[MBZ] W123 wagon in new comedy movie
Just saw a movie preview on TV tonight. It stars that guy from The Office and 40 Year Old Virgin (two things that I have successfully avoided seeing). We had the sound muted, but they focused in on a close shot of a TE or TD for such a period of time that it looked like the scene was calling attention to the car. Then they showed the car a couple other times in the preview. The premise of the movie is something to do with a Dad - probably portraying him as out of touch and lame but with a good heart. (how novel) The wagon is that factory orange color. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
After much chiseling, and some tracing, I think I found the genesis of this generator's general grunge. (Hey, _you_ try to find a 'g' word that's better!) The small diode bridge has every diode blown, shorted, and its feed trace gone too. Perhaps it's the shorted 'protective' MOV on its output? Of course, now it has other problems! Me and my chisel... Bad design. If you're going to use a MOV, a wear component, put it where it can be replaced. And fuse the circuit too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
There is one for sale that you can find in the Craigslist posting sent by Clay. Here's the url: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/431419769.html Rear end damage. Don't know if it's a good deal or not, just noticed it. Brian On 9/25/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb: I'm in Evansville, IN. Gotta settle with the insurance (through the other driver's) and don't want to promise anything yet. I do need another 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
Open circuit voltage of 12.5 indicates a good batery. 13.7 volts would have been voltage with alternator charging ( nor a few seconds afterwards ). Need to keep an eye on why the electrolite levels are dropping though. PEter -Original Message- From: archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 September 2007 02:34 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto WARNING! If you buy an Autocraft Titanium battery be sure and check the cells electrolyte levels before installing. I stopped in an Advance Auto store to buy ATF on a Sunday evening about two months ago. The car wouldn't start when I left so I bought one of their Titanium A batteries. Saturday I serviced the car and checked the electrolyte levels in the battery. Two cells were dry and it required two to three ounces of distilled water to bring them up to the correct level. The other cells sp.gr. was in the red zone 11.50-11.75. After driving two days, the two cells I had added water to were still in the red zone but the other cells had come up almost to normal. I suspect these two cells were damaged by driving it two months with very low electrolyte. No one at Advanced Auto had ever heard of checking the sp.gr. or had any knowledge of what it meant, and they refused to give me a new battery. I checked the voltage when I serviced the car on Saturday and it was 13.7 volts. I checked it today and it was only 12.5 volts. I'm wondering if the battery might be drawing too much current and might have damaged the diodes in the alternator? Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
Thanks, not a bad idea , what about raising the rear wheels and running car and looking underneath for issues? Peter -Original Message- From: Hendrik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2007 16:22 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration The easy test is to disconnect the prop shaft and then put the car in gear, if you still have a vibration then you know it is forward of the prop shaft. Peter Merle wrote: Mine has the 5 speed manual tranny. I still am suspecting the missing propshaft vibration damper. PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
It seems than at Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:18:06 -0700, Jim wrote: The small diode bridge has every diode blown, shorted, and its feed trace gone too. Perhaps it's the shorted 'protective' MOV on its output? Bad design. If you're going to use a MOV, a wear component, put it where it can be replaced. And fuse the circuit too. Yup. An MOV can work well. But to not plan for it to fail - and shorted _is_ it's most common failure mode - is as silly as a paperclip instead of a fuse in the fuse box!! It would seem to me you have found the problem. So, are you planning to rebuild the original? Or build your own, now that you have figured out how it functions? Or locate an off-the-shelf regulator that will do the job? Curious minds want to know -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 W210 E300D diesel leak
Thanks for the reply Ned ! 360k !! WOW ! Is that without any rebuilds ? VIK MOMJIAN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stretch measurement Om60x
I know its probably been described to death , but how does the timing chain stretch measurement on the OM60x differ from the OM617 engines? , - can one view the crank position at the front pulley? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
Only two of the six battery cells were 'way low on electrolyte. I think they were not filled at the factory. Haven't been low since I filled them with water but their specific gravity is lower than the other four cells. Beginning to think that the alternator is charging only some of the time. Since this is an old alternator, think I'll order a new one; or at least new diodes; from Rusty. Thanks, Peter. Gerry - Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open circuit voltage of 12.5 indicates a good batery. 13.7 volts would have been voltage with alternator charging ( nor a few seconds afterwards ). Need to keep an eye on why the electrolite levels are dropping though. PEter -Original Message- From: archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WARNING! If you buy an Autocraft Titanium battery be sure and check the cells electrolyte levels before installing. I stopped in an Advance Auto store to buy ATF on a Sunday evening about two months ago. The car wouldn't start when I left so I bought one of their Titanium A batteries. Saturday I serviced the car and checked the electrolyte levels in the battery. Two cells were dry and it required two to three ounces of distilled water to bring them up to the correct level. The other cells sp.gr. was in the red zone 11.50-11.75. After driving two days, the two cells I had added water to were still in the red zone but the other cells had come up almost to normal. I suspect these two cells were damaged by driving it two months with very low electrolyte. No one at Advanced Auto had ever heard of checking the sp.gr. or had any knowledge of what it meant, and they refused to give me a new battery. I checked the voltage when I serviced the car on Saturday and it was 13.7 volts. I checked it today and it was only 12.5 volts. I'm wondering if the battery might be drawing too much current and might have damaged the diodes in the alternator? Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
Hard to determine vibration issues by just looking, also unless done properly can be dangerous. Mercedes does recommend that the bolts not be re used, although some do but I am not mentioning any names. - Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration Thanks, not a bad idea , what about raising the rear wheels and running car and looking underneath for issues? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE
I got a chance to test drive that 300TE that I got my eye on, seemed alright except for a real clunky 4-3 shift. You know when you are cruising along and give it a bootfull, usually the downshift should be smooth but in this car it is real neck snapping clunky. I am guessing something is a bit sticky in the box somewhere because all the other shifts are normal and as expected. Experience preferred but guesses accepted. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aerial autcrossing
Nope - I'm with you, though I have closer to 100 hours in a Citabria. Those guys are good. On 9/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish - though I doubt that a Citabria would be competitive in that race --- I wonder if they have Formula Vee category -- I hope you are not suggesting that you have the experience, skill and guts to fly like those pilots. As part of training to obtain my Commercial Pilot rating, I took a ten hour aerobatic course in a Citabria and I freely admit right here and now. No effing way. RLE -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
