Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified
At 06:49 PM 1999/06/03 -0700, Paul Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:47 PM 6/2/99 Ken Kriesel wrote: The EFF requires that they approve the specific publication and referee process ...otherwise the newly discovered Mersenne Prime isn't "officially" a Mersenne Prime? Fascinating! (Or is this just for the prize?) Just for the prize award. As someone said, "It's their money, so they get to make the rules." That's pretty standard. Ken Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm
Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified
At 08:47 PM 6/2/99 Ken Kriesel wrote: The EFF requires that they approve the specific publication and referee process ...otherwise the newly discovered Mersenne Prime isn't "officially" a Mersenne Prime? Fascinating! (Or is this just for the prize?) Paul Burnett, Morgan Hill, CA: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm
Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified
And now the bad news. Since the EFF award requires publication of the result in a refereed academic journal, the publication process will take longer than normal. It could be a few months. I sugest you send a letter to Nature or Science. The review process is probably one of the shortest available and this discovery fit well with the philosophy of those journals. Yvan Dutil Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm
Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified
On 1 Jun 99, at 21:26, George Woltman wrote: The 38th Mersenne prime was *probably* discovered today. The exponent is in the 6,000,000s (the prime is in the neighborhood of 2,000,000 digits). The discoverer is a member of the top 200 contributors according to http://www.mersenne.org/top.htm Congratulations to the "unknown" discoverer, together with George and Scott! As was agreed after the last prime was discovered, I'm announcing the news to this mailing list immediately. When the prime is properly verified and published, then I'll announce the exact exponent. This process was agreed to as a compromise in keeping everyone informed, yet minimizing any chance of the news prematurely leaking to the press. Yes - this approach is entirely sensible - though I guess the chance of a hardware or program error triggering a "false prime alert" is _extremely_ small, the fact that there is a substantial sum of money hanging on the result means that it is not impossible that some "clever clogs" could have "forged" a PrimeNet message block. Though I don't see what good it would do since independent verification was always going to be required. Please note, I'm most definitely NOT suggesting in any way that the claim is bogus or fraudulent; I'm just trying to point out how careful we need to be before formally announcing a result as important as this. And now the bad news. Since the EFF award requires publication of the result in a refereed academic journal, the publication process will take longer than normal. It could be a few months. I don't see any particular problem in this. Once we have independent verification, there will be no doubt that the number really _is_ prime, and the fact should be easy to get past a referee - unlike, e.g., a purported proof of the Generalised Riemann Hypothesis, which would require _very_ skilled and careful refereeing!. Presumably a statement of fact in a news column in, e.g., "Nature" is sufficient, rather than a full-blown paper. For that, all that would appear to be needed is the number, the names of the discovery and verification teams, dates and possibly some brief details of the hardware software used. George - is DS doing the verification run again - or is this also "restricted information" at the moment? Regards Brian Beesley Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm
Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified
Hi all! The 38th Mersenne prime was *probably* discovered today. The exponent is in the 6,000,000s (the prime is in the neighborhood of 2,000,000 digits). The discoverer is a member of the top 200 contributors according to http://www.mersenne.org/top.htm As was agreed after the last prime was discovered, I'm announcing the news to this mailing list immediately. When the prime is properly verified and published, then I'll announce the exact exponent. This process was agreed to as a compromise in keeping everyone informed, yet minimizing any chance of the news prematurely leaking to the press. And now the bad news. Since the EFF award requires publication of the result in a refereed academic journal, the publication process will take longer than normal. It could be a few months. Tentative congratulations to all GIMPS members for their contribution in this exciting discovery!! Oh yeah, and special thanks to Scott Kurowski and entropia.com. We wouldn't have found this prime without his tireless Primenet server work. Now let's go find the 39th! Best regards, George Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm
Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified
Hi all, One more thing, thankfully this was not an exponent that was originally tested by the buggy version 17. Best regards, George Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm
Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified
George Woltman wrote: The 38th Mersenne prime was *probably* discovered today. The exponent is in the 6,000,000s (the prime is in the neighborhood of 2,000,000 digits). Wow! Finally, we've been waiting for this for months now! Congratulations to George, Scott and the discoverer! -- Petri Holopainen Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm