this a
month ago but without clear answer.

I've got working solutions for Maemo5 and Symbian and now I'm testing on
MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 on ExoPC.

For MeeGo I'm using Qt::WA_LockPortraitOrientation which was included in
Qt 4.7.2. Should it work? Are there other options?

Thanks!
Conny




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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
 Hi,

 in my C++/QML application I want to lock the screen orientation to
 portrait mode. How I can I do that? There was a thread about this a
 month ago but without clear answer.

The spec says there should be orientationLock:

http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCOMPONENTS-373

Apparently, there isn't, file a bug :).

 For MeeGo I'm using Qt::WA_LockPortraitOrientation which was included in
 Qt 4.7.2. Should it work? Are there other options?

Those only work on Symbian AFAICT.
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:42 +0300, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
 The spec says there should be orientationLock:
 
 http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCOMPONENTS-373
 
 Apparently, there isn't, file a bug :).

Hmm, you're revering to Qt Compontents. I don't use them, so I'd need a
pure Qt solution.

  For MeeGo I'm using Qt::WA_LockPortraitOrientation which was included in
  Qt 4.7.2. Should it work? Are there other options?
 
 Those only work on Symbian AFAICT.

To me it looks like that API would be the way to go.
Also interesting if I use the QML/C++ Wizzard in MeeGo SDKs Qt Creator,
it creates code using this API.

I'll file a bug.

Thanks!
Conny


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
Bug filed:
https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17200

Cheers,
Conny

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:02 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:42 +0300, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
  The spec says there should be orientationLock:
  
  http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCOMPONENTS-373
  
  Apparently, there isn't, file a bug :).
 
 Hmm, you're revering to Qt Compontents. I don't use them, so I'd need a
 pure Qt solution.
 
   For MeeGo I'm using Qt::WA_LockPortraitOrientation which was included in
   Qt 4.7.2. Should it work? Are there other options?
  
  Those only work on Symbian AFAICT.
 
 To me it looks like that API would be the way to go.
 Also interesting if I use the QML/C++ Wizzard in MeeGo SDKs Qt Creator,
 it creates code using this API.
 
 I'll file a bug.
 
 Thanks!
 Conny
 
 
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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 13:02:38, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:42 +0300, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
  The spec says there should be orientationLock:
 
  http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCOMPONENTS-373
 
  Apparently, there isn't, file a bug :).

 Hmm, you're revering to Qt Compontents. I don't use them, so I'd need a
 pure Qt solution.

   For MeeGo I'm using Qt::WA_LockPortraitOrientation which was
   included in Qt 4.7.2. Should it work? Are there other options?
 
  Those only work on Symbian AFAICT.

 To me it looks like that API would be the way to go.
 Also interesting if I use the QML/C++ Wizzard in MeeGo SDKs Qt Creator,
 it creates code using this API.

The WA things work by telling the window manager what to do. On MeeGo, with
mcompositor, the window manager doesn't do anything (or didn't use to).

It's the application that drew itself 90° rotated. That means pure Qt apps
simply don't rotate unless you write the rotation code itself. If you're using
MTF classes, this is implemented there though.

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:25 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
 The WA things work by telling the window manager what to do. On MeeGo, with 
 mcompositor, the window manager doesn't do anything (or didn't use to).
 
 It's the application that drew itself 90° rotated. That means pure Qt apps 
 simply don't rotate unless you write the rotation code itself. If you're 
 using 
 MTF classes, this is implemented there though.

Thanks for the explanation. But what is the solution?
I don't think each app developer wants to write his/her own rotation
code (I certainly don't). And MTF is deprecated.

What am I missing?

Thanks!
Conny


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:30 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:25 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
  The WA things work by telling the window manager what to do. On MeeGo, with 
  mcompositor, the window manager doesn't do anything (or didn't use to).
  
  It's the application that drew itself 90° rotated. That means pure Qt apps 
  simply don't rotate unless you write the rotation code itself. If you're 
  using 
  MTF classes, this is implemented there though.
 
 Thanks for the explanation. But what is the solution?
 I don't think each app developer wants to write his/her own rotation
 code (I certainly don't). And MTF is deprecated.
 
 What am I missing?

I thought I'll try a workaround and use MTF only for rotation.
Unfortunately it looks like that's not that easy since MWindow and
QWidget are not quite compatible.

I really hope we get some framework support for that.

Cheers,
Conny


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 14:46:15, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
 I thought I'll try a workaround and use MTF only for rotation.
 Unfortunately it looks like that's not that easy since MWindow and
 QWidget are not quite compatible.

 I really hope we get some framework support for that.

You're using QWidget?

Then I'm sorry, there's no good rotation practice within Qt. You need help
from the window manager / compositor and mcompositor won't do that for you.

The only way to do this from inside the application is to do it manually by
placing the widget inside a QGraphicsProxyWidget and then rotate the graphics
view. This is extremely slow and not recommended.

Actually, using QWidget is not recommended.

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:05 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
 Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 14:46:15, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
  I thought I'll try a workaround and use MTF only for rotation.
  Unfortunately it looks like that's not that easy since MWindow and
  QWidget are not quite compatible.
  
  I really hope we get some framework support for that.
 
 You're using QWidget?

I'm using QDeclarativeView as my root widget, which is a QWidget. How
else could I use QML? Can I somehow use QML without QDeclarativeView?

 Then I'm sorry, there's no good rotation practice within Qt. You need help 
 from the window manager / compositor and mcompositor won't do that for you.
 
 The only way to do this from inside the application is to do it manually by 
 placing the widget inside a QGraphicsProxyWidget and then rotate the graphics 
 view. This is extremely slow and not recommended.
 
 Actually, using QWidget is not recommended.

Wouldn't a work-around be to rotate my root QML item? If yes, where do I
get the physical orientation of the device from? Is there Qt API for
that?

Thanks for bearing with me.
Conny


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield



On Fri, 6 May 2011, Thiago Macieira wrote:


You're using QWidget?

Then I'm sorry, there's no good rotation practice within Qt. You need help
from the window manager / compositor and mcompositor won't do that for you.

The only way to do this from inside the application is to do it manually by
placing the widget inside a QGraphicsProxyWidget and then rotate the graphics
view. This is extremely slow and not recommended.

Actually, using QWidget is not recommended.


What is recommended?

-gabriel

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 15:16:32, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:05 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
  Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 14:46:15, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
   I thought I'll try a workaround and use MTF only for rotation.
   Unfortunately it looks like that's not that easy since MWindow and
   QWidget are not quite compatible.
  
   I really hope we get some framework support for that.
 
  You're using QWidget?

 I'm using QDeclarativeView as my root widget, which is a QWidget. How
 else could I use QML? Can I somehow use QML without QDeclarativeView?

Ah, no problem then. But you need to get the sensors information from the
Mobility Sensors and apply the transform yourself and animate however you
want.

Components (both of them) do it for you.

 Wouldn't a work-around be to rotate my root QML item? If yes, where do I
 get the physical orientation of the device from? Is there Qt API for
 that?

Yes, use the Sensors.

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Robin Burchell
On 6 May 2011 14:16, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote:
 Wouldn't a work-around be to rotate my root QML item? If yes, where do I
 get the physical orientation of the device from? Is there Qt API for
 that?

AFAIR this is basically what Components implementations do, yes. Qt
Mobility has an API for this. Take a look at QOrientationSensor

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Dumez, Christophe
Hi,

You can use QtMobility::QOrientation sensor.
Example code there: 
http://cdumez.blogspot.com/2010/12/screen-orientation-detection-for-qml.html

Kr,
Chris.

-Original Message-
From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On 
Behalf Of Cornelius Hald
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:17 PM
To: Thiago Macieira
Cc: meego-dev@meego.com
Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:05 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
 Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 14:46:15, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
  I thought I'll try a workaround and use MTF only for rotation.
  Unfortunately it looks like that's not that easy since MWindow and
  QWidget are not quite compatible.
  
  I really hope we get some framework support for that.
 
 You're using QWidget?

I'm using QDeclarativeView as my root widget, which is a QWidget. How
else could I use QML? Can I somehow use QML without QDeclarativeView?