Only two of the six battery cells were 'way low on electrolyte. I think they were not filled at the factory. Haven't been low since I filled them with water but their specific gravity is lower than the other four cells. And you are assuming they had the correct amount of ACID put in at the factory, why? My guess is that you just diluted those two cells. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
So, are you planning to rebuild the original? Yes, assuming I haven't destroyed too many components with the chisel. There's a couple of resistors that are open-circuit now. One broke in half, another got a nice peel job, the ceramic case is gone off of one, etc. The two big heat-sinked pass elements are completely in parallel, and measure 0.7 ohms across their business ends. Could these be depletion-mode FET's? I've got no experience with these. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Detroit 1986 (?) 300d
That is a possibility --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL Detroit 1986 (?) 300d So it may not be a turbo? On 9/25/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, that appears to be a grey market car Rick Knoble wrote: The listing says '86, it appears to have Euro lights on it. Maybe it is grey market or something... http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/430984228.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 94 E320, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
I was driving by a minor wreck several years ago involving some teenagers driving a 240D. I REALLY wanted to stop and offer to buy it, but I refrained. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP OK, so we all heard about ambulance chasers, it seems we have a wreck chaser in our midst. I can just imagine it, Kaleb comes across a bad accident with people trapped in the wreckage and he says to the driver I'll give you 50 bucks for it, here is my card Talking about 124's, I finally worked up the courage to tell the missus that I am thinking of buying another car, just had to pick the right moment. Perhaps a few pics of the wrecked 300D will convince her that I need to spend 7.5 grand on an old station wagen. Funny how car dealers will negotiate when they realize that they are not talking to a know nothing. I had a chat to the fella who has serviced the car for the last couple of years and he reckons that it needs a fair bit of work to bring it up to excellent standard but most of the work I can do myself and the rest I'll just have to learn. One of the concerns is the auto climate control, I believe it works in conjunction with a couple of big relays to make everything work. Anyway negotiations are in progress and I'll try and organize a proper test drive to determine if I want to take the plunge on this complex beast which cost 120K in 89, you could have bought a very nice house for that sort of money. Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so where are you, want to sell it now? --- Kaleb C. Striplin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Detroit 1986 (?) 300d
how can you tell, there is no pic of the engine. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL Detroit 1986 (?) 300d Looks like it has a turbo. Also looks like there's damage to the drivers door. On 9/25/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it may not be a turbo? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 wagon in new comedy movie
If you recall, I posted about this preview about a month ago. The movie is called I think Dan in real life or something like that. The preview I saw featured that 280TE quite a bit. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] W123 wagon in new comedy movie Just saw a movie preview on TV tonight. It stars that guy from The Office and 40 Year Old Virgin (two things that I have successfully avoided seeing). We had the sound muted, but they focused in on a close shot of a TE or TD for such a period of time that it looked like the scene was calling attention to the car. Then they showed the car a couple other times in the preview. The premise of the movie is something to do with a Dad - probably portraying him as out of touch and lame but with a good heart. (how novel) The wagon is that factory orange color. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stretch measurement Om60x
Its is the same procedure. yes, you can see the crank position --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:20 AM Subject: [MBZ] Stretch measurement Om60x I know its probably been described to death , but how does the timing chain stretch measurement on the OM60x differ from the OM617 engines? , - can one view the crank position at the front pulley? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE
Probably worn flex disks. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:50 AM Subject: [MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE I got a chance to test drive that 300TE that I got my eye on, seemed alright except for a real clunky 4-3 shift. You know when you are cruising along and give it a bootfull, usually the downshift should be smooth but in this car it is real neck snapping clunky. I am guessing something is a bit sticky in the box somewhere because all the other shifts are normal and as expected. Experience preferred but guesses accepted. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
Modern car batteries are fill forget. And because of this, the younger guys gals at the auto stores don't have a clue. They just test replace. I suspect that you purchased a battery that had been spilled or incorrectly filled and the problem probably did not occur at Advance Auto. The batteries are manufactured under contract are just branded with their name. It's also possible that your charging system is over charging the dry cells cooked off first. The timing is about right. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto Only two of the six battery cells were 'way low on electrolyte. I think they were not filled at the factory. Haven't been low since I filled them with water but their specific gravity is lower than the other four cells. And you are assuming they had the correct amount of ACID put in at the factory, why? My guess is that you just diluted those two cells. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Richard, I don't have enough knowledge about your particular model but do have a bit of general mechanical experience with a lot of different vehicles. Not being there to hear what the engine actually sounds like when it is turning over to hear if there are compression pulses when the starter is turning, I can come up with only three or four things that could have the starter turning the engine but not have the belt turning. 1. the flywheel has come disconnected from the crankshaft so that the starter is just turning the flywheel and nothing else. This might be the most likely as your wife said the car went slower till it rolled to a stop. You might ask if the engine was revving real fast but the car was still slowing down. That would seem to pin it down to this diagnosis. 2. the pulley on the front of the crankshaft has come loose so that while the crankshaft is turning the pulley and belt are not. On the road the engine temp would have gone up really high because the water pump was no longer turning and power would have dropped off and even though the accelerator was being pushed harder the car and engine would have gone slower and slower till the engine locked up. The no start and faster starter turning could then be due to very low compression. 3. One of the accessory items driven by the belt is locked up keeping the belt from turning but the crank pulley is still turning. Unlikely as that should make some kind of noise unless the belt is really loose. The symptoms on the highway would probably be the same as for No 2. since the water pump would not be turning in this case also. 4. The crank is broken right at the back of the engine which would give the same effect as in # 1. There again not knowing too much about the history of the engine model I don't know if #1 or #4 is something that happens or has happened. Of course the crank could have broken at any place along it but that would have made some horrible noises as the pistons and valves collided. I have come across all 4 of these problems in other cars and while they are possibilities they are not necessarily what is wrong in your case. You would need to check to see if the pulley on the bottom front of the engine is actually turning. Check to see if cooling water was lost. Check to see if there is water in the oil, which might indicate overheating and cracking of a head or other overheating problem letting water into the crankcase. I would pull at least the front glow plug and then turn the engine over and see if you can here any air hissing out of the hole. It should be quite apparent even from the drivers seat as you crank the engine. Hope some of this helps, and my condolences on your dad's medical problems. Having lost my own father a while back in much the same way I know what you are going through. If he is at all still conscious, say the things you want to say now, don't wait. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
