Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject) Cosmic Visitors (Brad Sampson)
Hello all This is another email of the Mr. delayed shipments [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the fifth address that it changes, one for every excuse that pulls outside for its delays with Ebay. Those that is of sure that I will not acquire never more from Sampson, and has not had the courage to reply to my email put in the list, even if is present in the list. He has been only able to put two feedbacks neutral - and false - on my Ebay account Regards Matteo --- Jerry A. Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rob, The address I have on Cosmic Visitors (Brad Sampson) is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That may be the same address you have for him. I got the one above from his recently closed eBay auctions. After all I have read about Brad on the list I wouldn't have bid on any of his auctions, but Cosmic Visitors didn't ring any bells with me, so I won one last night. We'll see what develops on that!!! Matteo may have something more recent. (Bad joke!) Jerry Wallace Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example. Mark Twain Rob Wesel wrote: Hello all- Who is the owner of Cosmic Visitors and do any of you have a current email address? The link for e-mail on the site comes back to me every time undeliverable. -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Ebay auctions ending tonight......
I have a few ebay auctions ending tonight. NO RESERVES. There are Sikhote-alin still listed at only $.17 per gram. You can't even buy Canyon Diablo that cheap!!! Bid high, bid often, I could use the cash!!! Scroll down to the bottom of the page at the following link: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ Best Wishes to all .. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
[meteorite-list] list shut down
u should susped the guy or kick him off dont shut the whole list down thanks luis
[meteorite-list] new campo
I have 1664 grams of the new campo for trade! I have pics of it. Let me know if interested. It is a thing of beauty, no rust at all. steve arnold, chicago!!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 The Midwest Meteorite Collector! Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Outline Meteors' Paths inColorado/Utah
Huh??? The object probably accelerated quickly in Earth's atmosphere, streaking faster than 20,000 mph by the time it was 10 or 15 miles above the surface, Murphy speculated. At that point, the shock wave created by such acceleration could have split the meteorite into many pieces, which fell to the ground or disintegrated. So meteorites actually accelerate in our atmosphere rather than decelerate? Doug Duncan, director of the University of Colorado's Fiske Planetarium, was pessimistic that anyone would stumble upon a chunk of meteorite. For every correct meteorite an amateur collects, there's 10 'meteorwrongs,' he joked. And these things typically burn at 100 miles up. They can look pretty close, but that's deceptive. Wow! a 10% meteorite/wrong success rate. I've heard ASU put their rate at 1% and I figured that was generous. Just my early morning breakfast thoughts. Cheers, Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1109 Howardite or Eucrite?
Adam kindly wrote: It looks like NWA 1109 may turn out to be a very interesting and rare polymict eucrite with over 20 different basaltic textures (sizes) incorporated and a huge array of accessory minerals. I do not believe there is enough orthopyroxene(diogenite component) incorporated to qualify it as a Howardite. Just my opinion, but it sure sounds like NWA 1109 should be classified as a another contest on this List. Cheers, Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] november
If you're talking about the Leonids, then yes! Average of 1,000 to 6,000 ZHR. But the moon will be full, so that will cut some of them down. If you missied last year's shower (or storm) then this is your last chance because after this one there isn't going to be any this big for a *long* time. In fact the rate is acutaly going to go down below average. Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Luis Villafane To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] november (meteorite_list) Do u guys think novembers meteor storm will be good? thanks LUIS __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] November Leonids
Luis, Here's NASA's answer to your question: I'm hoping for a good one too! Al Emer Subject: Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast To: NASA Science News [EMAIL PROTECTED] NASA Science News for October 9, 2002 Scientists at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center have just released new predictions for the 2002 Leonid meteor storm. Their forecast covers 58 cities around the world and the International Space Station. Where's the best place to be when the storm arrives on Nov. 19th? Read the full story and find out. FULL STORY at http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm?list8692 At 07:18 AM 10/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Do u guys think novembers meteor storm will be good? thanks LUIS
Re: [meteorite-list] November Leonids
Also try Sky Telescope (http://skyandtelescope.com). And Astronomy (http://www.astronomy.com). Try the American Meteor Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/) too. Jonathan M. Gore[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Allen Emer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] November Leonids Luis,Here's NASA's answer to your question:I'm hoping for a good one too!Al EmerSubject: Leonid Meteor Storm ForecastTo: "NASA Science News" [EMAIL PROTECTED]NASA Science News for October 9, 2002Scientists at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center have just released newpredictions for the 2002 Leonid meteor storm. Their forecast covers 58cities around the world and the International Space Station. Where's thebest place to be when the storm arrives on Nov. 19th? Read the full storyand find out.FULL STORY athttp://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm?list8692At 07:18 AM 10/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Do u guys think novembers meteor storm will be good?thanks LUIS
Fw: [meteorite-list] November Leonids
One more link http://aio.arc.nasa.gov/~leonid/. Jonathan M. Gore[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Jonathan Gore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] November Leonids Also try Sky Telescope (http://skyandtelescope.com). And Astronomy (http://www.astronomy.com). Try the American Meteor Society (http://www.amsmeteors.org/) too. Jonathan M. Gore[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Allen Emer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] November Leonids Luis,Here's NASA's answer to your question:I'm hoping for a good one too!Al EmerSubject: Leonid Meteor Storm ForecastTo: "NASA Science News" [EMAIL PROTECTED]NASA Science News for October 9, 2002Scientists at the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center have just released newpredictions for the 2002 Leonid meteor storm. Their forecast covers 58cities around the world and the International Space Station. Where's thebest place to be when the storm arrives on Nov. 19th? Read the full storyand find out.FULL STORY athttp://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm?list8692At 07:18 AM 10/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: Do u guys think novembers meteor storm will be good?thanks LUIS
[meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm Meteor Storm Forecast NASA Science News October 9, 2002 NASA scientists have just released new predictions for the 2002 Leonid meteor storm. A New Mexican desert. A graveyard in West Virginia. The International Space Station (ISS). What do these places have in common? Experts say they're good spots to watch the 2002 Leonid meteor storm, which is expected this year on Nov. 19th. We've calculated meteor rates for 58 cities around the world and for the space station, says Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space Flight Center's Space Environments Team. People who live in North America or Europe or onboard the ISS are going to see a lot of Leonids next month. Leonid meteor storms happen when Earth plows through clouds of dusty debris shed by comet 55/P Tempel-Tuttle. Right now Earth is heading for two such clouds. We'll collide with both of them on Tuesday, Nov. 19th, says Cooke. The first cloud will cause a flurry of meteors over Europe at about 0400 UT. We expect sky watchers in the countryside (away from bright city lights) to see between 500 and 1000 Leonids per hour. Earth will plow into the second cloud about six hours later (1030 UT or 5:30 a.m. EST) and cause an even bigger outburst over North America. Observers here in the United States could see as many as 2000 per hour, he predicts. Other parts of the world will be sprinkled with Leonids, too, but nothing like Europe or North America. If the predictions are correct, observers in Asia, Australia, South America and much of Africa will count no more than a few dozen bright meteors in a one-hour span. 