 Then I'm sorry, there's no good rotation practice within Qt. You need help 
 from the window manager / compositor and mcompositor won't do that for you.
 
 The only way to do this from inside the application is to do it manually by 
 placing the widget inside a QGraphicsProxyWidget and then rotate the graphics 
 view. This is extremely slow and not recommended.
 
 Actually, using QWidget is not recommended.

Wouldn't a work-around be to rotate my root QML item? If yes, where do I
get the physical orientation of the device from? Is there Qt API for
that?

Thanks for bearing with me.
Conny


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:21 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
 Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 15:16:32, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
  On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:05 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
   Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 14:46:15, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
I thought I'll try a workaround and use MTF only for rotation.
Unfortunately it looks like that's not that easy since MWindow and
QWidget are not quite compatible.

I really hope we get some framework support for that.
   
   You're using QWidget?
  
  I'm using QDeclarativeView as my root widget, which is a QWidget. How
  else could I use QML? Can I somehow use QML without QDeclarativeView?
 
 Ah, no problem then. But you need to get the sensors information from the 
 Mobility Sensors and apply the transform yourself and animate however you 
 want.
 
 Components (both of them) do it for you.
 
  Wouldn't a work-around be to rotate my root QML item? If yes, where do I
  get the physical orientation of the device from? Is there Qt API for
  that?
 
 Yes, use the Sensors.

Alright. I'll look into this over the weekend. Let's see how I can do
that in a way compatible with Maemo5 and Symbian.

Thanks Thiago, Robin and Christophe!
Conny


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Foster, Dawn M

On May 6, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Cornelius Hald wrote:

 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:21 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
 Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 15:16:32, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:05 +0200, Thiago Macieira wrote:
 Em Friday, 6 de May de 2011, às 14:46:15, Cornelius Hald escreveu:
 I thought I'll try a workaround and use MTF only for rotation.
 Unfortunately it looks like that's not that easy since MWindow and
 QWidget are not quite compatible.
 
 I really hope we get some framework support for that.
 
 You're using QWidget?
 
 I'm using QDeclarativeView as my root widget, which is a QWidget. How
 else could I use QML? Can I somehow use QML without QDeclarativeView?
 
 Ah, no problem then. But you need to get the sensors information from the 
 Mobility Sensors and apply the transform yourself and animate however you 
 want.
 
 Components (both of them) do it for you.
 
 Wouldn't a work-around be to rotate my root QML item? If yes, where do I
 get the physical orientation of the device from? Is there Qt API for
 that?
 
 Yes, use the Sensors.
 
 Alright. I'll look into this over the weekend. Let's see how I can do
 that in a way compatible with Maemo5 and Symbian.
 

Quick reminder that meego-dev is for questions about development of the 
MeeGo distribution, not application development. Application development
questions should be in meego-sdk, which is where the people working on 
the sdk, apis and other application development participate. 

Please post future application development questions to meego-sdk.

Also see:
http://wiki.meego.com/Community_communication
http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines

Regards,
Dawn



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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 07:20 -0700, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
 Quick reminder that meego-dev is for questions about development of the 
 MeeGo distribution, not application development. Application development
 questions should be in meego-sdk, which is where the people working on 
 the sdk, apis and other application development participate. 
 
 Please post future application development questions to meego-sdk.

Ah sorry. I thought meego-sdk is for the development of the SDK... I
think I made that mistake before. Somehow the name is not very
intuitive :)

Anyways, thanks for the reminder.
Conny


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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Howto lock screen orientation in MeeGo/Tablet 1.2 ?

2011-05-06 Thread Randall Arnold
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 16:31 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote:

 On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 07:20 -0700, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
  Quick reminder that meego-dev is for questions about development of the 
  MeeGo distribution, not application development. Application development
  questions should be in meego-sdk, which is where the people working on 
  the sdk, apis and other application development participate. 
  
  Please post future application development questions to meego-sdk.
 
 Ah sorry. I thought meego-sdk is for the development of the SDK... I
 think I made that mistake before. Somehow the name is not very
 intuitive :)


I have to agree with Conny.  Maybe a rename to meego-app would make more
sense...

Randy
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