This is the hard line that runs all the way to the front? If so then the tech is correct. I'd suggest that you crimp with good clamps, like stainless steel Oetiker clamps. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:26 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidsc s=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help me decide
I've got/had all three. I think the 103 is better in a 124 body. The SDL is the world's most wonderful car. The 123 with a OM 616/617 is very reliable and inexpensive to operate. I'd RUN FAST away from a recently welded head. Unless you have a good head and don't mind changing it. At 12:04 PM 9/21/2007, you wrote: Gang, Recently transferred from Toronto to the SF Bay area for a couple of years. I'm trying to control myself as I look at all the car candy on craigslist and in local dealer lots. Although I am an MB diesel nutter, I have been tempted by the straight-6 300SE/L W126 machines. They seem to be plentiful and cheap. So far I've stuck to OM617 engines, and in fact to W123 models because they are simple and indestructible. Since my focus for the last 10+ years has been on diesel engines, I've not really paid attention to gassers, but it seems like the M103 engine is pretty good. I lust after a 300SDL (except the 3.5, obviously), but I'm afraid of all the trouble people seem to have with the OM603 engines, especially head cracks, failing tensioners, and engine management issues. I was talking to someone this a.m. who was selling an SDL. 170k.mi, $6k. The engine had overheated and a machine shop welded the head etc. Almost no mileage since the rebuild. I presume this approach will not last, and that there is trouble waiting in the wings on that car... So what's the deal? Is the M103 a good machine (as good as the venerable M110), or am I just as well with an OM603.961? D. PS: For torture, look at pics of the stunningly gorgeous W116 for sale on http://www.misterdiesel.com If only I could afford it... -- David Bruckmann, Palo Alto, CA Current Reality: 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) Piaf http://dolly.bruckmann.com/ Shady Past: 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km) 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km) Diva 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km) 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1984 MB 300TD (385,000 km) Gertraud 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 1986 Renault 9 1.7L (155,000 km) 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI (74,000 km) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
sounds to me that the lesson here is that junk is still junk and ought to be avoided, whatever the price. On 9/26/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, are you planning to rebuild the original? Yes, assuming I haven't destroyed too many components with the chisel. There's a couple of resistors that are open-circuit now. One broke in half, another got a nice peel job, the ceramic case is gone off of one, etc. The two big heat-sinked pass elements are completely in parallel, and measure 0.7 ohms across their business ends. Could these be depletion-mode FET's? I've got no experience with these. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
You can do it that way. Rusty can get you new lines as well. I ordered ones from Rusty for a 6.9 a while back. They should still be available. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:25 AM Subject: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What constitutes harmful overheating? 87 190D
Needle in the red zone is bad. Fix whatever cause the coolant loss, then watch for oil or gas in the coolant. The head, once it gets that hot (and it was MUCH hotter than the temp gauge) tends to crack, warp, or collapse. You will also likely get premature head gasket failure. The side of the highway is the best place. Scary, perhaps, but you have to balance inconvinience with replacing the head. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stretch measurement Om60x
The marks on the cam and tower are different -- right at the top as I remember. You read the crank position off the front pulley. If more than 4 degrees, replace chain. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mono-mania
Last night Jill informed me that the car's ACC seems to be heating too much, and that she turns on the AC to tame it. This time of year? Something's wrong. I pulled the monovalve and found signs of dried coolant in the spring washer, and its solenoid plunger was waterlogged. The seal diaphragm, however, isn't torn that I can see. I wonder what's up with that? I cleaned it out and put it back. (For reference, the assembly order of items into the body is plunger, small washer, spring washer, large washer, collar, and coil.) Y'know, I'd always thought that a waterlogged monovalve plunger was a sign of failure, but having taken it apart (and another one from the spares pile) it seems more to me like it's _supposed_ to be full of water. There's a weep hole from behind the screen into the plunger area, _through_ the plane of the diaphragm. If the intent is that the plunger fill with (screened) water resulting in water on both sides of the diaphragm, the passage of water through this hole as the plunger moves back and forth could serve to damp the physical motion of the plunger. It may be that the slow-scale PWM signal from the ACC system actually results in a fairly steady physical position of the valve rather than an on-off modulation of water flow. This would actually make some sense, but then I have no explanation for why a torn diaphragm results in loss of control of the valve. It ought only result in a leak. I guess we'll see if the cleanout has done anything helpful. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
I can't find one specific for an 89 300TE but here is the price of a 93 300TE 2.6 http://www.carsales.com.au/car-research/details.aspx?Cr=0__Ns=pCar_YearMade_Int32|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0__Nne=20seot=20trecs=1silo=1005Make=MERCEDESModel=300TE__N=1090+4294964559+281__sid=1141180EAB23R=cs19931116.09:07:29 MB have been fleecing the Oz buyers for years, - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP what kind of benz cost $120,000 in 1989? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] try again 99E300D, 87300TD for sale Houston
In the paper this morning. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
Patch or replace are both OK, as long as the line is decent except for the spots you are patching. If you replace it, or splice in new pipe, get some that isn't zinc galvanized on the inside, diesel and zinc don't mix well. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
Peter, Glad to hear you survived what could possibly have been much worse. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
You might also consider getting a 25' roll of copper tubing, it's easier to hand form. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What constitutes harmful overheating? 87 190D
seems it may be looming trouble. time to replace the head gasket now.clean the waterways and reface the head . regards mak - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What constitutes harmful overheating? 87 190D Needle in the red zone is bad. Fix whatever cause the coolant loss, then watch for oil or gas in the coolant. The head, once it gets that hot (and it was MUCH hotter than the temp gauge) tends to crack, warp, or collapse. You will also likely get premature head gasket failure. The side of the highway is the best place. Scary, perhaps, but you have to balance inconvinience with replacing the head. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1023 - Release Date: 9/22/2007 1:27 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 W210 E300D diesel leak
Thanks for the reply Ned ! 360k !! WOW ! Is that without any rebuilds ? VIK: No rebuilds on engine or transmission. Only things I recall replacing on the engine are the fuel injectors, glow plugs, vacuum pump, exhaust system with cat (ouch) and maybe water pump / belts / hoses type stuff. Nothing else except recommended maintenance items. Now the chassis - is a different story. It is starting to rust and having problems with the brakes, sunroof, air conditioning etc etc. Ned ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] try again 99E300D, 87300TD for sale Houston
WOW, thats a good deal --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] try again 99E300D, 87300TD for sale Houston In the paper this morning. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
You might also consider getting a 25' roll of copper tubing, it's easier to hand form. Diesel eats copper. Don't do this. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
sounds to me that the lesson here is that junk is still junk and ought to be avoided, whatever the price. If price was no object, I'd have bought a better one, new. Junk is often junk because of only a few weak places. Or so I've found. Sometimes you can correct them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing and you made it, way to go Peter. Harry On 9/26/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Glad to hear you survived what could possibly have been much worse. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
On 9/26/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't find one specific for an 89 300TE but here is the price of a 93 300TE 2.6 http://www.carsales.com.au/car-research/details.aspx?Cr=0__Ns=pCar_YearMade_Int32|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0__Nne=20seot=20trecs=1silo=1005Make=MERCEDESModel=300TE__N=1090+4294964559+281__sid=1141180EAB23R=cs19931116.09:07:29 MB have been fleecing the Oz buyers for years, - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP what kind of benz cost $120,000 in 1989? What was the exchange rate between Aussie dollars and USD in 1993? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
Gentlemen, thank you as always for your sage adivice. Tom, where would I be able to buy Oetiker clamps? Thanks, Fred --- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might also consider getting a 25' roll of copper tubing, it's easier to hand form. Diesel eats copper. Don't do this. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
You need a somewhat rigid tubing to hold up to the vacuum created by the lift pump on the engine. I've had good luck with Nylon-6 tubing from Mcmaster.com . I use a more flexible tubing to join the nylon to the existing metal in a butt-joint by covering both pieces and using spring clamps. I prefer spring clamps because they apply constant pressure as the metal tubing expands and contracts, and as the softer tubing deforms over time. When I've used worm-gear hose clamps, I've had to go back and tighten them up every year or so. If you don't overlap, use compression fittings. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
Those Oetiker clamps look good. I'll give them a try. Thanks Tom. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the hard line that runs all the way to the front? If so then the tech is correct. I'd suggest that you crimp with good clamps, like stainless steel Oetiker clamps. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:26 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidsc s=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] try again 99E300D, 87300TD for sale Houston
smartass -- let my msg with the scanned image of the ads through and everyone will be happy. Or maybe you already snapped them up? --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: WOW, thats a good deal --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] try again 99E300D, 87300TD for sale Houston In the paper this morning. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
I would be able to replace the complete line with Nylon 6 tubing if I follow your logic. I'd prefer this to patching. --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need a somewhat rigid tubing to hold up to the vacuum created by the lift pump on the engine. I've had good luck with Nylon-6 tubing from Mcmaster.com . I use a more flexible tubing to join the nylon to the existing metal in a butt-joint by covering both pieces and using spring clamps. I prefer spring clamps because they apply constant pressure as the metal tubing expands and contracts, and as the softer tubing deforms over time. When I've used worm-gear hose clamps, I've had to go back and tighten them up every year or so. If you don't overlap, use compression fittings. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
It is a good deal for the person willing to work the problems out. I suspect jim cathey will be able to find the parts to make it whole, where as I seem to only find really old parts cheap. clay On 25 Sep 2007, at 23:27, Zoltan Finks wrote: There is one for sale that you can find in the Craigslist posting sent by Clay. Here's the url: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/431419769.html Rear end damage. Don't know if it's a good deal or not, just noticed it. Brian On 9/25/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb: I'm in Evansville, IN. Gotta settle with the insurance (through the other driver's) and don't want to promise anything yet. I do need another 87 300D though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
- Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto Only two of the six battery cells were 'way low on electrolyte. I think they were not filled at the factory. Haven't been low since I filled them with water but their specific gravity is lower than the other four cells. And you are assuming they had the correct amount of ACID put in at the factory, why? My guess is that you just diluted those two cells. -- Jim No. After running it two months I assumed it was either too little acid or the cells were defective and running hot/boiling out the electrolyte or both. I don't know what the capacity of each cell is, so it's just a guess as to whether the electrolyte is low enough to cause a drop in sp.gr. If I had been using my head I would have taken it back to the store before adding water to the cells, but I'm glad I didn't because the manager refused to open the cells when I did take it back and refused to even talk about the cells being low on electrolyte. He said the batteries were sealed at the factory, they had the correct amount of electrolyte, and why did I think two were low? I told him I looked and knew they were low, and thought they had not put enough electrolyte in at the factory. He got nasty then and made a little speech about how this is the computer age and everything is tested electronically. He did a voltage and load test on the battery and said there was nothing wrong with it and he would not replace it. SoI wait until the battery goes bad and then take it back, I suppose. Discount Auto, a regional chain, was pretty cooperative about this sort of thing and I bought batteries and such from them for years. Then, after Advance Auto bought them out, I kept right on trading there; buying oil, ATF, etc. This little episode was informative. I deal with Autozone or NAPA from now on. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
Tom Hargrave wrote: Modern car batteries are fill forget. And because of this, the younger guys gals at the auto stores don't have a clue. They just test replace. Gerry: That seems to be the case, but some stores will give you the benefit of the doubt and let you show them why a part is defective. I suspect that you purchased a battery that had been spilled or incorrectly filled and the problem probably did not occur at Advance Auto. The batteries are manufactured under contract are just branded with their name. G: Probably so. However, If I had bought a Bosch alternator, put it on the shelf, and then two months later found that it was missing the diode, I would expect them to replace it with one that had a diode. If a battery is missing electrolyte I expect them to replace it with one that was not missing electrolyte. There are stores that will do that sort of thing. The store which Advance Auto bought out (Discount Auto) would have. It's also possible that your charging system is over charging the dry cells cooked off first. The timing is about right. G: Actually, my charging system is undercharging (I just put in another diode) but maybe the cells cooked off anyway. I usually buy one of Consumer Reports higher rated batteries. Should have gotten a jump at the store and the next day at home and then went and bought a NAPA which was the top rated battery. Duh! Live and learn. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
I agree with the tech. Gump has rubber lines connecting to the solid lines at the tank, and then more rubber to make the bend up to the engine from under the car. No low tech return line rubber, but hardier stuff like the cigar hose is made of. If it is exposed to the elements in a harmful way, I would shield it though clay On 26 Sep 2007, at 06:25, Fred Johnson wrote: In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic __ __ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities +for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
You still have to do something with the ends. You can order nylon that will fit snugly inside the existing flexible tubing at the gas tank and lift pump - the same way the current metal tubing does. I use a larger size tubing and did the overlap thing with the existing hose, rather than fit inside it. I'm running on WVO and the larger tubing helps the thicker liquid flow better. I have found the Harbor Freight digital caliper to be helpful when measuring for tubing size: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47257 The 6 is on sale for $16 online. If you print the page and show it to the local store, they will match the price. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be able to replace the complete line with Nylon 6 tubing if I follow your logic. I'd prefer this to patching. --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need a somewhat rigid tubing to hold up to the vacuum created by the lift pump on the engine. I've had good luck with Nylon-6 tubing from Mcmaster.com . I use a more flexible tubing to join the nylon to the existing metal in a butt-joint by covering both pieces and using spring clamps. I prefer spring clamps because they apply constant pressure as the metal tubing expands and contracts, and as the softer tubing deforms over time. When I've used worm-gear hose clamps, I've had to go back and tighten them up every year or so. If you don't overlap, use compression fittings. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
On 9/26/07, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually buy one of Consumer Reports higher rated batteries. Should have gotten a jump at the store and the next day at home and then went and bought a NAPA which was the top rated battery. Duh! Live and learn. Gerry, which NAPA line did CR recommend (I assume the store sells a couple different varieties at different price levels)? I have been buying Autozone red top batteries on Dave Meimann's recommendation on the list but am not particularly impressed with them. The one in my 300D is getting wheezy after only two or three Oregon winters. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Rusty Cullens wrote: You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? I would not consider fabricating this one. Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more powerful than the usual automotive spring. I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Rent Rusty's when you need it. Cheap, easy, fast and it is the proper tool that will not kill you. --R George Larribeau wrote: I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? I would not consider fabricating this one. Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more powerful than the usual automotive spring. I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 PS Pump leak Help/Thanks
Thanks to whoever suggested I check the front pump seal. That's great news. Will do. Sorry I lost the message with your name. Much appreciate it! Dan 82 300SD 293k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Cost on these now is $965.00 plus shipping. Renting is the only way to go. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Rusty Cullens wrote: You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? I would not consider fabricating this one. Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more powerful than the usual automotive spring. I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
No. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? I would not consider fabricating this one. Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more powerful than the usual automotive spring. I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
I just used one to remove the front springs on my 99 E300. The local Harbor Freight had it on sale for $56. It took a little wiggling to get it in place, but it handled the job quite well. However, Harbor Freight no longer lists it on their website, so there may have been too many incidents. Or they sold out. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? I would not consider fabricating this one. Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more powerful than the usual automotive spring. I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
Dave, I pass by a Harbor Freight on the way home and will look tonight. I was also thinking about the overlap thing. While I don't do WVO, I do get free 3-5 gallon pails of vegetable oil occasionally, food service business. I add a gallon or two at each fill up to stretch the $3.20/gal. diesel. It's enough to leave a nice aroma and it's free. Fred --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You still have to do something with the ends. You can order nylon that will fit snugly inside the existing flexible tubing at the gas tank and lift pump - the same way the current metal tubing does. I use a larger size tubing and did the overlap thing with the existing hose, rather than fit inside it. I'm running on WVO and the larger tubing helps the thicker liquid flow better. I have found the Harbor Freight digital caliper to be helpful when measuring for tubing size: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47257 The 6 is on sale for $16 online. If you print the page and show it to the local store, they will match the price. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be able to replace the complete line with Nylon 6 tubing if I follow your logic. I'd prefer this to patching. --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need a somewhat rigid tubing to hold up to the vacuum created by the lift pump on the engine. I've had good luck with Nylon-6 tubing from Mcmaster.com . I use a more flexible tubing to join the nylon to the existing metal in a butt-joint by covering both pieces and using spring clamps. I prefer spring clamps because they apply constant pressure as the metal tubing expands and contracts, and as the softer tubing deforms over time. When I've used worm-gear hose clamps, I've had to go back and tighten them up every year or so. If you don't overlap, use compression fittings. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
On 9/26/07, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually buy one of Consumer Reports higher rated batteries. Should have gotten a jump at the store and the next day at home and then went and bought a NAPA which was the top rated battery. Duh! Live and learn. Gerry, which NAPA line did CR recommend (I assume the store sells a couple different varieties at different price levels)? I have been buying Autozone red top batteries on Dave Meimann's recommendation on the list but am not particularly impressed with them. The one in my 300D is getting wheezy after only two or three Oregon winters. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. -- Group 65 lists a NAPA 84 Select 8465 as the top pick, then Duralast 65-DL, then Everstart MAXX-65N. Group 34/78 lists Everstart MAXX-1N as top pick, then Nascar XLT Performance Series NXDT34, then AC Delco Professional 78DT-6YR. Those are the batteries for the largest cars but I seem to remember that MB diesels take a special group which is not listed. CU also says Everstart, AC Delco, Napa, and Nascar are best for cold climates. CU goes into a lot of detail about the various batteries, but those seem to be the best choices. Good luck, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What constitutes harmful overheating? 87 190D
Any overheating is harmful overheating. Thats why its OVERheating. The coolant turns to steam, expands 6x (or more I don't really remember) and breaks things. Anyway should this happen in the future remember that with just a dead alternator you're actually in pretty good shape. A few years ago the waterpump siezed in my Dodge Dakota and I managed to drive another 15 miles (took hours) to safety. The trick is to shut the car off before it gets too hot. I'd run my truck up a hill, kill the engine and coast down the other side. Of course sometimes I didn't get all the way up the hill so I'd kill it in motion and roll until it stopped, then let it cool and continue. That was 6 years (and about 100,000 miles) ago and I've seen no ill effects. But I made sure the temp never even nudged the red... -Curt Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:56:02 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] What constitutes harmful overheating? 87 190D To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I must say that I am very thankful that this breakdown has been on par with about every one I have ever had in terms of fortuitousness. I looked down and noticed several of the dummy lights glowing. I then saw the engine temperature rising shockingly fast. I threw it in neutral and shut it off as I coasted at around 45 - 50 mph down a long hill. Then started it again to get up a hill, and watched the temp approach the 120 mark and the little red mark. I may have been unwise, but I wanted to get it off the highway and to a safe place. By the time I shut the thing off and rolled to a stop, the gauge was just about touching that top temp reading (120, right?). But I did not let it run for any length of time at that temp. So how bad is what I've done? I mean really, not idealistically. I know that these engines are at least somewhat prone to head gasket failures, aren't they? But I would imagine that like any engine, it can take being badly overheated several times throughout its life. Brian - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
I don't like our Autozone very much but I like Advance Auto alot less. Which is too bad the store LOOKS like it ought to have all kinds of good/cool stuff, it just doesn't... Anyway on the subject of batteries I used to be stuck on the idea of Diehard as the way to go. Then when the battery in my 240D was conking out just as I was getting rid of it I put in a $60 (vs $140 for the diehard I put in my 300TD) which is still going fine 2 years later (I know the guy who bought the car). Heck I could buy the AZ battery twice as often and still be money ahead. Marshall contends they're probably the same battery with different names and I tend to agree. The AZ battery was marked with Made by Johnson Controls. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:46:35 -0400 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Tom Hargrave wrote: Modern car batteries are fill forget. And because of this, the younger guys gals at the auto stores don't have a clue. They just test replace. Gerry: That seems to be the case, but some stores will give you the benefit of the doubt and let you show them why a part is defective. I suspect that you purchased a battery that had been spilled or incorrectly filled and the problem probably did not occur at Advance Auto. The batteries are manufactured under contract are just branded with their name. G: Probably so. However, If I had bought a Bosch alternator, put it on the shelf, and then two months later found that it was missing the diode, I would expect them to replace it with one that had a diode. If a battery is missing electrolyte I expect them to replace it with one that was not missing electrolyte. There are stores that will do that sort of thing. The store which Advance Auto bought out (Discount Auto) would have. It's also possible that your charging system is over charging the dry cells cooked off first. The timing is about right. G: Actually, my charging system is undercharging (I just put in another diode) but maybe the cells cooked off anyway. I usually buy one of Consumer Reports higher rated batteries. Should have gotten a jump at the store and the next day at home and then went and bought a NAPA which was the top rated battery. Duh! Live and learn. Gerry - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
What to kill yourself with? Absolutely. Dave remember that everybody on the list is saying something like the right tool costs HUNDREDS of dollars and If you don't use the right tool you'll DIE. Do you really want to try a cheapo tool on this? Is your life worth the money. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:15:27 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner than you think. i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. On 9/26/07, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Detroit 1986 (?) 300d
You caught me - I was looking the pics of the Chicago '87 300d that were posted earlier - wrong car! On 9/26/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how can you tell, there is no pic of the engine. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What constitutes harmful overheating? 87 190D
Oh, I guess I assumed that my other post about my alternator going bad would be related to this one. Yeah, it was the belt getting thrown - I assume by bad alternator bearings. Or perhaps the egg came before the chicken, but whatever. Brian On 9/26/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Needle in the red zone is bad. Fix whatever cause the coolant loss, then watch for oil or gas in the coolant. The head, once it gets that hot (and it was MUCH hotter than the temp gauge) tends to crack, warp, or collapse. You will also likely get premature head gasket failure. The side of the highway is the best place. Scary, perhaps, but you have to balance inconvinience with replacing the head. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
I appreciate the input. Saying it won't work is different than saying you should not use it. To be honest, after handling one to do the job, I find it to be adequately heavy-duty to be used safely. I prefer the quick hydraulic operation to manually tightening and loosening a bolt. One man's opinion... -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner than you think. i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. On 9/26/07, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
And then there's the challenge issue. If price is no object, then there is no challenge to overcome when buying new. You get a lot of satisfaction from turning a POS into a good useful tool, etc. Heck - some of us get vicarious satisfaction from Jim's exploits! Reading about them is a lot more fun than I bought a new genset today - it works. On 9/26/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sounds to me that the lesson here is that junk is still junk and ought to be avoided, whatever the price. If price was no object, I'd have bought a better one, new. Junk is often junk because of only a few weak places. Or so I've found. Sometimes you can correct them. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
I bought an Autozone battery one year that it was top rated in CU. It lasted well. I dealt mostly with Autozone for while until they started demanding that we write down our name, address, telephone number, etc. when we dumped used oil. Gerry -- - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't like our Autozone very much but I like Advance Auto alot less. Which is too bad the store LOOKS like it ought to have all kinds of good/cool stuff, it just doesn't... Anyway on the subject of batteries I used to be stuck on the idea of Diehard as the way to go. Then when the battery in my 240D was conking out just as I was getting rid of it I put in a $60 (vs $140 for the diehard I put in my 300TD) which is still going fine 2 years later (I know the guy who bought the car). Heck I could buy the AZ battery twice as often and still be money ahead. Marshall contends they're probably the same battery with different names and I tend to agree. The AZ battery was marked with Made by Johnson Controls. -Curt Tom Hargrave wrote: Modern car batteries are fill forget. And because of this, the younger guys gals at the auto stores don't have a clue. They just test replace. Gerry: That seems to be the case, but some stores will give you the benefit of the doubt and let you show them why a part is defective. I suspect that you purchased a battery that had been spilled or incorrectly filled and the problem probably did not occur at Advance Auto. The batteries are manufactured under contract are just branded with their name. G: Probably so. However, If I had bought a Bosch alternator, put it on the shelf, and then two months later found that it was missing the diode, I would expect them to replace it with one that had a diode. If a battery is missing electrolyte I expect them to replace it with one that was not missing electrolyte. There are stores that will do that sort of thing. The store which Advance Auto bought out (Discount Auto) would have. It's also possible that your charging system is over charging the dry cells cooked off first. The timing is about right. G: Actually, my charging system is undercharging (I just put in another diode) but maybe the cells cooked off anyway. I usually buy one of Consumer Reports higher rated batteries. Should have gotten a jump at the store and the next day at home and then went and bought a NAPA which was the top rated battery. Duh! Live and learn. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Replaced the ball joints on my '83 300D with two jacks but was puckerin' the whole time. Never do it again. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner than you think. i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. On 9/26/07, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1029 - Release Date: 9/24/2007 7:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE
I am no expert on this, but when I was having that clunk [like someone was hiding in the trunk with a sledge hammer] it was a vacuum problem. Went ok for a year after I got it fixed, but I am not having a rebuilt put in. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE I got a chance to test drive that 300TE that I got my eye on, seemed alright except for a real clunky 4-3 shift. You know when you are cruising along and give it a bootfull, usually the downshift should be smooth but in this car it is real neck snapping clunky. I am guessing something is a bit sticky in the box somewhere because all the other shifts are normal and as expected. Experience preferred but guesses accepted. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Most shops mark up parts 100% that is part of how they make money, and why they often refuse to install parts you provide. Allan Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Makes me glad I'm working on my own stuff. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/26/07 01:53 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
what kind of benz cost $120,000 in 1989? I think Hendrik was referring to Aussie dollars not USD. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.7Kmi, die Kiste ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian Give ya $501.00 Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Consider yourself lucky that you were puckering all the way and not squashed half way through. A guy who used to live across the street flew med flight choppers. They responded to a call where some guy's car fell on him - no head left to speak of. You can not move fast enough to get out of the way of a falling car! Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 9/26/07 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Replaced the ball joints on my '83 300D with two jacks but was puckerin' the whole time. Never do it again. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner than you think. i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. On 9/26/07, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1029 - Release Date: 9/24/2007 7:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Warning on Autocraft Titanium A battery from Advance Auto
I bought a 300SD with stuck CC servo drawing 0.4A. It had a five year old Autozone Duralast group 49 in it. I spent a couple of days driving it home with no trouble. After I got it home, I ran it dead twice before I found the electrical problem and took out the climate control fuse (it was an inline fuseholder, not in the fuse box). The 2nd time finished off the battery. I paid $60 for another one just like it, the new one has a 7 year warranty. It's in OK shape after 5 years, but doesn't hold a charge in storage as long as the Interstate in my 190D. I can let the 190D sit for six months, hook up the battery, glow for ten seconds, and the car starts instantly. If I let the 300SD sit six months with the battery unhooked, I have to charge it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Rusty Cullens wrote: Cost on these now is $965.00 plus shipping. Renting is the only way to go. That's why I said to hire an independent mechanic with the right tools (or find a dealer who remembers what a 12x chassis looks like) or rent yours. I do wish I'd had the spare $$ to buy a Klann when they were a sub $500 item, but even then it would be cheaper to rent yours once every five years than to give up the interest income on the purchase money. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
About double what Rusty charges for the alternator. Either find another mechanic or rustle up several different sources for the alt, print 'em and take 'em in with you, preferably when he's busy. Tell him you don't mind taking it in the behind but you'd like him to lube you up first. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:53:01 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Where's the nearest MBZ dealer? How much do they want for the parts, and will they let you bring your own as long as they don't have to redo it for free if your parts fail? Any bozo at the dealership should be able to handle these jobs, even if there's no place to plug their computer terminal in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Does it not seem odd that the car just lost power and coasted to the side of the road if something major broke? One would think that the driver would have noticed and reported some significant bang or noise or bucking or something noteworthy if there was a major malfunction with the engine at speed. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home... The engine turns over much quicker I then marked the serpentine belt to see if it would change position when engine (or starter) was engaged the belt did not move... If you definitely hear the starter turning something over, and not just the unloaded electric motor sound of an uncoupled starter, then something is broken. Possibly something very bad. Ring gear sheared off the flywheel/TC? Broken flex plate? Broken crank? Broken timing chain? Broken key in front damper/pulley? No shortcuts here, you're going to have to have somebody who knows look at it. You can jump the starter from inside the engine compartment, I suggest you do that while looking at the cam through the oil fill hole. (Or get some help to run the key.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
R A Bennell wrote: Does it not seem odd that the car just lost power and coasted to the side of the road if something major broke? The operator may be one who only notices a problem when the car stops moving. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Dropping a car on one self from an 'ignorant' spring removal process would be extra special stupidly. But hey, ever watch 'Jack Ass' ?? I guess any thing is achievable. I've all ready ruled out jacking them in or out . I've done this on other things in the past with mixed results. Another technique not recommended is to place steel straps around the springs 'while under compression using existing suspension, car weight and maybe a jack then finding a way to remove them where you still have some protection from accidents. The major reason I wont do this here is if it screws up the car can have a better day .. oh yea always use some kind of a safety chain to limit spring travel if accidentally released and clearly understand the rang it could have. Like I said I've been around springs on 'the lose' in the past. BTW I have all 10 fingers and toes .I think I've located an internal hook type compressor that the ME here at work has used on his Ram Charger. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'archer' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Consider yourself lucky that you were puckering all the way and not squashed half way through. A guy who used to live across the street flew med flight choppers. They responded to a call where some guy's car fell on him - no head left to speak of. You can not move fast enough to get out of the way of a falling car! Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 9/26/07 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Replaced the ball joints on my '83 300D with two jacks but was puckerin' the whole time. Never do it again. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] mess with a spring under high pressure, and your demise might be sooner than you think. i once removed a spring from a VW rabbit front strut with a $9 spring compressor. scariest thing i've ever done. On 9/26/07, George Larribeau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to find (fabricate if necessary) an adequate spring compressor for my 85 300SD. There is not a hurry but I intend to keep the car until 'death' (it's or my own ). I currently do not have an internal type compressor. (I have an external type for use with struts). KD makes an internal type. Has any one use on of these? I have taken springs out of many other vehicles and know of the dangers involved. ( yes I have seen springs get lose, not a pretty sight). George Larribeau Dallas Texas 1985 300SD 220K 1987 HD FLHTC 90K, Bent 2 I 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 125K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket, Getting Better) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.30/1029 - Release Date: 9/24/2007 7:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian I can't remember where the alternator was on my 603 300sdl (that's assuming they're similar) but on the tensioner, you should be able to replace it from the top with nothing more than the tools in the trunk. This I learned when the car began to shred its belt about 1/2 mile from the dealer. Considerate old girl, she was. Now- the tensioner on a 103 motor car- a whole different kettle of fish. TOny Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Well, maybe. My younger son plays music that might drown out the sound of the motor throwing several rods out through the oilpan at one time. However, it just makes me wonder if there is anything really bad that happened given the description that the car lost power and coasted to a stop. As an example, my sister in law once had a Honda Civic. If I recall correctly, she parked it and the next time she went to use it, it would not start. My brother in law and I looked at it and ultimately determined that the timing belt had lost some teeth. It did not hurt the motor. A new belt, and she was back on the road. If it had happened in a different manner, the motor would have been damaged as I believe it was an interference engine. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home... R A Bennell wrote: Does it not seem odd that the car just lost power and coasted to the side of the road if something major broke? The operator may be one who only notices a problem when the car stops moving. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT color laser printing costs
Since there is an abundance of IT folks on this list: What are the best/least expensive to operate color laser printers that will do duplex? 11x 17 desirable. Prefer printers under $2500. Does anyone have recent cost per page info of various manufacturers/models? Brother HL-4070CDW Color Laser Printer looks interesting for $400 Beats the crap out if the $13k printer I bought 6-7 years ago. Loren Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Has he done anything to verify that the head is still OK (leak down test)? If not, I'd be leery of spending $910 on it, to find out that you also need a new head. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Zoikes, I didn't think that running the needle up to about the red mark for a moment or two would put me in that much danger! Good thought though, on the money. I really didn't let it dwell at top temp for more than like a minute or so. Brian On 9/26/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has he done anything to verify that the head is still OK (leak down test)? If not, I'd be leery of spending $910 on it, to find out that you also need a new head. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
On 9/26/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoikes, I didn't think that running the needle up to about the red mark for a moment or two would put me in that much danger! Good thought though, on the money. I really didn't let it dwell at top temp for more than like a minute or so. A moment or a minute? Big difference! The latter is an eternity when you're talking about overheated aluminum! BTDT with my car. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT color laser printing costs
We have an HP Color Laserjet 2600n. Given that we are a not-for-profit and not known for spending the big bucks, I suspect that it is good value for the money. On 9/26/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there is an abundance of IT folks on this list: What are the best/least expensive to operate color laser printers that will do duplex? 11x 17 desirable. Prefer printers under $2500. Does anyone have recent cost per page info of various manufacturers/models? Brother HL-4070CDW Color Laser Printer looks interesting for $400 Beats the crap out if the $13k printer I bought 6-7 years ago. Loren Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Get a new mechanic Take the alternator to a rebuild place or just order a NEW one from Rusty for half the rebuild cost. I rebuilt, but should have bought new for cost saving. Did the install my self. No shop labor charge or price gouging. I am sure braindead island has a host of reliable car techs. clay On 26 Sep 2007, at 11:53, Zoltan Finks wrote: How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
My shop would not warrantee the part, but did back their labor to install. I just told them I had world pac drop ship to me. They could not compete on cost there, so I happily paid the labor, since I screwed up the work in the first place. clay On 26 Sep 2007, at 11:58, Allan Streib wrote: Most shops mark up parts 100% that is part of how they make money, and why they often refuse to install parts you provide. Allan Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
OK Don wrote: Has he done anything to verify that the head is still OK (leak down test)? If not, I'd be leery of spending $910 on it, to find out that you also need a new head. Autozone has radiator pump/gauge pressure testers for loan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 126 chassis front spring removal ..
Sent this earlier, doesn't look like it got through George Larribeau I just used one to remove the front springs on my 99 E300. do you mean the KD thing ?? PS: I don't want to start an 'incident' on the list. Just asking. It may be true about the factory tool however I wish to pursue other options. Like I said I've taken out springs before and the definition of 'wimpy' is relative. The vehicle is still a car in the 2-tone class, not a Truck.I have nothing against Rusty, I buy parts from him. I just have a personal culture of self-sufficncy. It's just a thing. Any relevant experience is of interest. Any one interested is invited to contact me off list. George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. I just used one to remove the front springs on my 99 E300. The local Harbor Freight had it on sale for $56. It took a little wiggling to get it in place, but it handled the job quite well. However, Harbor Freight no longer lists it on their website, so there may have been too many incidents. Or they sold out. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty Cullens wrote: You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? I would not consider fabricating this one. Klann is the factory tool. Costs many hundreds of $$$. SIR is tolerable as a cheap substitute, costs a few hundred. No idea if KD is up to the task, but if it's got the two swinging hook arms on each end, I'd avoid it. The right tool has solid plates to hold the spring, which is far more powerful than the usual automotive spring. I'd take it to an indy who owns a Klann or give Rusty a call and DIY. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT color laser printing costs
Cost per page is basically dependent on toner cartridge/tank (or whatever vessel it comes in) costs -- check to see what the avg page count is and then figure it out. Of course, finding that info might be difficult as the manfs don't want you to know that the are in the razor blade business, making money off carts and not the printer. The carts are pretty pricey, and they all seem to be about the same price across manfs, so not clear if one is cheaper than another unless you get some kind of page count. Then of course it depends on your usage -- they might last you a couple of years if you don't use them much, by then a similar printer will be half the cost while the carts are still pricey, so either way you'll have to suck it up. I get emails from LD which is some sort of cart manf or refiller or something, their carts are considerably cheaper than OEM, and seem to work OK. I bought some color inkjet carts from them a couple years ago. --R Loren Faeth wrote: Since there is an abundance of IT folks on this list: What are the best/least expensive to operate color laser printers that will do duplex? 11x 17 desirable. Prefer printers under $2500. Does anyone have recent cost per page info of various manufacturers/models? Brother HL-4070CDW Color Laser Printer looks interesting for $400 Beats the crap out if the $13k printer I bought 6-7 years ago. Loren Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