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Predictions Click on the name of the city nearest your hometown. [sample] U.S. Cities Around the World Albuquerque,Minneapolis,Aberdeen, Mexico City, NM MN ScotlandMexico Anchorage, AK New Orleans,Amsterdam, the Moscow, Russia LA Netherlands Atlanta, GA New York, NYBangkok,Nairobi, Kenya Thailand Bangor, ME Omaha, NE Beijing, China New Delhi, India Boise, ID Philadelphia, Cairo, EgyptParis, France PA Boston, MA Phoenix, AZ Dublin, Perth, Ireland Australia Chicago, IL Portland, OREdinburgh, Reykjavik, ScotlandIceland Rio de Cleveland, OH Raleigh, NC Frankfurt, Janeiro, Germany Brazil Denver, CO Sacramento, CA Hong Kong Rome, Italy Detroit, MI Salt Lake Istanbul, Santiago, City, UTTurkey Chile Honolulu, HISeattle, WA Jakarta,São Paulo, Indonesia Brazil Houston, TX St. Louis, MO Jerusalem, Seoul, South Israel Korea Las Vegas, NV Washington, Johannesburg, Stockholm, D.C.South AfricaSweden Los Angeles,London, CA Wichita, KS England Tokyo, Japan coming soon: Miami, FL . Manila, the Canadian Philippines cities Above: Bill Cooke of the NASA/MSFC Space Environments Group prepared these city-by-city forecasts of Leonid activity in 2002. The colored curves denote predictions by three teams (Asher-McNaught, Jenniskens, Lyytinen-Van Flandern) who successfully forecast the 2001 storm. Note that the rates (vertical axis) correspond to 15-minute intervals; also, all times (horizontal axis) are local--that is, the time in the city specified. [more] Although millions of people will experience either the European outburst or the North American outburst, only three people will see both: the crew of the International Space Station. The ISS will be flying over Europe during the first outburst, explains Rob Suggs, leader of the Space Environments Team. Then it will pass over North America during the second outburst. Perfect timing! Astronauts looking out the station's windows could spot more meteors than anyone else. Meteor watching from the space station isn't like meteor watching from the ground. On Earth we look up to see shooting stars. On the ISS they look down. That's because meteoroids glow
Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
Remember that these figures are very rough. The number seen varies from person to person. They are often inaccurate. But they do give a very good idea of what to expect. Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm | Meteor Storm Forecast | NASA Science News | October 9, 2002 | | NASA scientists have just released new predictions for the 2002 Leonid | meteor storm. | | A New Mexican desert. A graveyard in West Virginia. The | International Space Station (ISS). What do these places have in common? | Experts say they're good spots to watch the 2002 Leonid meteor storm, which | is expected this year on Nov. 19th. | | We've calculated meteor rates for 58 cities around the world and for the | space station, says Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space Flight Center's Space | Environments Team. People who live in North America or Europe or onboard | the ISS are going to see a lot of Leonids next month. | | Leonid meteor storms happen when Earth plows through clouds of dusty debris | shed by comet 55/P Tempel-Tuttle. Right now Earth is heading for two such | clouds. We'll collide with both of them on Tuesday, Nov. 19th, says Cooke. | The first cloud will cause a flurry of meteors over Europe at about 0400 | UT. We expect sky watchers in the countryside (away from bright city lights) | to see between 500 and 1000 Leonids per hour. | | Earth will plow into the second cloud about six hours later (1030 UT or 5:30 | a.m. EST) and cause an even bigger outburst over North America. Observers | here in the United States could see as many as 2000 per hour, he predicts. | | Other parts of the world will be sprinkled with Leonids, too, but nothing | like Europe or North America. If the predictions are correct, observers in | Asia, Australia, South America and much of Africa will count no more than a | few dozen bright meteors in a one-hour span. | | 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Predictions |Click on the name of the city nearest your hometown. [sample] | U.S. Cities Around the World | |Albuquerque,Minneapolis,Aberdeen, Mexico City, |NM MN ScotlandMexico | |Anchorage, AK New Orleans,Amsterdam, the Moscow, Russia |LA Netherlands | |Atlanta, GA New York, NYBangkok,Nairobi, Kenya |Thailand | |Bangor, ME Omaha, NE Beijing, China New Delhi, |India | |Boise, ID Philadelphia, Cairo, EgyptParis, France |PA | |Boston, MA Phoenix, AZ Dublin, Perth, |Ireland Australia | |Chicago, IL Portland, OREdinburgh, Reykjavik, |ScotlandIceland | |Rio de |Cleveland, OH Raleigh, NC Frankfurt, Janeiro, |Germany |Brazil | |Denver, CO Sacramento, CA Hong Kong Rome, Italy | |Detroit, MI Salt Lake Istanbul, Santiago, |City, UTTurkey Chile | |Honolulu, HISeattle, WA Jakarta,São Paulo, |Indonesia Brazil | |Houston, TX St. Louis, MO Jerusalem, Seoul, South |Israel Korea | |Las Vegas, NV Washington, Johannesburg, Stockholm, |D.C.South AfricaSweden | |Los Angeles,London, |CA Wichita, KS England Tokyo, Japan | |coming soon: |Miami, FL . Manila, the Canadian |Philippines |cities | | Above: Bill Cooke of the NASA/MSFC Space Environments Group prepared these | city-by-city forecasts of Leonid activity in 2002. The colored curves denote | predictions by three teams (Asher-McNaught, Jenniskens, Lyytinen-Van | Flandern) who successfully forecast the 2001 storm. Note that the rates | (vertical axis) correspond to 15-minute intervals; also, all times | (horizontal axis) are local--that is, the time in the city specified. [more] | | Although millions of people will
Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast
I saw 300 meters at 1045-1100 UT here on the east coast. For some bizarre reason it was clear while most the east coast was rainy. There wasn't one cloud in the sky! Perfect conditions!! Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | Dear Johathan and List; | Last year...predictions high, weather so so, out to my favorite site @ | 0100 (am). I see a dozen or so in about a five minute period,some | magnificent shots, it's on the beginning of the show and . dash | the luck, Clouds...end of show, sprinkles, light rain. It was worth the | trip but besure to pray for no clouds and clear skies. | Best leonoids, | Dave Freeman | | Jonathan Gore wrote: | | Remember that these figures are very rough. The number seen varies from | person to person. They are often inaccurate. But they do give a very good | idea of what to expect. | | | Jonathan M. Gore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | - Original Message - | From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:34 AM | Subject: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | | | | http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/09oct_leonidsforecast.htm | | Meteor Storm Forecast | | NASA Science News | | October 9, 2002 | | | | NASA scientists have just released new predictions for the 2002 Leonid | | meteor storm. | | | | A New Mexican desert. A graveyard in West Virginia. The | | International Space Station (ISS). What do these places have in common? | | Experts say they're good spots to watch the 2002 Leonid meteor storm, | which | | is expected this year on Nov. 19th. | | | | We've calculated meteor rates for 58 cities around the world and for the | | space station, says Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space Flight Center's | Space | | Environments Team. People who live in North America or Europe or onboard | | the ISS are going to see a lot of Leonids next month. | | | | Leonid meteor storms happen when Earth plows through clouds of dusty | debris | | shed by comet 55/P Tempel-Tuttle. Right now Earth is heading for two such | | clouds. We'll collide with both of them on Tuesday, Nov. 19th, says | Cooke. | | The first cloud will cause a flurry of meteors over Europe at about 0400 | | UT. We expect sky watchers in the countryside (away from bright city | lights) | | to see between 500 and 1000 Leonids per hour. | | | | Earth will plow into the second cloud about six hours later (1030 UT or | 5:30 | | a.m. EST) and cause an even bigger outburst over North America. Observers | | here in the United States could see as many as 2000 per hour, he | predicts. | | | | Other parts of the world will be sprinkled with Leonids, too, but nothing | | like Europe or North America. If the predictions are correct, observers in | | Asia, Australia, South America and much of Africa will count no more than | a | | few dozen bright meteors in a one-hour span. | | | | 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Predictions | |Click on the name of the city nearest your hometown. [sample] | | U.S. Cities Around the World | | | |Albuquerque,Minneapolis,Aberdeen, Mexico City, | |NM MN ScotlandMexico | | | |Anchorage, AK New Orleans,Amsterdam, the Moscow, Russia | |LA Netherlands | | | |Atlanta, GA New York, NYBangkok,Nairobi, Kenya | |Thailand | | | |Bangor, ME Omaha, NE Beijing, China New Delhi, | |India | | | |Boise, ID Philadelphia, Cairo, EgyptParis, France | |PA | | | |Boston, MA Phoenix, AZ Dublin, Perth, | |Ireland Australia | | | |Chicago, IL Portland, OREdinburgh, Reykjavik, | |ScotlandIceland | | | |Rio de | |Cleveland, OH Raleigh, NC Frankfurt, Janeiro, | |Germany | |Brazil | | | |Denver, CO Sacramento, CA Hong Kong Rome, Italy | | | |Detroit, MI Salt Lake Istanbul, Santiago, | |City, UTTurkey Chile | | | |Honolulu, HISeattle, WA Jakarta,São Paulo, | |Indonesia
[meteorite-list] help with list?
Hello List, I posted a test intitled Test 5:47 which i posted at 5:47 pm on the 9th, yesterday, and I recieved the post at 9:30 pm today the 10th. Is this a List or Hotmail thing? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test 12:41 PM 10-10-2002
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[meteorite-list] TEST 12:44 PM 10-10-2002
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Re: [meteorite-list] help with list?
Tom, All posts to the List can vary in their delivery time depending on several factors including your ISP and routing stations. I am curious about one thing though - how did you receive your at 9:30PM today (10-10-02) when it's still AM here in the USA? John At 09:36 AM 10/10/02 -0700, Tom / james Knudson wrote: Hello List, I posted a test intitled Test 5:47 which i posted at 5:47 pm on the 9th, yesterday, and I recieved the post at 9:30 pm today the 10th. Is this a List or Hotmail thing? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] help with list?
You are right. But I think he has a slow ISP, which doesn't help anything. Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam To: Tom / james Knudson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] help with list? Tom, All posts to the List can vary in their delivery time depending on several factors including your ISP and routing stations. I am curious about one thing though - how did you receive your at 9:30PM today (10-10-02) when it's still AM here in the USA? John At 09:36 AM 10/10/02 -0700, Tom / james Knudson wrote: Hello List, I posted a test intitled Test 5:47 which i posted at 5:47 pm on the 9th, yesterday, and I recieved the post at 9:30 pm today the 10th. Is this a List or Hotmail thing? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Allende
- Original Message - From: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Allende Are there any amino acids in Allende? Jonathan Gore Yes, but only a few. Murchison is a far richer mix of organics __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientists Fired Up To Find Meteors That Flew Over Colorado
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E911838%257E,00.html Scientists all fired up to find meteors that flew over state By George Merritt The Denver Post October 9, 2002 Scientists hope to find the remnants of two meteors that lit up the evening sky on Sunday and Monday. Officials at the Denver Museum of Nature Science were abuzz Tuesday, calling two fireballs coming to Earth on consecutive days, at nearly the same time of day, very, very unusual. They carry quite a lesson on the history of our solar system, said Dr. Jack Murphy, the geology curator at the museum. And they come to us for free. We don't have to go up in a spaceship. Scientists can test the composition of a meteor to find its origin. Murphy said meteors usually are small pieces of the moon, Mars or the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. Murphy said the actual pieces of the meteors could be very small and possibly buried in the ground from impact, but he is hopeful someone witnessed one hit the ground. To that end, Murphy and his colleagues are triangulating witness reports to keep the search for the space rocks less like a needle in a haystack. They have narrowed the search for Sunday's meteor to the region around Rio Blanco in the western part of the state. The search area is still massive and remote, so Murphy is banking on someone having seen it hit. We hope that one hit somebody's barn, Murphy said. They believe Monday's meteor shot over Colorado and broke up over New Mexico. As meteors get closer to the ground, the thick air blows them into smaller pieces that compound an already difficult search. The two meteors have excited both the scientific community and bystanders around the West because of their luminosity and irregularity. Both of the fireballs put on a wild display of color, with reports of everything from green and blue to orange and red. It seemed like it could be a missile, Howard Cook said of his first glance at Monday's meteor. Cook, also a scientist at the museum, was driving home to Colorado Springs when he saw the meteor shooting from north to south over the Front Range. It was a very bright green ball of fire, Cook said. It had orange and red sparks shooting off of it. Meteors travel at such high speeds that contact with the air in Earth's atmosphere makes them so hot they flare into a magnificent light show. Cook said the bright ball appeared to be about the size of a softball held at arm's length and was visible for almost 10 seconds. Both meteors came between 7:15 and 7:25 p.m. They were not predicted, but Murphy said there is no indication that they came from a previously unknown meteor shower. Meteor showers produce little shooting stars, Murphy said. These were larger fireballs that are associated with pieces of asteroids. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Murchison
Does anybody know the names of the unidentified amino acids in Murchison? Do they even have names? Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] help with list?
Its a Hotmail stuff, once I sent 3 or more mails about the same, cuz I didnt recieve the mail in my list, and somebody told me they got a lot of mails from me, so its just Hotmail. =0) Rafael B. Torres Space Collection 2001 http://www.geocities.com/rafael_blando _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ---BeginMessage--- Hello List, I posted a test intitled Test 5:47 which i posted at 5:47 pm on the 9th, yesterday, and I recieved the post at 9:30 pm today the 10th. Is this a List or Hotmail thing? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: List attacks, Bad Boys, bad!
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: List attacks, Bad Boys, bad! on 10/9/02 7:59 PM, Rosemary Hackney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the Tucson auction?? Rosie - Hi Rosie all, I hold a yearly auction at the Tucson Show, as does Darryl Pitt. I have held mine starting 3 shows ago and Darryl for the last 2 shows. We both hold them the middle weekend of the show, 1 week before the retail show which marks the end of the show, in general. The Tucson Show began about 25 or 30 years ago, with dealers opening their doors to the public and selling wholesale several days before the retail show. That generated so much business that in a few years, dealers were coming a week early and doing more business selling before the show than at the show - soon, many dealers came ONLY for the wholesale show, and it stretched to 2 weeks prior to the retail show and became the largest gem and mineral show in the world. Now, it is not possible to spend 8 hrs a day for 2 weeks and see all the rooms. Dozens upon dozens of motels are filled with 200 to 500 rooms of dealers. It is spectacular - and overwhelming. Bob Haag, Al Lang, Edwin Thompson, Blaine Reed and a few others started selling meteorites at the show over a dozen years ago many dealers have since been added to that list. You also get some Australian Russian and other mineral dealers that carry meteorites in addition to minerals and/or fossils. Most, but by no means all, the meteorite dealers are at the Inn Suites. Darryl has held his 2 auctions poolside at 10 AM on Sunday and I have held my 3 auctions at the Jr. Chamber of Commerce building, about 2 or 3 miles from there, on Fri or Sat evening. Darryl's auction is called The Macovich Auction (after a WWII buddy of Darryl's father) and tends to offer specimens of value from a couple hundred dollars to many thousands of dollars. Some of the very best quality and visually exciting material to be found, not only at the Tucson Show, but in the world are offered at Darryl's auction. My auction, sometimes called The People's Auction or at other times called The Michael Blood Auction, offers the opportunity to anyone to sell stuff they have upgraded in their collection, dealers sometimes offer a range of stuff with no minimum bid, dealers who on the spur of the moment decide to put that one really killer piece up for grabs, even though it is a $3K to $35K piece...last minute entry, etc. It gives buyers the chance to get stuff at prices from under $10 to some really valuable material - either for private collection or for resale. There are always numerous items sold for under $10 and I have sold many items between $3K and $4K - the highest being a fabulous slice of Lake Murry for $7,600 bought by +. Of course, there are all kinds of specimens between $10 and $1,000, as well. Just about everyone into meteorites at the show comes, and it is a party atmosphere, with beer and laughs and a lot of good times. So, the Tucson Auction is a title that is a little misleading, as there are two auctions in Tucson. Best wishes, Michael
[meteorite-list] Tucson Auction
Title: Tucson Auction Sorry, Previous post (below) should have had Tucson Auction in the Subject box - I was replying to Rosie's post which had the other title, which, in this context, was misleading and may have caused numerous list members to hit thedelete button out of understandable disinterest. Best wishes, Michael on 10/10/02 1:09 PM, Michael L Blood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/9/02 7:59 PM, Rosemary Hackney at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the Tucson auction?? Rosie - Hi Rosie all, I hold a yearly auction at the Tucson Show, as does Darryl Pitt. I have held mine starting 3 shows ago and Darryl for the last 2 shows. We both hold them the middle weekend of the show, 1 week before the retail show which marks the end of the show, in general. The Tucson Show began about 25 or 30 years ago, with dealers opening their doors to the public and selling wholesale several days before the retail show. That generated so much business that in a few years, dealers were coming a week early and doing more business selling before the show than at the show - soon, many dealers came ONLY for the wholesale show, and it stretched to 2 weeks prior to the retail show and became the largest gem and mineral show in the world. Now, it is not possible to spend 8 hrs a day for 2 weeks and see all the rooms. Dozens upon dozens of motels are filled with 200 to 500 rooms of dealers. It is spectacular - and overwhelming. Bob Haag, Al Lang, Edwin Thompson, Blaine Reed and a few others started selling meteorites at the show over a dozen years ago many dealers have since been added to that list. You also get some Australian Russian and other mineral dealers that carry meteorites in addition to minerals and/or fossils. Most, but by no means all, the meteorite dealers are at the Inn Suites. Darryl has held his 2 auctions poolside at 10 AM on Sunday and I have held my 3 auctions at the Jr. Chamber of Commerce building, about 2 or 3 miles from there, on Fri or Sat evening. Darryl's auction is called The Macovich Auction (after a WWII buddy of Darryl's father) and tends to offer specimens of value from a couple hundred dollars to many thousands of dollars. Some of the very best quality and visually exciting material to be found, not only at the Tucson Show, but in the world are offered at Darryl's auction. My auction, sometimes called The People's Auction or at other times called The Michael Blood Auction, offers the opportunity to anyone to sell stuff they have upgraded in their collection, dealers sometimes offer a range of stuff with no minimum bid, dealers who on the spur of the moment decide to put that one really killer piece up for grabs, even though it is a $3K to $35K piece...last minute entry, etc. It gives buyers the chance to get stuff at prices from under $10 to some really valuable material - either for private collection or for resale. There are always numerous items sold for under $10 and I have sold many items between $3K and $4K - the highest being a fabulous slice of Lake Murry for $7,600 bought by +. Of course, there are all kinds of specimens between $10 and $1,000, as well. Just about everyone into meteorites at the show comes, and it is a party atmosphere, with beer and laughs and a lot of good times. So, the Tucson Auction is a title that is a little misleading, as there are two auctions in Tucson. Best wishes, Michael What can you say about a society that says that God is dead and Elvis is alive? Irv Kupcinet -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/jFYolB/TM -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
[meteorite-list] Murchison Amino Acids
Jonathan inquired: Does anybody know the names of the unidentified amino acids in Murchison? Do they even have names? Hello Jonathan and List, Just in case you wonder why nobody has responded yet. I think this is due to an unwritten law that we should not poach in someone else's game preserve :-) The undisputed expert in this field has always been Greg Shanos, so I guess everyone is waiting for him to chime in. Yoohoo, Greg, where are yoo? Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information Request
Hi I received this message.. can anyone help this guy? Rosie - Original Message - From: Umar Abbas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Meteorite information Request Hello, Please permit me to introduce myself to you. I am Mr. Umar Abbas, the executive Director of A.G. NISAMA LIMITED. A rough gemstone supplying industry. I will like to have more information regarding Nigerian meteorites. I have come across several individuals that are in possession of the stone called meteorite, which is referred over here as thunder stone. I will like to know the real fact about this stone. I trade primarily in gemstones, but I wouldnt mind if I could find my way through the meteorite business. I received several enquiries regarding this stone, most especially the Hadeja meteorite, but being a novice in the field; I find it difficult to give them the correct information. My problems here is: how to identify the real meteorite, and where would I get a buyer. I will also like to know if meteorites have other names apart the categorical name Meteorite If the answer to the above is yes, then does one class of meteorite have more value than the other? When and where can a meteorite be found? I will be very grateful if I can find someone who can guide me through, I will also create a page in my website www.agnisama.com for the meteorite. My interest in becoming a meteorite collector is always in the high side. Your early response would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your kind assistance and co-operation. Sincere regards Umar Abbas A.G. NISAMA LIMITED #J9B. Behind Filing Ball Clinic, Nass. Gwong, P.O. Box 3111, Jos, Plateau State. Nigeria. Phone : 234-73-458200 Mobile: 234-803-3173746 234-804-4109943 Fax: 1-2484846715 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.agnisama.com/ Your #1 African Rough Gems Supplier Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
[meteorite-list] New Iron Meteorite From Colorado
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/den/entertainment/stories/technology-171378 020021010-141011.html === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA FAX: 303-763-6917 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Murchison Amino Acids
Dear Johnathan, Bernd and List: Jonathan inquired: Does anybody know the names of the unidentified amino acids in Murchison? Do they even have names? Hello Jonathan and List, Just in case you wonder why nobody has responded yet. I think this is due to an "unwritten law" that we should not poach in someone else's game preserve :-) The undisputed expert in this field has always been Greg Shanos, so I guess everyone is waiting for him to chime in. Yoohoo, Greg, where are yoo? Bernd Greg Shanos replies: Bernd, thank you very much for the compliment. I have scanned and made .pdf files of all my articles on Allende and Murchison published in Meteorite! The following emails with attachments contain these articles for your reading pleasure. They are safe to download, tested and virus free. I you have any furthur questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Sincerely Greg Shanos Sarasota, Florida USA
Re: [meteorite-list] list shut down
LOL Luis... They won't shut the list down ((hugs)). The two bull elephants will get over it. Rosie - Original Message - From: Luis Villafane To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] list shut down u should susped the guy or kick him off dont shut the whole list down thanks luis
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information Request
Rosemary and All, I got the same letter and sent a brief crash course on meteorites.(emphasis on classifying) I received no reply. If he is sending it out to everyone then he may be trying to set up a scam. Best, Ken Rosemary Hackney wrote: Hi I received this message.. can anyone help this guy?Rosie - Original Message - From: Umar Abbas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:46 AMSubject: Meteorite information Request Hello, Please permit me to introduce myself to you. I am Mr. Umar Abbas, the executive Director of A.G. NISAMA LIMITED. A rough gemstone supplying industry. I will like to have more information regarding Nigerian meteorites. I have come across several individuals that are in possession of the stone called meteorite, which is referred over here as thunder stone. I will like to know the real fact about this stone. I trade primarily in gemstones, but I wouldnt mind if I could find my way through the meteorite business. I received several enquiries regarding this stone, most especially the Hadeja meteorite, but being a novice in the field; I find it difficult to give them the correct information. My problems here is: how to identify the real meteorite, and where would I get a buyer. I will also like to know if meteorites have other names apart the categorical name Meteorite If the answer to the above is yes, then does one class of meteorite have more value than the other? When and where can a meteorite be found? I will be very grateful if I can find someone who can guide me through, I will also create a page in my website www.agnisama.com for the meteorite. My interest in becoming a meteorite collector is always in the high side. Your early response would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your kind assistance and co-operation. Sincere regards Umar Abbas A.G. NISAMA LIMITED#J9B. Behind Filing Ball Clinic,Nass. Gwong, P.O. Box 3111, Jos,Plateau State.Nigeria.Phone : 234-73-458200Mobile: 234-803-3173746 234-804-4109943Fax: 1-2484846715E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: http://www.agnisama.com/ Your #1 African Rough Gems Supplier Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information Request
I received the letter also. Jonathan M. Gore[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan To: magellon ; Rosemary Hackney ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information Request Agreed. Same here. Buyer beware? Matt -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of magellonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:06 PMTo: Rosemary Hackney; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information RequestRosemary and All, I got the same letter and sent a brief crash course on meteorites.(emphasis on classifying) I received no reply. If he is sending it out to everyone then he may be trying to set up a scam. Best, Ken Rosemary Hackney wrote: Hi I received this message.. can anyone help this guy?Rosie - Original Message - From: Umar AbbasTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:46 AMSubject: Meteorite information RequestHello, Please permit me to introduce myself to you. I am Mr. Umar Abbas, the executive Director of A.G. NISAMA LIMITED. A rough gemstone supplying industry. I will like to have more information regarding Nigerian meteorites. I have come across several individuals that are in possession of the stone called meteorite, which is referred over here as thunder stone. I will like to know the real fact about this stone. I trade primarily in gemstones, but I wouldnt mind if I could find my way through the meteorite business. I received several enquiries regarding this stone, most especially the Hadeja meteorite, but being a novice in the field; I find it difficult to give them the correct information. My problems here is: how to identify the real meteorite, and where would I get a buyer. I will also like to know if meteorites have other names apart the categorical name Meteorite If the answer to the above is yes, then does one class of meteorite have more value than the other? When and where can a meteorite be found? I will be very grateful if I can find someone who can guide me through, I will also create a page in my website www.agnisama.com for the meteorite. My interest in becoming a meteorite collector is always in the high side. Your early response would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your kind assistance and co-operation. Sincere regards Umar Abbas A.G. NISAMA LIMITED#J9B. Behind Filing Ball Clinic,Nass. Gwong, P.O. Box 3111, Jos,Plateau State.Nigeria.Phone : 234-73-458200Mobile: 234-803-3173746 234-804-4109943Fax: 1-2484846715E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: http://www.agnisama.com/ Your #1 African Rough Gems Supplier Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 04-19-1906 Cemetery Meteorite
New York Time New York City, New York Thursday, April 19, 1906 Page: 10 FOUND METEOR FRAGMENT Cemetery Workman Digs Up One Buried for Twelve Years Special to The New York Times RAHWAY, N.J., April 18. - John Godfray, in excavating for a monument today in Hazlewood Cemetery, dug up a meteor fragment weighing 25 pounds. It seemed to be composed of fused minerals, glass, stone and steel. There is a mixture of vari-colored stones intermingled through the otherwise gray mass. Tweleve years ago Keron Kiernan, keeper of the cemetary, while at work one afternoon, heard a whistle, like escaping steam, coming through the clouds overhead. Then came a bright light, an oder of sulpher filled the air, and about fifty feet from where he stood a missile buried itself in the ground scorching the grass about and melting the gravel where it fell. The opening showed the object to have buried twelve feet deep. Since then it has gradually worked to the surface.
RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information Request
Ken, I got this also. It has the smell of the infamous Nigerian financial scam letter that still haunts us all from time to time. BUYER BEWARE. All the best, Greg RedfernIMCA #5781www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of magellonSent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:06 PMTo: Rosemary Hackney; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information RequestRosemary and All, I got the same letter and sent a brief crash course on meteorites.(emphasis on classifying) I received no reply. If he is sending it out to everyone then he may be trying to set up a scam. Best, Ken Rosemary Hackney wrote: Hi I received this message.. can anyone help this guy?Rosie - Original Message - From: Umar AbbasTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:46 AMSubject: Meteorite information RequestHello, Please permit me to introduce myself to you. I am Mr. Umar Abbas, the executive Director of A.G. NISAMA LIMITED. A rough gemstone supplying industry. I will like to have more information regarding Nigerian meteorites. I have come across several individuals that are in possession of the stone called meteorite, which is referred over here as thunder stone. I will like to know the real fact about this stone. I trade primarily in gemstones, but I wouldnt mind if I could find my way through the meteorite business. I received several enquiries regarding this stone, most especially the Hadeja meteorite, but being a novice in the field; I find it difficult to give them the correct information. My problems here is: how to identify the real meteorite, and where would I get a buyer. I will also like to know if meteorites have other names apart the categorical name Meteorite If the answer to the above is yes, then does one class of meteorite have more value than the other? When and where can a meteorite be found? I will be very grateful if I can find someone who can guide me through, I will also create a page in my website www.agnisama.com for the meteorite. My interest in becoming a meteorite collector is always in the high side. Your early response would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your kind assistance and co-operation. Sincere regards Umar Abbas A.G. NISAMA LIMITED#J9B. Behind Filing Ball Clinic,Nass. Gwong, P.O. Box 3111, Jos,Plateau State.Nigeria.Phone : 234-73-458200Mobile: 234-803-3173746 234-804-4109943Fax: 1-2484846715E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: http://www.agnisama.com/ Your #1 African Rough Gems Supplier Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
Re: [meteorite-list] list shut down
Rosie et al. There is no fight, just an attack by Dean Bessey. I merely stated that his attack was unwarrented, and left it at that. It seems that other list members are trying to keep it going? Is some other fight occuring that I missed? Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Rosemary Hackney To: Luis Villafane ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] list shut down LOL Luis... They won't shut the list down ((hugs)). The two bull elephants will get over it. Rosie - Original Message - From: Luis Villafane To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] list shut down u should susped the guy or kick him off dont shut the whole list down thanks luis
[meteorite-list] Forget about it!
Will you-all please forget about that! Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Virus
Sounds to me like you got a bad one! There has got to be some way to fix this. If I just knew what it was doing. They ought to lock them virus people up!! Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Steven Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | Hi, System restore does not work, I have reinstalled Norton countless | times today and it will not work, Norton can't find the virus definitions | upon start up, I called Symantec they said that the registry info has been | compromised.Scan disk finds no errors either. |It seems everything else works just fine, But without a virus scanner and | it missed this one anyway... I have tried to fix this for | 2 days now , I am pretty mad at this point, Damn people have nothing better | to do except screw with everybodys computers.I really have no Idea what | to do at this point ? Steven | - Original Message - | From: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Steven Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:59 PM | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | I'm sorry you got the virus. This sounds like one of those virus that | attacks the virus program along with other files. I manually removed my | virus, I don't how good you are at programming, but that is what I would | suggest. But I guess that doesn't help now. Does your computer has a | system | restore point? That is probably what it will take to fix it now. Or maybe | you need to reinstall Norton. Have you tried restarting your computer? | What | does Norton say when you try to run it? Let me know because a computer | with | virus protection is like a human with an immune system. Don't these people | who make virus have something better to do? | | | Jonathan M. Gore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | | | | | | | | | | | | Jonathan M. Gore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | - Original Message - | From: Steven Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:51 PM | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | | Hi Jonathan,Please tell me what you had to do when your system was | | sending out all those emails to fix it, There was a virus in them and | it | | got into my computes , I have removed this virus but I am having trouble | | with trying to get Norton running again, It has done something that will | not | | allow me to run my virus program. The virus name is Js.Gigger.a I | found | | the tool in symantic website and removed the virus.Any Help ? | | Regards, Steven Drummond | | - Original Message - | | From: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:15 AM | | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | | | | I saw 300 meters at 1045-1100 UT here on the east coast. For some | bizarre | | reason it was clear while most the east coast was rainy. There wasn't | one | | cloud in the sky! Perfect conditions!! | | | | | | Jonathan M. Gore | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | | - Original Message - | | From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:01 PM | | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | | | | | Dear Johathan and List; | | | Last year...predictions high, weather so so, out to my favorite site | @ | | | 0100 (am). I see a dozen or so in about a five minute period,some | | | magnificent shots, it's on the beginning of the show and . | dash | | | the luck, Clouds...end of show, sprinkles, light rain. It was worth | the | | | trip but besure to pray for no clouds and clear skies. | | | Best leonoids, | | | Dave Freeman | | | | | | Jonathan Gore wrote: | | | | | | Remember that these figures are very rough. The number seen varies | from | | | person to person. They are often inaccurate. But they do give a | very | | good | | | idea of what to expect. | | | | | | | | | Jonathan M. Gore | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | | | - Original Message - | | | From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:34 AM | | | Subject: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | | | | | | | | | |
Re: [meteorite-list] New Iron Meteorite From Colorado
COOL! Nice find. Not sure they will get rich though. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Iron Meteorite From Colorado http://www.thedenverchannel.com/den/entertainment/stories/technology-171378 020021010-141011.html === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA FAX: 303-763-6917 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: [meteorite-list]Norton behide the Virus
I have outlook express and I get about 5 emails a day with virus. I get them every way you can think of. I'm getting these one emails Undeliverable mail. As far as I can see it looks like I'm sending them and then they come back to me saying that it couldn't be sent, with the virus. Then to top it off you can't email them back to give them a few words. Norton has to behind this, who else is making out. Norton paying these guys to this. If they were just sending here and there I could understand, but this is a full time job. Who's getting rich. The more computers they can infect the more money they make. Norton is a growing company, are they just going to sit there and hope some lunatics send out viruses. What if they stopped sending viruses, then Norton would go out of business. Are they going to sit there and wait to go out of business? I don't think so. I've seen fad come and go and they usually go, but this fad just keeps getting bigger. You can bank on it, there behind this. Also its always a virus Norton can fix. Been hit with a meteorite and lived. Kim - Original Message - From: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Virus Sounds to me like you got a bad one! There has got to be some way to fix this. If I just knew what it was doing. They ought to lock them virus people up!! Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Steven Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | Hi, System restore does not work, I have reinstalled Norton countless | times today and it will not work, Norton can't find the virus definitions | upon start up, I called Symantec they said that the registry info has been | compromised.Scan disk finds no errors either. |It seems everything else works just fine, But without a virus scanner and | it missed this one anyway... I have tried to fix this for | 2 days now , I am pretty mad at this point, Damn people have nothing better | to do except screw with everybodys computers.I really have no Idea what | to do at this point ? Steven | - Original Message - | From: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Steven Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:59 PM | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | I'm sorry you got the virus. This sounds like one of those virus that | attacks the virus program along with other files. I manually removed my | virus, I don't how good you are at programming, but that is what I would | suggest. But I guess that doesn't help now. Does your computer has a | system | restore point? That is probably what it will take to fix it now. Or maybe | you need to reinstall Norton. Have you tried restarting your computer? | What | does Norton say when you try to run it? Let me know because a computer | with | virus protection is like a human with an immune system. Don't these people | who make virus have something better to do? | | | Jonathan M. Gore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | | | | | | | | | | | | Jonathan M. Gore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | - Original Message - | From: Steven Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:51 PM | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | | Hi Jonathan,Please tell me what you had to do when your system was | | sending out all those emails to fix it, There was a virus in them and | it | | got into my computes , I have removed this virus but I am having trouble | | with trying to get Norton running again, It has done something that will | not | | allow me to run my virus program. The virus name is Js.Gigger.a I | found | | the tool in symantic website and removed the virus.Any Help ? | | Regards, Steven Drummond | | - Original Message - | | From: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:15 AM | | Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2002 Leonid Meteor Storm Forecast | | | | | | I saw 300 meters at 1045-1100 UT here on the east coast. For some | bizarre | | reason it was clear while most the east coast was rainy. There wasn't | one | | cloud in the sky! Perfect conditions!! | | | | | | Jonathan M. Gore | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | | - Original Message - | | From: David Freeman
[meteorite-list] Virus
You can't always go by what anti-virus says. Virus can be very smart little programs. I would disconnect now if I were you!! And could you tell me what it is once you get it fixed? Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite presentations (sorry if it's long!)
Hello list. It's very active today, I like that. Last night I gave a meteorite presentation at the San Diego Lapidary Society. It most certainly was not the first presentation I've ever given in front of people, but it was the first one about meteorites. Their general meeting was called to order at 7pm, and they went about their business. You know, Robert Rules of order kind of stuff, and a raffle. It was quite pleasant actually. Most of the membership is quite a bit older than myself and my girlfriend. One kind older gentleman came over and told me great stories about the meteorites he's found. Other members came up to me with three different rocks and asked if they were meteorites, unfortunately they were not and I had to be the one to break the bad news. I finally got to speak around 8:15pm and was quite nervous. I made up a packet of text that I wrote with graphics, images, and other statistics and passed them out. I also brought about 50 specimens to show aroundand somemoldavites and tektites. I really was geared up to give a really great talk, I had already visualized it in my head. So I introduced myself, and quickly warned them that:" I have a tendency to go off on tangents and never come back. Oh, and I'm longwinded at times, so I'll be sticking to the script" So I was very nervous all of a sudden and started to stammer and forget the words and had to begin reading. I told them about the beginnings of the solar system, accretion, asteroids, oxygen isotopes, fall statistics, identifying meteorites, classification with actual samples of each class, chemical make -up, Prospects for life elsewhere (alh84001, murchison, Allende,etc.), then I told them about the new large object that was just announced on Monday. Wow was I imparting the goods on these people. Then I looked up and people were nodding off, the people in the back had already snuck out. I had been talking for about 45 minutes. I could feel that hollow pit in my stomach becoming an abysmal void and I was getting sucked down. I could feel the beads of sweat forming on my bald head, my girlfriend was staring right at me. I wrapped in up quickly, and asked if there were questions. The few people who hadn't snuck out already had plenty of questions, and some were quite tricky. One woman right up front told me about her grandfather getting his haystack burnt down by a meteor. I didn't know what to say. I blurted out "Really, how interesting!" It doesn't quite seem possible to me, but I couldn't tell her that. I think it was well past there bed time, because after I ended the talk they politely clapped and got the hell out of there. I knew as soon as I sat down in the car what had gone wrong. I'm very hard on myself, very critical. My girlfriend told me what a great job I did, which is nice and I think she was trying to be nice. If you are this far down into this diatribe you've probably already got me pegged. I'm a nervous talker, and I'm longwinded. Strike one. I hadn't pictured the right audience in my pre-visualization. Strike two. I had mistaken a meteorite talk with a meteorite lecture. Strike three. When I was falling asleep last night I couldn't help thinking that I could know so much more on the topic. I now realize that all that information is notthe important thing. The important thing is thatyou are entertaining the audience and creating an experience that they will remember. If your lucky they will learn something. I'm going to try and keep those things in mind next time. I'll try to be moreshow and less tell. Hopefully others of you have had these types of experiences and would share them. Maybe some of you can offer some tips, or criticisms. Perhaps some of you will tell me to please not write long emails and send them to this list. Anyway, I hope sharing was a good idea.- Edward Edward R. Hodges www.meteoriteonline.com IMCA # 4173
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite presentations (sorry if it's long!)
Edward, dont worry, I always feel that way and people always tell me that they liked the presentation. You will never please everyone, but when you get that one person who gets interested in meteorites with your talk, then it was all worthwhile. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Edward R. Hodges To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite presentations (sorry if it's long!) Hello list. It's very active today, I like that. Last night I gave a meteorite presentation at the San Diego Lapidary Society. It most certainly was not the first presentation I've ever given in front of people, but it was the first one about meteorites. Their general meeting was called to order at 7pm, and they went about their business. You know, Robert Rules of order kind of stuff, and a raffle. It was quite pleasant actually. Most of the membership is quite a bit older than myself and my girlfriend. One kind older gentleman came over and told me great stories about the meteorites he's found. Other members came up to me with three different rocks and asked if they were meteorites, unfortunately they were not and I had to be the one to break the bad news. I finally got to speak around 8:15pm and was quite nervous. I made up a packet of text that I wrote with graphics, images, and other statistics and passed them out. I also brought about 50 specimens to show aroundand somemoldavites and tektites. I really was geared up to give a really great talk, I had already visualized it in my head. So I introduced myself, and quickly warned them that:" I have a tendency to go off on tangents and never come back. Oh, and I'm longwinded at times, so I'll be sticking to the script" So I was very nervous all of a sudden and started to stammer and forget the words and had to begin reading. I told them about the beginnings of the solar system, accretion, asteroids, oxygen isotopes, fall statistics, identifying meteorites, classification with actual samples of each class, chemical make -up, Prospects for life elsewhere (alh84001, murchison, Allende,etc.), then I told them about the new large object that was just announced on Monday. Wow was I imparting the goods on these people. Then I looked up and people were nodding off, the people in the back had already snuck out. I had been talking for about 45 minutes. I could feel that hollow pit in my stomach becoming an abysmal void and I was getting sucked down. I could feel the beads of sweat forming on my bald head, my girlfriend was staring right at me. I wrapped in up quickly, and asked if there were questions. The few people who hadn't snuck out already had plenty of questions, and some were quite tricky. One woman right up front told me about her grandfather getting his haystack burnt down by a meteor. I didn't know what to say. I blurted out "Really, how interesting!" It doesn't quite seem possible to me, but I couldn't tell her that. I think it was well past there bed time, because after I ended the talk they politely clapped and got the hell out of there. I knew as soon as I sat down in the car what had gone wrong. I'm very hard on myself, very critical. My girlfriend told me what a great job I did, which is nice and I think she was trying to be nice. If you are this far down into this diatribe you've probably already got me pegged. I'm a nervous talker, and I'm longwinded. Strike one. I hadn't pictured the right audience in my pre-visualization. Strike two. I had mistaken a meteorite talk with a meteorite lecture. Strike three. When I was falling asleep last night I couldn't help thinking that I could know so much more on the topic. I now realize that all that information is notthe important thing. The important thing is thatyou are entertaining the audience and creating an experience that they will remember. If your lucky they will learn something. I'm going to try and keep those things in mind next time. I'll try to be moreshow and less tell. Hopefully others of you have had these types of experiences and would share them. Maybe some of you can offer some tips, or criticisms. Perhaps some of you will tell me to please not write long emails and send them to this list. Anyway, I hope sharing was a good idea.- Edward Edward R. Hodges www.meteoriteonline.com IMCA # 4173
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite information Request
In a message dated 10/10/2002 8:06:48 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rosemary and All, I got the same letter and sent a brief crash course on meteorites.(emphasis on classifying) I received no reply. If he is sending it out to everyone then he may be trying to set up a scam. Best, Ken I received it too. Do you suppose he has subscribed to the List? Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Virus
It sounds like the Klez virus. Norton's or McAfee's sites will tell you step-by-step how to remove it. Also, the Bugbear worm is making the rounds too. The Klez disables your anti-virus and won't let you reinstall your anti-virus either...until you disable the worm. This means deleting a file or two and deleting a couple of registry entries. Jonathan Gore wrote: You can't always go by what anti-virus says. Virus can be very smart little programs. I would disconnect now if I were you!! And could you tell me what it is once you get it fixed? Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Virus
I think his case is more complex than that. Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Dave Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Virus | It sounds like the Klez virus. Norton's or McAfee's sites will tell you | step-by-step how to remove it. Also, the Bugbear worm is making the rounds | too. The Klez disables your anti-virus and won't let you reinstall your | anti-virus either...until you disable the worm. This means deleting a file or | two and deleting a couple of registry entries. | | Jonathan Gore wrote: | | You can't always go by what anti-virus says. Virus can be very smart little | programs. I would disconnect now if I were you!! And could you tell me what | it is once you get it fixed? | | Jonathan M. Gore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | | __ | Meteorite-list mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list | | __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Virus
And why do you say that? Jonathan Gore wrote: I think his case is more complex than that. Jonathan M. Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein - Original Message - From: Dave Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jonathan Gore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Virus | It sounds like the Klez virus. Norton's or McAfee's sites will tell you | step-by-step how to remove it. Also, the Bugbear worm is making the rounds | too. The Klez disables your anti-virus and won't let you reinstall your | anti-virus either...until you disable the worm. This means deleting a file or | two and deleting a couple of registry entries. | | Jonathan Gore wrote: | | You can't always go by what anti-virus says. Virus can be very smart little | programs. I would disconnect now if I were you!! And could you tell me what | it is once you get it fixed? | | Jonathan M. Gore | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The Wonderful Wolfgang Mozart Albert Einstein | | __ | Meteorite-list mailing list | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list | | __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite presentations (sorry if it's long!)
Hi Ed, Very nice of you to share how hard it went. All of us on the list appreciate your honesty and no doubt many of us have been there. It's natural when you're so enthusiastic and knowledgeable to go on about a topic. I can relate. I teach community education astronomy and over the years have learned that the fewer concepts introduced, the better. I usually give my presentation with slides and keep it to about 25 slides maximum (1 hour class time). I also try to invite the audience to participate like asking them easy questions that help lead them into the subject. Humor is the best thing. A few jokes here and there keep everyone awake and alert. Still I've gone on too long or gotten into obscure areas and regretted it. It's something I wrestle with all the time as I attempt to get better at the craft. Heck, I've been teaching over a dozen years and if there's one thing I keep telling myself it to simplify, simplify, simplify. Having meteorites to pass around was great. It might have even be better to ask the people to come to the front of the room and handle them. That way they get off their feet, move around and tend to ask more questions. Another thing I've found useful is to walk among the audience while talking and make good eye contact as I go. Personal stories also even out the statistical aspect of things. I find people will sit up and listen if they hear a funny or curious story involving your own personal experience. It feels genuine and less didactic. Well, perhaps I've gone on too long here :-)but again, I thank you for telling the group how it went. I have no doubt that should you have more opportunities things will get easier. Bob Hello list. It's very active today, I like that. Last night I gave a meteorite presentation at the San Diego Lapidary Society. It most certainly was not the first presentation I've ever given in front of people, but it was the first one about meteorites. Their general meeting was called to order at 7pm, and they went about their business. You know, Robert Rules of order kind of stuff, and a raffle. It was quite pleasant actually. Most of the membership is quite a bit older than myself and my girlfriend. One kind older gentleman came over and told me great stories about the meteorites he's found. Other members came up to me with three different rocks and asked if they were meteorites, unfortunately they were not and I had to be the one to break the bad news. I finally got to speak around 8:15pm and was quite nervous. I made up a packet of text that I wrote with graphics, images, and other statistics and passed them out. I also brought about 50 specimens to show around and some moldavites and tektites. I really was geared up to give a really great talk, I had already visualized it in my head. So I introduced myself, and quickly warned them that: I have a tendency to go off on tangents and never come back. Oh, and I'm longwinded at times, so I'll be sticking to the script So I was very nervous all of a sudden and started to stammer and forget the words and had to begin reading. I told them about the beginnings of the solar system, accretion, asteroids, oxygen isotopes, fall statistics, identifying meteorites, classification with actual samples of each class, chemical make -up, Prospects for life elsewhere (alh84001, murchison, Allende,etc.), then I told them about the new large object that was just announced on Monday. Wow was I imparting the goods on these people. Then I looked up and people were nodding off, the people in the back had already snuck out. I had been talking for about 45 minutes. I could feel that hollow pit in my stomach becoming an abysmal void and I was getting sucked down. I could feel the beads of sweat forming on my bald head, my girlfriend was staring right at me. I wrapped in up quickly, and asked if there were questions. The few people who hadn't snuck out already had plenty of questions, and some were quite tricky. One woman right up front told me about her grandfather getting his haystack burnt down by a meteor. I didn't know what to say. I blurted out Really, how interesting! It doesn't quite seem possible to me, but I couldn't tell her that. I think it was well past there bed time, because after I ended the talk they politely clapped and got the hell out of there. I knew as soon as I sat down in the car what had gone wrong. I'm very hard on myself, very critical. My girlfriend told me what a great job I did, which is nice and I think she was trying to be nice. If you are this far down into this diatribe you've probably already got me pegged. I'm a nervous talker, and I'm longwinded. Strike one. I hadn't pictured the right audience in my pre-visualization. Strike two. I had mistaken a meteorite talk with a meteorite lecture. Strike three. When I was falling asleep last night I couldn't help thinking that I could know so much more on the topic. I now realize that all
[meteorite-list] Traveling Meteorite Mineral Displays
Hello Listees and Affectionatos, Ed's post on meteorite lectures prompted me to to pass along something I have discovered with respect to displaying ones collection in exhibits. I have been asked to set up an exhibit for local libraries and nature centers. I loathed the idea of leaving my specimens in open and loathed setting up a different arrangement at each location. I was shopping at Ames Department Stores, a chain now liquidating in the northeast, where they were selling store fixtures. They were selling off nice jewelry, turntable glass and Plexiglas tabletop cabinets (from $5-$25-$50 or so) which are well suited to traveling exhibits. They are lockable, securable, and offer space for 20-90 micro boxes. The internal turntable allows a viewer to look upon all the specimens, yet only take up a 15x15 inch footprint. The breadbox-size lockers can hold all but the largest whole meteorites. All the cases have security cables and can be discretely locked together. The Ames liquidation only has about 10 more days, but the rumor on the street is that November-January, K-Mart will be closing several stores nationally. So if you anticipate needing a traveling display --or want to put up something in your den which doesn't look like a high school shop project, keep an eye on the types of display cases they have at the jewelry counter. If one bought these new they would list for $150-$350. Regards, Elton PS: Commercial displays revolve around modular and pegboard systems not available to consumers for the most part or cheaply anyway. But if you are an organization freak--or your spouse thinks you NEED to become one, don't miss the little adjustable plastic pegboard trays/boxes they put CD's and Nintendo Game Cartridges in. They can be used at home for computer disks, sewing sundries, batteries, computer parts, ebay auction, etc. They fill a gap on the garage tool board to keep things together which you can't otherwise hang on a pegs directly-at 50 cents they are cheap!. Some of the tool pegs from the garden wares section are heavy duty enough to hang my hard hat, rock hammer, metal detector, geiger counter, bino's, camera, and UV lamp on and still leave room for a field pack. Makes me feel like a fireman-- I can be out of the house, equipped to hunt any rock in under 2 minutes! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list