Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified

1999-06-05 Thread Ken Kriesel

At 06:49 PM 1999/06/03 -0700, Paul Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 08:47 PM 6/2/99 Ken Kriesel wrote:

The EFF requires that they approve the specific publication and referee 
process

...otherwise the newly discovered Mersenne Prime isn't "officially" a
Mersenne Prime?  Fascinating!  (Or is this just for the prize?)

Just for the prize award.  As someone said, "It's their money, so they get
to make the rules."  That's pretty standard.


Ken


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Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified

1999-06-03 Thread Paul Burnett

At 08:47 PM 6/2/99 Ken Kriesel wrote:

The EFF requires that they approve the specific publication and referee 
process

...otherwise the newly discovered Mersenne Prime isn't "officially" a
Mersenne Prime?  Fascinating!  (Or is this just for the prize?)


Paul Burnett, Morgan Hill, CA: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified

1999-06-02 Thread Yvan Dutil

   And now the bad news.  Since the EFF award requires publication
of the result in a refereed academic journal, the publication process
will take longer than normal.  It could be a few months.

I sugest you send a letter to Nature or Science. The review process is
probably one of the shortest available and this discovery fit well with
the philosophy of those journals.

Yvan Dutil


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Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified

1999-06-02 Thread bjb

On 1 Jun 99, at 21:26, George Woltman wrote:

   The 38th Mersenne prime was *probably* discovered today.  The exponent
 is in the 6,000,000s (the prime is in the neighborhood of 2,000,000 digits).
 The discoverer is a member of the top 200 contributors according to 
 http://www.mersenne.org/top.htm

Congratulations to the "unknown" discoverer, together with George 
and Scott!
 
   As was agreed after the last prime was discovered, I'm announcing
 the news to this mailing list immediately.  When the prime is properly 
 verified and published, then I'll announce the exact exponent.  This process
 was agreed to as a compromise in keeping everyone informed, yet minimizing
 any chance of the news prematurely leaking to the press.
 
Yes - this approach is entirely sensible - though I guess the 
chance of a hardware or program error triggering a "false prime 
alert" is _extremely_ small, the fact that there is a substantial sum 
of money hanging on the result means that it is not impossible that 
some "clever clogs" could have "forged" a PrimeNet message 
block. Though I don't see what good it would do since independent 
verification was always going to be required.

Please note, I'm most definitely NOT suggesting in any way that 
the claim is bogus or fraudulent; I'm just trying to point out how 
careful we need to be before formally announcing a result as 
important as this.

   And now the bad news.  Since the EFF award requires publication
 of the result in a refereed academic journal, the publication process
 will take longer than normal.  It could be a few months.

I don't see any particular problem in this. Once we have 
independent verification, there will be no doubt that the number 
really _is_ prime, and the fact should be easy to get past a referee -
unlike, e.g., a purported proof of the Generalised Riemann 
Hypothesis, which would require _very_ skilled and careful 
refereeing!.

Presumably a statement of fact in a news column in, e.g., "Nature" 
is sufficient, rather than a full-blown paper. For that, all that would 
appear to be needed is the number, the names of the discovery 
and verification teams, dates and possibly some brief details of the 
hardware  software used.

George - is DS doing the verification run again - or is this also 
"restricted information" at the moment?
Regards
Brian Beesley

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Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified

1999-06-01 Thread George Woltman

Hi all!

The 38th Mersenne prime was *probably* discovered today.  The exponent
is in the 6,000,000s (the prime is in the neighborhood of 2,000,000 digits).
The discoverer is a member of the top 200 contributors according to 
http://www.mersenne.org/top.htm

As was agreed after the last prime was discovered, I'm announcing
the news to this mailing list immediately.  When the prime is properly 
verified and published, then I'll announce the exact exponent.  This process
was agreed to as a compromise in keeping everyone informed, yet minimizing
any chance of the news prematurely leaking to the press.

And now the bad news.  Since the EFF award requires publication
of the result in a refereed academic journal, the publication process
will take longer than normal.  It could be a few months.

Tentative congratulations to all GIMPS members for their contribution
in this exciting discovery!!

Oh yeah, and special thanks to Scott Kurowski and entropia.com.
We wouldn't have found this prime without his tireless Primenet server work.

Now let's go find the 39th!

Best regards,
George


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Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified

1999-06-01 Thread George Woltman

Hi all,

One more thing, thankfully this was not an exponent that was
originally tested by the buggy version 17.

Best regards,
George


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Re: Mersenne: New Mersenne Prime found!! Not yet verified

1999-06-01 Thread Petri Holopainen

George Woltman wrote:
 
 The 38th Mersenne prime was *probably* discovered today.  The exponent
 is in the 6,000,000s (the prime is in the neighborhood of 2,000,000 digits).

Wow! Finally, we've been waiting for this for months now! 
Congratulations to George, Scott and the discoverer!

-- Petri Holopainen

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