Re: Mersenne: Search for a divisor of M_M_61.

1999-09-29 Thread Sturle Sunde

 According to Will Edgington, up to N=18,726,396,568 has been 
 done. (Note: My N = Will's 2*k.) However it may be that someone 
 is seriously continuing the search. 

That is correct: URL:http://www.garlic.com/~wedgingt/MMPstats.txt

You could at least check this page (which should be well known) and email 
the one who is listed there as working on the exponent (me) before handing 
out ranges.  

 Therefore I suggest, unless you specifically want to do smaller N's, 
 that I start handing out ranges from, say, N = 10^13. One possibility 
 is that we do all divisors with N from 10^13 to 10^14 and mop up 0 to 
 10^13 later.

I have been factoring a bit above k=10^13 already, but with several large 
gaps below.  Start higher if you want to avoid duplicating work.


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Mersenne: Version 19 - release candidate #1

1999-09-29 Thread George Woltman

Hi all,

At Scott's request, a computer ID is now required (one will be assigned if
you don't specify one).  The RdtscTiming undocumented feature has been made
available plus some minor bug fixes.  The math code is unchanged.  I'll post
the updated source code shortly.

There is one report that the NT service version crashes in Windows 2000.
Have there been any success stories in this environment or is this an
isolated incident?  Please respond by private email.

Prime95 can be downloaded at:
ftp://entropia.com/gimps/p95b.zip
The linux beta dynamicly linked with glibc 2.1 is at:
ftp://entropia.com/gimps/mprb.tgz
The linux beta staticly linked is at:
ftp://entropia.com/gimps/sprb.tgz
The Windows NT service version is at:
ftp://entropia.com/gimps/ntb.zip

Regards,
George

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Mersenne: New Feature: ping-pong exponents

1999-09-29 Thread Allan G. Schrum

This probably isn't a problem, but it is an interesting feature of
V18.1.1 prime95. Just before a system backup, prime95 fetched a new
exponent to work on. A few hours later, I stopped the machine to do a
backup which took approximately 12 hours. When starting the system back
up, prime95 decided I had too much work to do and gave back the
exponent. A day later, prime95 decided it was time to get another
exponent and so I have yet another exponent to test.

Obviously, prime95 is trying to determine the approximate "hours per
day" it is running to get X-days of work and I happened to hit that
threshold (both coming and going) that caused this strange game of
Ping-Pong.

I don't think anything really needs to be done (unless you really want
to add some hysteresis to the exponent check-out procedure), but it was
interesting to watch.

-Allan

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Mersenne: F24 resolved - official announcement

1999-09-29 Thread EWMAYER

TECHNICAL NEWS RELEASE  (29 Sep 1999)

DEEPEST COMPUTATION IN HISTORY, FOR A YES/NO ANSWER

Contact:

Dr. Richard Crandall
Director
Center for Advanced Computation
Reed College, Portland Oregon
(503) 777-7255
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is believed to be the deepest computation -- for a simple "yes/no" or  
"1-bit" answer -- in history has just been completed by a team of three  
investigators: Ernst Mayer, formerly of Case Western Reserve University,  
Cleveland, Ohio; Jason Papadopoulos of the University of Maryland, College  
Park, Maryland;  and Richard Crandall of the Center for Advanced Computation, 
 
Reed College, Portland, Oregon.

The computation involves a gargantuan, mysterious number
called F24, the twenty-fourth Fermat number. F24 is over 5 million decimal  
digits in length, and the three investigators have answered the question: "is 
 
F24 a prime number?".  The answer, based on their intensive computation, is  
"no."  This means that there must exist proper factors of F24, though not a  
single explicit factor is yet known.  (See end of article for background on 
the  
celebrated Fermat numbers.)

Mayer and Papadopoulos used independent, floating-point
"wavefront" implementations of the rigorous, classical Pepin primality proof; 
 
which runs were completed on 27 and 31 Aug 1999 respectively, ending up in  
complete agreement on the final Pepin residue, said residue not equal to (-1) 
 
as required  for  primality.  During these "wavefront" runs Crandall used a  
pure-integer convolution scheme in parallel mode (i.e. running on many  
computers simultaneously), to check the periodically deposited wavefront  
residues. With this integer verification, the proof is considered rigorous:  
there is no doubt that F24 is composite.
The mathematical details will be published later (a preprint of the three  
authors' paper is available at www.perfsci.com/free/techpapers).  Many  
colleagues of the three investigators contributed to this massive
computational project (see below for detailed acknowledgements).

F24 = 2^(2^24) + 1 at over 5 million digits dwarfs the current largest known
prime 2^6972593-1, which is a "mere" 2 million digits (see www.mersenne.org,
www.perfsci.com, www.entropia.com).
To convey the scale of the computation, consider that the Pixar-Disney movie
"A Bug's Life" needed about 10^17 (one hundred quadrillion) computer 
operations
for its complete rendering, yet essentially the same number of operations went
into the F24 proof. So the amusing notion is: for 10^17 operations you can
either get a feature-length state-of-the-art synthetic movie, or for similar
computational cost you can get a 1-bit answer (prime/not prime).

Fermat numbers are numbers of the form Fn = 2^(2^n) + 1. Written in binary
the n-th Fermat number consists of a binary one, followed by 2^n zeros and a
trailing one. For example, in binary F2 = 11 and F4 = 11.
Each time you increase the index n by one, the number of binary zeros, and
thus the number of digits (in either binary or decimal form) also roughly  
doubles.  P. Fermat conjectured in the early 1600's that each of the Fn is  
prime.  He had in hand the first five examples F0 = 3, F1 = 5, F2 = 17, F3 =  
257 and F4 = 65537, each of which being indeed prime. However, unlike his  
celebrated "last theorem" recently proved by A. Wiles, Fermat's conjecture  
regarding the primality of the Fn turns out to be about as wrong as can be. 
Not  
a single prime Fermat number is known beyond F4.  For example, F5 = 
4294967297  
is divisible by 641, and every other Fermat number has either exhibited  
factors, or remains of unknown character (prime/composite).

When factoring algorithms fail to produce an explicit factor, the Fermat
number in question can still be subjected to a Pepin test, a deterministic 
test
of primality. This test requires a sequence of squarings of numbers, a member
of the sequence being generally as large as the Fermat number under test,
and one must do as many such squarings as there are binary zeros in the
Fermat number in question. The primality test for F24 thus requires
16777215 squarings, each such squaring being of a number over five
million decimal digits in length. Even though it is now generally believed
that are no more prime Fermat numbers beyond those found by Fermat himself,
the testing of these numbers has proved to be a valuable exercise, since each
new test tends to occur, for the given era, at the edge of feasibility on  
state-of-art  computer hardware, not to mention at the fringe of algorithm
development.

There have also been important theoretical and algorithmic advances spurred by
such work, and many of the fundamental algorithms used for the Fermat numbers
are also widely used in other areas - for example, the two floating-point
Pepin tests of F24 each used an efficient squaring algorithm based on a
procedure called the fast Fourier transform (FFT), which is ubiquitous in the
field of 

Re: Mersenne: graphical interface for gimps

1999-09-29 Thread Vincent J. Mooney Jr.

Neat Idea !!

At 08:22 PM 9/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
Instead of a boring status bar, how about a graphic of a
caterpillar gnawing away on a leaf?  It starts out as a full
leaf and disappears as the little beastie devours his sustenance.
Have an outline of the original leaf for size comparison.
That would be cool: have it turn into a butterfly at the end.
Or if the exponent is prime, have it turn into a pile of gold
or something.  {8^D  spike

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Re: Mersenne: graphical interface for gimps

1999-09-29 Thread Chris Nash

 Instead of a boring status bar, how about a graphic of a
 caterpillar gnawing away on a leaf
 Neat Idea !!

I love the thinking behind this... after all, it seems fashionable these
days to offer downloadable 'skins' for your mp3 player or whatever - the
world is obsessed with multimedia :) Who knows, maybe some one out there
will write a Prime95 viewer that sits there watching George's window for
text output and show it as a cute animation in the 'skin' of your choice...
in fact, with all the talk about the gui on here, I'm surprised someone
hasn't tried that already :)

Oh, it would have to take zero processor time, of course :)

Chris Nash
Lexington KY
UNITED STATES


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